What big boy talk? You made the accusation I didn't. Now prove it. Quotes from your sweetheart Milli isn't proof either.
Don't forget that just because a bunch of the folks Tri apparently rubs elbows with commit or have been convicted of wildlife violations, does not mean he should assume the same is true for anybody else.
I'm not. I'm arguing against people who get pleasure from hate and other people's loss.
Hey I didn't post up the made up 99% statistic.
-coo
I don't assume it about everyone. As special as Milli Vanilly might be you don't count as everyone no matter how self absorbed you are.
So if you and Wade are such good friends and he told you the “truth” why are you not subpoenaed?
So nothing happens to the hunters, nothing happens to the people that guide the hunters. But the guy that isn't there and sticks a cat skin in the box getting jailed is going to be a warning shot?
I never said he told me the "truth". And even if he did it's hearsay. Just two buddies talking.
It's not pleasure. It's a community aligning against those who flaunt the laws.
It's not a statistic. It's a comment generally used about the difference between criminals and law abiding citizens. Pick your number if you don't like it. I suppose you believe there are millions of felonious hunters.
Hard time getting coocoo together there Tri?
If everyone who knew something was subpoenaed to a trial, no trial would ever complete. You're supposition about knowledge shows how little you have.
Particularly when they aren't your fan because you break laws. Get out the screwdriver.
Funny, you can post about hearsay and the fact that two buddies talk. But others posting about ongoing legal proceedings (facts) is just so very wrong.
1. I know he was convicted in a court of law, that's not conjecture or gossip that's a fact.
Honest question. If they do have greater penalties, would they not be held to a higher standard and get their land removed from the paunsaugunt deer unit. In reality they are violating their own by-laws.
You repeated it and then called it into question with the obvious implication that 99% of hunters having not been charged or convicted is too high.
I'd wager the real number is greater than 99.0% of hunters have never been charged or convicted of a wildlife crime, but you clearly roll with the bottom of the barrel and seem to think everybody else does.
You're calling convictions a "loss"??
Pretty applicable to both.
work.
El torro doodoo
Haven't got a clue. But 99% isn't accurate either
Not logic
You don't know that. Milli didn't say
I'm not posting hate or negativity.
Cool. Sounds like you are done here.
You're so petty you want to argue nomenclature?You're calling convictions a "loss"??
So you think if there had been a trial any of these internet g-men would have been subpoenaed?
Do you seriously believe all the BS you conjur up?
Actually, and I’d yield to the actual lawyer in this if I’m wrong, all that is necessary from an information standpoint is simply enough to satisfy the burden of proof that lies with the state.
We don't have to "know", we weren't physically at each location as a witness.
I never told you to feel remorse.
The reality is they aren't subpoenaed because everything they are saying is classified as hearsay.
You think so.We don't have to "know", we weren't physically at each location as a witness.
No one on this thread is saying they were!
Lemme spell this out, ready?
Take notes
On three......
1.....2.....3!
"THIS THREAD IS ABOUT WLH'S CONVICTIONS AND PENDING LITIGATIONS CURRENTLY IN THE STATE RECORDS, ALL OF WHICH ARE ON PUBLIC RECORD"
So when you said:
I believe it's extremely obvious here of who the "Parasite" is in this matter, and the heavy majority of Utah hunters, non hunters and the law agree.
I'm sure Charles Beatty was as well......
It is to high.
So you think civility and gentlemanly behavior is less important than a popularity contest? Now I clearly see your problem.
I am trying to make it sound more professional than the actual action it is. Gossiping.
I'm not arguing what happens in court or the documented cases. I'm saying most of what gets put here is gossip and hearsay. You know it is.
See Vanilly, this entire post is hearsay and gossip. 3/4 of the accusations here can't be proven and aren't documented.
See Vanilly, more hearsay and gossip.
Ya so is Ted Bundy!
I think 99% is too high. I personally know a lot of people that have been ticked/charged with wildlife crimes. Most being completely unaware they had broken laws until contacted by law enforcement. But some know exactly what they are doing. Most aren’t talked about. Some are. But there’s a lot more people with wildlife crimes on their records than most of us realize.
No Tri, you've read me completely wrong here.
Bouncing all over the place. Not making sense.
Ted Bundy is dead
Actually it would be very accurate
So if you think someone else isn't behaving then no one should call you out for your behavior?
Lol....please don't try using your own tactics of cliche and hypocrisy on me Sir, you score the lowest in those departments.
Very good! See? You do know some factual information
Again, you think this is about winning and losing arguments.
Are you saying there wasn't a cat skin?
Still just my opinion though
You still dodging all that gossip and hearsay I pointed out?
I can see where you are coming from, but 1% of a very large number is still a large number. Digging into the numbers reported (which are the relevant figures when looking at "charges or convicted" as opposed to unreported/documented violations), for hunting and fishing violations is kind of interesting. In 2023, for Utah there were 4,567 wildlife citations. Pre COVID, Utah was selling about 200,000 hunting and fishing licenses annually, and that climbed up to +700,000 in 2020 and dropping to +500,000 in 2021. Assuming all of them are considered "charged or convicted" that would be a per capita citation rate of between 0.6% and 2.1%. When you look at the reported unlawful take of animals in 2019 vs COVID years, it's about a 1% increase in documented illegal take versus a +300% in licenses.
You still dodging all that gossip and hearsay I pointed out?
You're comprehensive abilities are rock bottom.Again, you think this is about winning and losing arguments.
Be very careful, he'll insinuate you are lying when you display factsTwo Southern Utah Men Sentenced in Cougar Hunting Crime in Violation of the Lacey Act
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – A U.S. District Court Judge sentenced the final defendant today in a crime that involved a Utah licensed big game outfitter and his employee/cougar hunting guide in the District of Utah. The two defendants were sentenced separately for their involvement in a crime that...www.justice.gov
Not a mention of a cat skin….hmmmm
I never brought up a skin. You did. Was that gossip?
Easy Niller!
That's not being a "gentleman" during "someone's losses"
Why would I. My whole point is not to gossip.
Slam, your bitterness is showing.Easy Niller!
That's not being a "gentleman" during "someone's losses"
Don't need to edit it. I nailed it.
And see now you are misquoting me. Right back to lying. You really don't know how to deal.
You're gobbling up that spin.
Bwahahahaha
You are posting stupidity.
The DOJ report is just "gossip"?
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