BrowningRage
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Well, there goes that tradition for my family...
Guess it isn’t about tradition…Why not go after the 7th?
Well, in truth, maybe we will. But, May 1st has been like Christmas for my family for a long time. We travel to WY, eat at one particular restaurant, stay in a hotel (most years), get up early and go lookin...Why not go after the 7th?
Don’t cry.Well, in truth, maybe we will. But, May 1st has been like Christmas for my family for a long time. We travel to WY, eat at one particular restaurant, stay in a hotel (most years), get up early and go lookin...
I've been to "our" area twice on the weekend following May 1st... have found two 2-point antlers only, and lots of boot tracks. Going a week later than residents won't produce as many antlers... ?
They also state in the statute that “collect” also means to “look for” and “locate”.I don't go so don't really care. More power to you!!
I'm struggling with the viewpoint. The state thinks they own the shed, but only if it falls in a certain area. Land owners can get a tag to harvest a state animal on their property, they don't own that animal though. How the state is claiming ownership of something, that is not living, on federal ground is a bit beyond my grasp.
Just politicians trying to stay relevant, why they make petty laws just to look important is beyond me, what a waste of taxpayers moneyI don't go so don't really care. More power to you!!
I'm struggling with the viewpoint. The state thinks they own the shed, but only if it falls in a certain area. Land owners can get a tag to harvest a state animal on their property, they don't own that animal though. How the state is claiming ownership of something, that is not living, on federal ground is a bit beyond my grasp.
Id reason to bet aside from a few gas station burritos and fuel, what all do you Non-res contribute to our economy during shed hunting? cause i know where im at, hundreds of NR trucks show up overnight or early morning, sleep in their truck, then hit the hills having brought food and drinks from their home, and then leave that afternoon. . you cant really think you contribute that much during a few days of May do you?I’d suggest calling all your businesses you frequent and explain what is happening. Like it has been stated residents don’t care, but I’m sure business owners and others who gain from out of state revenue would care. The fact they can say it’s illegal to look at wildlife is beyond me. I guess that’s the world of politics. Scratch someone’s back over here but forget about the other people who it directly affects.
I would definitely be so disappointed if I couldn't drive down to SLC and give UT my donation every year.It’s basically the same with non residents coming to Utahs hunt expo and putting in for hunts, except Utahns don’t seem to boob about non residents, maybe we should join the crybaby bandwagon that Idaho has started
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA the funny part is you're trying to be serious.And the anti-hunting organizations continue to win.
Here's another good one for ya! In Wyoming, if you aim your weapon at some critter, that can be considered "intent" by a GW and you could be cited for attempting to kill that critter!They also state in the statute that “collect” also means to “look for” and “locate”.
I’m not so sure that can be right. How can they make it illegal to look at something?
What they conveniently don't tell you is you have to buy a nr Utah hunting license. Bastages!!I would definitely be so disappointed if I couldn't drive down to SLC and give UT my donation every year.
Yeah I live about 2 miles from the Utah line so I already by a combo license there every year. They are getting plenty of money out me just in that much less my expo donations.What they conveniently don't tell you is you have to buy a nr Utah hunting license. Bastages!!
Sorry your feelings are hurt.The Idaho and Wyoming guys boobing kind of reminds me of the wnba complaining that they don’t make as much as the nba
I might prefer to move to WY... ?Don’t cry.
Just go back to Utah and get yourself a 7day resident shed hunt in Utah. Make that your new tradition.
This sounds like a good time to have a Utah vs Wyoming public land shed contest. Largest set wins.The good news about all of this is that Utah and Wyoming shed seasons open on the same day now so people from Utah don't have to travel as far to shed hunt anymore. We all know everyone down there will wait until opening day.
I didn't ask for this rule but it's definitely a nice perk of being a resident. I may help recover some of the pay cut I took to move here.
Do the Wyoming guys still need a head start? Like how they do it on Easter for little kidsThis sounds like a good time to have an Utah vs Wyoming public land shed contest. Largest set wins.
I think Utah would win that one hands down which makes it even more befuddling why someone would want to come here to pick up sheds when they have even bigger ones down there closer to home. I hate to see people like Cooper so upset but like I said their own home state opens the same day and I can assure you I wouldn't care if they blocked us for a week, month, whatever.This sounds like a good time to have a Utah vs Wyoming public land shed contest. Largest set wins.
The good news about all of this is that Utah and Wyoming shed seasons open on the same day now so people from Utah don't have to travel as far to shed hunt anymore. We all know everyone down there will wait until opening day.
I didn't ask for this rule but it's definitely a nice perk of being a resident. I may help recover some of the pay cut I took to move here.
Do the Wyoming guys still need a head start? Like how they do it on Easter for little kids
I'm in@themadness we hitting your spot?
$1000 wager?
I really wish they would ban the sale of them. I love having them around the house.Selling state property... Seems like a fineable offense!!! lol
In all seriousness if they view this as part of the animal, why is resale allowed. To my knowledge you can't sell wild game meat. Again I don't give two hoots, just find it interesting.
Just to be clear I am not in this. I go like twice a year. ?I'm in
I'm in, how bout 1000.00 entry fee?
Locating is what I got a warning for. I never walked to a shed or touched a shed and all I did was glass from the road but they still considered it illegal. My fault for not reading the rules but I assumed as long as I was just glassing from my truck on open roads I was ok. It did make the shed room a little better now framed and hung up in there?They also state in the statute that “collect” also means to “look for” and “locate”.
I’m not so sure that can be right. How can they make it illegal to look at something?
I will say that is the biggest negative I see with this when a lot of your buddies/family are NR. I mean they can join 7 days later but still I get how that part sucks.Locating is what I got a warning for. I never walked to a shed or touched a shed and all I did was glass from the road but they still considered it illegal. My fault for not reading the rules but I assumed as long as I was just glassing from my truck on open roads I was ok. It did make the shed room a little better now framed and hung up in there?
In my opinion these shed rules are dumb. I love shed hunting and so far I've never had a issue with not finding enough sheds even with non residents here. I guess I'll find more now but won't be much fun by myself without my cousin and dad being able to go.
Not okay to glass from the road to look for antlers, but looking for bucks still packing and taking pictures is just fine.Locating is what I got a warning for. I never walked to a shed or touched a shed and all I did was glass from the road but they still considered it illegal. My fault for not reading the rules but I assumed as long as I was just glassing from my truck on open roads I was ok. It did make the shed room a little better now framed and hung up in there?
In my opinion these shed rules are dumb. I love shed hunting and so far I've never had a issue with not finding enough sheds even with non residents here. I guess I'll find more now but won't be much fun by myself without my cousin and dad being able to go.
You can go walk and "hunt rabbits" all you want to. Again to me the shed laws are all messed up and just going to get worse. What's going on now is just going to open up a can of worms between all the states I think.Not okay to glass from the road to look for antlers, but looking for bucks still packing and taking pictures is just fine.
Sadly it's like most every other law, it's an attempt to get people to quit doing stupid things that aren't good for them, animals, etc. The problem is the ones already doing the dumb things usually don't care if they are breaking the law or not so they are only hurting the law-abiding citizens.You can go walk and "hunt rabbits" all you want to. Again to me the shed laws are all messed up and just going to get worse. What's going on now is just going to open up a can of worms between all the states I think.
You got a warning? Wow!! I can't see how a citation could ever hold up in court for "looking" at stuff on public lands, whether it be antlers, sagebrush or dirt. I understand the point of the rule, but sometimes these laws, that in my opinion violate ones first amendment, are too much. They just flat out go too far in trying to control people. What's next, a rule that makes it illegal to look at the deer on the winter range?Locating is what I got a warning for. I never walked to a shed or touched a shed and all I did was glass from the road but they still considered it illegal. My fault for not reading the rules but I assumed as long as I was just glassing from my truck on open roads I was ok. It did make the shed room a little better now framed and hung up in there?
In my opinion these shed rules are dumb. I love shed hunting and so far I've never had a issue with not finding enough sheds even with non residents here. I guess I'll find more now but won't be much fun by myself without my cousin and dad being able to go.
I definitely agree that there is no way in this world one should be restricted from glassing from a open public road. That is flat out ridiculous.You got a warning? Wow!! I can't see how a citation could ever hold up in court for "looking" at stuff on public lands, whether it be antlers, sagebrush or dirt. I understand the point of the rule, but sometimes these laws, that in my opinion violate ones first amendment, are too much. They just flat out go too far in trying to control people. What's next, a rule that makes it illegal to look at the deer on the winter range?
In WY you can be charged with poaching a deer without pulling the trigger. Happened to some evanston peeps awhile back.You got a warning? Wow!! I can't see how a citation could ever hold up in court for "looking" at stuff on public lands, whether it be antlers, sagebrush or dirt. I understand the point of the rule, but sometimes these laws, that in my opinion violate ones first amendment, are too much. They just flat out go too far in trying to control people. What's next, a rule that makes it illegal to look at the deer on the winter range?
Look at all the control government agencies could have if they get to make it illegal to look at things!I definitely agree that there is no way in this world one should be restricted from glassing from a open public road. That is flat out ridiculous.
The only way they could give you any kind of citation or warning is if you admitted that you were looking for antlers otherwise anyone driving down the road that looks out there is in trouble ?Look at all the control government agencies could have if they get to make it illegal to look at things!
They say "Collect means to search for, locate,...". Couldn't they also just change poaching to "Poaching means to search for, locate,...". Not a huge leap here.
I'm just venting when I see lawmakers going too far to control whatever they want. I understand a lot of people benefit from rules like this, but it sure seems like too far to me and eventually what goes around comes around.
Yeah I always find myself in the middle on these topics. I hate seeing laws made that are used to overreach but I also hate seeing the idiots out there that is forcing the need for a law to be made.Look at all the control government agencies could have if they get to make it illegal to look at things!
They say "Collect means to search for, locate,...". Couldn't they also just change poaching to "Poaching means to search for, locate,...". Not a huge leap here.
I'm just venting when I see lawmakers going too far to control whatever they want. I understand a lot of people benefit from rules like this, but it sure seems like too far to me and eventually what goes around comes around.
Thats where I screwed up I did admit to it but at the time I had no idea that I was in the wrong. The way they asked was more saying I had been out stashing them so I told them no that I had just been glassing them from my truck. I was told it's a unfair advantage for me to be doing that and that's why it's in the law that way. I asked them what the difference was with me scouting a deer in July to go shoot in Sept or October. This was a few years ago so I don't think they are adding scouting to a poaching list yet ??. That's when I was told hunting rabbits is better than me glassing from the road.The only way they could give you any kind of citation or warning is if you admitted that you were looking for antlers otherwise anyone driving down the road that looks out there is in trouble ?
I 100% agree but until they can even enforce the one they have now I don't see what adding more laws is going to do besides hurt the honest guy. And unless there's a 240" muley hanging out in a spot I have yet to see a fish and game officer on the winter range.Yeah I always find myself in the middle on these topics. I hate seeing laws made that are used to overreach but I also hate seeing the idiots out there that is forcing the need for a law to be made.
Honestly it sounds like they targeted you because you’re a ginger. I thought we got past that as a country but I guess not. Contrary to popular belief gingers do have souls.Thats where I screwed up I did admit to it but at the time I had no idea that I was in the wrong. The way they asked was more saying I had been out stashing them so I told them no that I had just been glassing them from my truck. I was told it's an unfair advantage for me to be doing that and that's why it's in the law that way. I asked them what the difference was with me scouting a deer in July to go shoot in Sept or October. This was a few years ago so I don't think they are adding scouting to a poaching list yet ??. That's when I was told hunting rabbits is better than me glassing from the road.
The problem is that if you’re honest you get in trouble. If you’re comfortable lying, you get an advantage over the honest guy who is abiding by a rule that is quite likely unconstitutional in the first place.The only way they could give you any kind of citation or warning is if you admitted that you were looking for antlers otherwise anyone driving down the road that looks out there is in trouble ?
It's true.... That must be why they never choose me for Wyoming draw tags too. Im going to propose a ginger only draw to add to all these new bills ?. on the bright side though I don't have to wear orange during the hunts ?? IHonestly it sounds like they targeted you because you’re a ginger. I thought we got past that as a country but I guess not. Contrary to popular belief gingers do have souls.
Sadly it takes common sense and decency on both sides and too many times it’s neither. And once again the few hurt the many.The problem is that if you’re honest you get in trouble. If you’re comfortable lying, you get an advantage over the honest guy who is abiding by a rule that is quite likely unconstitutional in the first place.
The honest guy ends up feeling totally screwed. Where’s that most likely going to lead?
Right there’s sooo many people going to Utah to shed hunt.So when is Utah gonna put a 1 month head start on non res shed hunters? Gotta fight fire with fire…
Heck, I see a huge money maker opportunity for dnr to collect a shed fee from non residents…
Make em pay $500.00 to compete on the Utah opener. Otherwise, wait a month and pay $100.00
After all, this is the “Divided States of America.”
Meh…Right there’s sooo many people going to Utah to shed hunt.
Why can’t you go on your Henry shed hunt?What bloodtracker said is what I think is going to start happening in every state now that this has been proposed. It's already dang near impossible for me to draw a LE deer tag in Utah now I wont be able to go on my couple day Henrys shed hunt (which is fair with what Wyoming is doing) so I'm really not complaining about it. Just sucks that its all gotten to this point.
Oh I can I just mean if they did what bloodtracker said and made you pay to shed hunt utah I probably wouldn't do it. I've only found 6 sheds off the Henry's over the years that I would consider worth paying to shed hunt ?.Why can’t you go on your Henry shed hunt?
Oh gotcha.Oh I can I just mean if they did what bloodtracker said and made you pay to shed hunt utah I probably wouldn't do it. I've only found 6 sheds off the Henry's over the years that I would consider worth paying to shed hunt ?.
I edited the other post to make more sense.
Yea I can’t imagine people from out of state wanting to go to the Henry’s or other limited entry units looking for horns. Utah should follow the same lame laws that Cryoming is proposingOh gotcha.
I’m likely wrong on this but I doubt Utah would do a resident only shed season like WY. Why? Because the problem is their residents. It would make more sense in UT to have no shed restriction for non residents and keep a shed season for residents. If you’re a NR you have till May 1 then it opens to everyone. Sounds ass backwards but that would make sense. Aside from antelope island which is already a draw how many NR really shed hunt Utah? No one knows but it’s not many.
Utards can’t even use trailcams anymore. The simply can’t have nice things. They even lost their right to bait deer because they can’t control it. One day they will probably lose rifle scopes. Sounds crazy but you never know.
I hope ID CO and NV give their residents a head start for shed hunting. Then maybe they could reach an agreement with WY and leave Utah excluded. ?
What makes the henries so special? The top end bucks get killed every year. It’s a long ass drive from WY. @Wyo_Roadhunter is the first resident of WY I’ve heard driving all that way. Likely due to him being from Utah? And his family still lives there? If you’re trying to say a handful of people driving to Utah is any comparison to the mobs that flood WY every weekend that’s laughable at best.Yea I can’t imagine people from out of state wanting to go to the Henry’s or other limited entry units looking for horns. Utah should follow the same lame laws that Cryoming is proposing
Well Cliff Clavin if you haven’t heard of it than it definitely didn’t happen ?What makes the henries so special? The top end bucks get killed every year. It’s a long ass drive from WY. @Wyo_Roadhunter is the first resident of WY I’ve heard driving all that way. Likely due to him being from Utah? And his family still lives there? If you’re trying to say a handful of people driving to Utah is any comparison to the mobs that flood WY every weekend that’s laughable at best.
Henry mountain shed trip! Sounds like f— waste of time. ??
Utah is ban happy. For focks sake they banned trail cameras. They hardly give out any non resident tags. If there were people going to Utah to shed hunt in any noticeable numbers you god damn well it would of been addressed by now.Well Cliff Clavin if you haven’t heard of it than it definitely didn’t happen ?
I give away a bunch but it doesn’t take long for 25 lbs moose antlers to become a burden. Thinking maybe instead of selling them I’ll just make a big arch sometime. Then post it on the internet and watch the utards cry.The only reason I sale sheds is cause I would have been out of room years ago!
You should dremmel/carve an outdoor scene on them and sell them for a grand each.I give away a bunch but it doesn’t take long for 25 lbs moose antlers to become a burden. Thinking maybe instead of selling them I’ll just make a big arch sometime. Then post it on the internet and watch the utards cry.
Okay, what is the issue I'm missing.?You know you’re totally disconnected with the shed “issue” if you think restricting the sale of antlers in any capacity will decrease pressure in any noticeable form.
I feel fortunate that I haven't seen bad behavior when I've been out looking... I shed hunt a sort of "2nd tier area" so most people are elsewhere on the opener... where I go gets hit after most people's first choices I'd say... maybe thats why I've avoided issues.To many people and not enough resources.
People can complain about freedom and laws but it simply comes down to that. States should provide for their residents first when there is not enough for all. After the behavior I have observed here in Wyoming recently while shed hunting I think NR’s are lucky to have any season at all.
Yes it wouldn’t change anything. Very few people out there are doing it for solely for the money. I’ve never met one and the antler buyers I stay in contact with never have either.Okay, what is the issue I'm missing.?
If a permit to buy/sell antlers cost $1000 each year, it wouldn't impact antler gathering.?
Not sure where you are seeing all this hatred from residents. It's not hatred to want to protect opportunity in your own state. And yes, a few off the wall comments stir the pot. It works both ways.I understand the frustration from the Wyoming residents. The majority of guys looking for horns are from Utah and Idaho (mostly Utah). However, I just don't get why there is so much hatred toward non-residents.
Not saying the "rule" is hatred, just the general Wyoming opinion seems to be pretty harsh toward Utah guys. Not all of us are flat brimmed little punks. Lots of us are strong contributors to wildlife projects and groups in Wyoming. We genuinely care about Mule deer in Wyoming. Just sayin.....Don't judge all of us based on a few of us. I know some awesome Wyoming guys that will always stand up for some of us "Tards", but others just seem to think all Utah guys are wieners.Not sure where you are seeing all this hatred from residents. It's not hatred to want to protect opportunity in your own state. And yes, a few off the wall comments stir the pot. It works both ways.
IMO I see more hatred from NR. I understand that some aren't happy with change, especially when that change means less for them, but we are all experience less opportunity in hunting and I doubt that trend will reverse.
Not sure where this came from based on my comments. I have friends that live in Utah. Yes, some people say things that cause discontent and it happens from both viewpoints.Don't judge all of us based on a few of us.
It wasn't based on just your comments, it was just a general thought.Not sure where this came from based on my comments. I have friends that live in Utah. Yes, some people say things that cause discontent and it happens from both viewpoints.
As far as Utah being picked on, I guess. But it certainly seems to me that during hunting season in western Wyoming, Utah is represented more than any other state. Maybe that has something to do with it. In the past I had a couple of negative encounters with NR and both were Utah guys. Had positive encounters with Utah guys too. I don't cast broad brushes on people. Never have.
Maybe you're just interpreting the frustrations for hatred?I understand the frustration from the Wyoming residents. The majority of guys looking for horns are from Utah and Idaho (mostly Utah). However, I just don't get why there is so much hatred toward non-residents. If we had some dang land in Northern Utah to Shed hunt, I would stay here all the time. However, there are very few places to run around on public land in Northern Utah and shed hunt. Wyoming has endless BLM I can walk and miles of winter range that deer use.
It's only natural that people are attracted to Wyoming's winter range (and amazing hunting too). It's nothing personal, so don't make it personal.
Be glad you don't have to in a state that ties up all the prime hunting land and shed hunting land in CWMUs. They even tie up the public land and include into the private land. It shouldn't surprise anyone to see Northern Utah guys trying to find other places to hunt and shed hunt. We are just trying to get out and enjoy the outdoors like everyone else.
Go ahead and start the bashing SS
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Really? NONE of those guys live in WY.It wasn't based on just your comments, it was just a general thought.
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I don't know anyone that pushed for the head start either. In fact the first time I saw the bill was when I was just browsing through the 2023 proposed legislation.Maybe you're just interpreting the frustrations for hatred?
I don't know a single person that lives in WY that contacted anyone to get the wheels going on this 1 week shed season head start. In fact most of the serious shed hunters I know didn't know anything about it until it passed.
I believe the whole "issue" regarding western wyoming is a perceived problem. Nothing more, nothing less. We had a perceived problem up here in AK. Every year at our Board of Game meetings there were guys complaining about crowding during their sheep hunts. There were too many people sheep hunting! They wanted NR and R restrictions. They did a bunch of working groups with residents, guides etc all over the state. Come to find out it was such a small % complaining out of the total hunters. They used this data to leave things alone. 10 years later we had a bad winter and it killed off most the sheep.
ok so the ending sucked but you get the point
Utards are a sensitive bunch, the good ones and the bad ones. All that salt water makes ya soft.
Hell of a story ?Maybe you're just interpreting the frustrations for hatred?
I don't know a single person that lives in WY that contacted anyone to get the wheels going on this 1 week shed season head start. In fact most of the serious shed hunters I know didn't know anything about it until it passed.
I believe the whole "issue" regarding western wyoming is a perceived problem. Nothing more, nothing less. We had a perceived problem up here in AK. Every year at our Board of Game meetings there were guys complaining about crowding during their sheep hunts. There were too many people sheep hunting! They wanted NR and R restrictions. They did a bunch of working groups with residents, guides etc all over the state. Come to find out it was such a small % complaining out of the total hunters. They used this data to leave things alone. 10 years later we had a bad winter and it killed off most the sheep.
ok so the ending sucked but you get the point
Utards are a sensitive bunch, the good ones and the bad ones. All that salt water makes ya soft.
Well we're getting a head start next year so sit tight pilgrimHell of a story ?
Most Utah guys don’t mind the wind or the whining of Wyoming guys complaining that they can’t find horns cause they didn’t get a head start. Both are constant
Go ahead and share a link to such, since it seems to be so constant. Post up or shut up.Hell of a story ?
Most Utah guys don’t mind the wind or the whining of Wyoming guys complaining that they can’t find horns cause they didn’t get a head start. Both are constant
Easy Sally!! I’m with you, you guys need a few days to get started so those dang Utahns don’t find all the hornsGo ahead and share a link to such, since it seems to be so constant. Post up or shut up.
Sounds like you guys need it?Well we're getting a head start next year so sit tight pilgrim
I’m a NR right there with ya ???Easy Sally!! I’m with you, you guys need a few days to get started so those dang Utahns don’t find all the horns
Yeah copper go with hornkiller on may 1st ?Coop you can come with me!
You should try itJust wondering if nonres can still hike the hills and place way points on every shed they find (and/or stash) prior to the nonres opener? Seems like nonres really have no reason to wait and have ways to get around the crazy wait reg?