WLH going to prison

[Vanilla]

No I'm trying to make a joke of the difference between what common person's idea of take is, in regards to hunting, with what the provided legal description is.

Hence the laughing face at the end of the post.

Some folks are so dramatic.

I couldn’t care less what a “common” idea is. I care about what the law says, as I very clearly stated in my first response here when providing the definition. You tried to get cute, then lost again. Not sure when you’ll ever learn you’re out of your weight class in these discussions and just stop.

Notice how I never come tell you how to sew up a mount? Take notes, lil buddy. Listen more than you talk. You might learn something for the first time in your life.

 

[hossblur]

What sheep he took?

You probably don't know as much as you think or gossip about.

Do you need the cut and paste from Vanilla definitions post?

The only one who doesn't know, is you

 

[cannonball]

Well it's been my entire life and livelihood. I think and deal with it on a little higher level than most folks.

Higher - NO, different - YES. People who make money from money people usually have to look thru the paper bills to see the other side.

 

[Tristate]

I couldn’t care less what a “common” idea is. I care about what the law says, as I very clearly stated in my first response here when providing the definition. You tried to get cute, then lost again. Not sure when you’ll ever learn you’re out of your weight class in these discussions and just stop.

Notice how I never come tell you how to sew up a mount? Take notes, lil buddy. Listen more than you talk. You might learn something for the first time in your life.

And that's how childish you are. You think it's about win/loss.

 

[Tristate]

Do you need the cut and paste from Vanilla definitions post?

The only one who doesn't know, is you

How can I keep all your lies and made up alternate universe straight. For all I know this is a new made up narrative yall are cultivating.

Yall are so full of crap yall can't keep it straight.

 

[LIK2HNT]

Talk about a one sides argument. Everyone on one side and tri on the other all by himself.

 

[Tristate]

Talk about a one sides argument. Everyone on one side and tri on the other all by himself.

What's funny is they don't even know why.

They are just mad because I still say Wade is a great guy.

 

[Vanilla]

What's funny is they don't even know why.

They are just mad because I still say Wade is a great guy.

False.

I commented only because you tried acting smart about the term “take” when you were 100% wrong. The fact that he “took” these lions on canned hunts is what indeed made it a Lacey Violation. So you should take your own advice above and learn what these things mean.

I couldn’t care less if one low life law breaker likes another. That’s between the two of you and none of my concern. I will correct your falsehoods when you post about things you don’t know or understand, however.

 

[Tristate]

False.

I commented only because you tried acting smart about the term “take” when you were 100% wrong. The fact that he “took” these lions on canned hunts is what indeed made it a Lacey Violation. So you should take your own advice above and learn what these things mean.

I couldn’t care less if one low life law breaker likes another. That’s between the two of you and none of my concern. I will correct your falsehoods when you post about things you don’t know or understand, however.

No the fact that the lions crossed a state line made it a Lacey act violation. And you're a lawyer?????

So angry and calling people names on the internet. You seem very emotionally invested in this thread.

I always enjoy watching a government employee look down their nose at the working men of this country.

 

[hossblur]

How can I keep all your lies and made up alternate universe straight. For all I know this is a new made up narrative yall are cultivating.

Yall are so full of crap yall can't keep it straight.

Easiest way is to read charging statements, court logs, or DWR website.

They contain everything

 

[Tristate]

Easiest way is to read charging statements, court logs, or DWR website.

They contain everything

Are you saying all your lies have finally landed you in court?

 

[Vanilla]

Working "men," riiiiiight....

 

[Tristate]

Working "men," riiiiiight....

You can walk right through my office doors that have been in business for 26 years now and see for yourself. I started this business and I'm still working. I know you wish it wasn't true but that's just how it is.

If you've been trained to look down your nose at people you'll always find a reason, but you won't find happiness.

 

[mevertsen]

Two Southern Utah Men Sentenced in Cougar Hunting Crime in Violation of the Lacey Act

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – A U.S. District Court Judge sentenced the final defendant today in a crime that involved a Utah licensed big game outfitter and his employee/cougar hunting guide in the District of Utah. The two defendants were sentenced separately for their involvement in a crime that...

www.justice.gov

 

[hossblur]

Are you saying all your lies have finally landed you in court?

3rd row. Watching Wade stand before a judge and plea guilty.

 

[Tristate]

3rd row. Watching Wade stand before a judge and plea guilty.

Coo-cooo

 

[LivingTheDream]

They are just mad because I still say Wade is a great guy.

In your opinion, did Wade break the law? Yes or no?

 

[Elkslayer]

What exactly makes wade a great guy?

 

[Tristate]

In your opinion, did Wade break the law? Yes or no?

The way the Lacey act is written, it's likely it was broken. I don't know that for sure. But the Lacey act is a very broad hammer that can be used in ways that the majority of the sporting public have no idea it can be used and most would think it shouldn't be used.

This is a real fact, I don't care about the bickering, and this has nothing to do with Wade. If you hunt in other states than your own or internationally you have almost certainly violated the Lacey Act. All they have to do is set their sights on you and they will find a way to charge you with it. Might take a few years and a few trips but they'll finally get you.

 

[Vanilla]

If you've been trained to look down your nose at people you'll always find a reason, but you won't find happiness.

No, I look down on you because you’re 5’2” tall. And because you have a history of supporting law breaking that I find pretty despicable.

But you can make all your false claims above about me if you want. That is generally what you do when you realize you’re wrong but you don’t have the stones or backbone to just admit it.

Glad I could clear this up for everyone still reading.

Wade Lemon is deservedly going to prison for crimes he committed and has had it coming for a long time. That is what I wish wasn’t true, but it is. I’d prefer that he was just a successful business man that didn’t cheat and break the law so often. But I don’t always get what I want.

 

[Tristate]

No, I look down on you because you’re 5’2” tall. And because you have a history of supporting law breaking that I find pretty despicable.

But you can make all your false claims above about me if you want. That is generally what you do when you realize you’re wrong but you don’t have the stones or backbone to just admit it.

Glad I could clear this up for everyone still reading.

Wade Lemon is deservedly going to prison for crimes he committed and has had it coming for a long time. That is what I wish wasn’t true, but it is. I’d prefer that he was just a successful business man that didn’t cheat and break the law so often. But I don’t always get what I want.

What laws have I supported breaking? Name one.

 

[hossblur]

Anyone else notice how when Doyle got rid of the Lemons you don't hear much about issues with Mossback.?(not a fan of the buisness model he created and uses).

 

[hossblur]

The way the Lacey act is written, it's likely it was broken. I don't know that for sure. But the Lacey act is a very broad hammer that can be used in ways that the majority of the sporting public have no idea it can be used and most would think it shouldn't be used.

This is a real fact, I don't care about the bickering, and this has nothing to do with Wade. If you hunt in other states than your own or internationally you have almost certainly violated the Lacey Act. All they have to do is set their sights on you and they will find a way to charge you with it. Might take a few years and a few trips but they'll finally get you.

The public knows treeing a cat, without a tag, while the tag holder is then transported in, should not be legal. Which, is why under UTAH LAW, it wasn't.

He broke UTAH LAW with his actions. His profession got him a Lacey violation.

This has ONLY to do with Wade.(not really, that apple fell straight down the tree, but his time is coming)

 

[Tristate]

What exactly makes wade a great guy?

Built a successful company and raised a good family. He's a faithful Mormon. He doesn't go looking for trouble. I've never seen him BS someone. I've never seen him wish harm on anyone else.

Those qualities are pretty hard to find these days.

 

[RRCowboyStar]

What laws have I supported breaking? Name one.

The Lacey Act.

 

[Tristate]

The public knows treeing a cat, without a tag, while the tag holder is then transported in, should not be legal. Which, is why under UTAH LAW, it wasn't.

He broke UTAH LAW with his actions. His profession got him a Lacey violation.

This has ONLY to do with Wade.(not really, that apple fell straight down the tree, but his time is coming)

You don't know what you are talking about with the Lacey act.

 

[Tristate]

The Lacey Act.

I have not.

 

[RRCowboyStar]

I have not.

That's all you have done in this entire thread is find reasons to make an excuses why he was convicted of the Lacey Act, but is OK with you because he is a "Great Guy". You have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW"

 

[LivingTheDream]

The way the Lacey act is written, it's likely it was broken. I don't know that for sure. But the Lacey act is a very broad hammer that can be used in ways that the majority of the sporting public have no idea it can be used and most would think it shouldn't be used.

This is a real fact, I don't care about the bickering, and this has nothing to do with Wade. If you hunt in other states than your own or internationally you have almost certainly violated the Lacey Act. All they have to do is set their sights on you and they will find a way to charge you with it. Might take a few years and a few trips but they'll finally get you.

Yes or no question, he admitted he did it, I'm not sure why you can't just say yes.

Also, a lot of us hunt across states and internationally and don't break the Lacey act.

Its ridiculous to say that law enforcement is out to get you.

 

[Tristate]

That's all you have done in this entire thread is find reasons to make an excuses why he was convicted of the Lacey Act, but is OK with you because he is a "Great Guy". You have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW"

I haven't made one single excuse to break the Lacey act and you are a bald face liar. Not one.

As for who is "wrong", grow up.

 

[Tristate]

Yes or no question, he admitted he did it, I'm not sure why you can't just say yes.

Also, a lot of us hunt across states and internationally and don't break the Lacey act.

Its ridiculous to say that law enforcement is out to get you.

You say yes or no Question but you don't ask a question.

You more than likely have broken the Lacey act. I know you don't like hearing that but it is true.

I didn't say law enforcement is out to get me. But law enforcement is out to get certain people at certain times. It's hard not to believe that after watching Trump for the past decade.

 

[coloradoman]

I haven't made one single excuse to break the Lacey act and you are a bald face liar. Not one.

As for who is "wrong", grow up.

By the way just because Wade is a Mormon doesn’t automatically make him a “great guy”

 

[Tristate]

By the way just because Wade is a Mormon doesn’t automatically make him a “great guy”

If I had thought it did that would have been all I typed.

By the way, I'm not a Mormon.

 

[LivingTheDream]

You say yes or no Question but you don't ask a question.

The yes or no was asked by me previously, where I asked and you didn't answer is Wade guilty? So I will ask again and type slowly for you....is Wade guilty of violating the Lacey act.

Also, very rich that you say I have violated it (with no knowledge of me or what I hunt) but can't say the guy who plead guilty is guilty.

But just so you are aware, not everyone is like your "great guy" hero and breaks the law.

 

[Keystone]

You don't know what you are talking about with the Lacey act.

The only guy who doesn't know is you.

The FEDERAL PROSECUTOR laid it out, IN WRITING. Its been pasted in this thread half a dozen times, and yet, you still just keep spinning in a circle.

WHY DID WADE PLEAD GUILTY? I mean with you as his lawyer, this was a slam dunk acquital, right?

 

[hossblur]

If I had thought it did that would have been all I typed.

By the way, I'm not a Mormon.

Obviously.

See Mormons, like all Christians believe that when you've committed a wrong, you repent, make amends and strive to not do so again. Dudes on his 10th or 11th DWR investigation with multiple charges. He seems to not understand very well.

He's a "front row Mormon"

He'll advertise that Mormonism when he feels it gains him an advantage, and bury it when he's breaking laws.

As to him Family.

I leave it to smokepole to educate you on that.


There are lots of people who are raised by criminals and they turn out good citizens IN SPITE OF THEIR PARENT.



Guess what Tri.


I'm betting he sees jail again after this.


Exact same action, just with a bear

 

[FairweatherHTR]

My cousin was watching that 430 bull on the Panguich last year and had a tag for that year and then Lemon flew over the area and found the bull and then brought in his client to harvest. I'm glad that he finally got a slap on the wrist.

 

[Tristate]

The yes or no was asked by me previously, where I asked and you didn't answer is Wade guilty? So I will ask again and type slowly for you....is Wade guilty of violating the Lacey act.

Also, very rich that you say I have violated it (with no knowledge of me or what I hunt) but can't say the guy who plead guilty is guilty.

But just so you are aware, not everyone is like your "great guy" hero and breaks the law.

Actually I did answer that question.

Wade was found guilty. Did he actually do it? I don't know. He might have or might not have.

You think the Lacey act is something you know when you break it. The reality is the majority of sportsmen who violate it have no idea they have. If you hunt in multiple states it is likely that you have violated it. If you hunt internationally it is almost a guarantee.

Do you hunt in other countries and if so which ones?

 

[Tristate]

The only guy who doesn't know is you.

The FEDERAL PROSECUTOR laid it out, IN WRITING. Its been pasted in this thread half a dozen times, and yet, you still just keep spinning in a circle.

WHY DID WADE PLEAD GUILTY? I mean with you as his lawyer, this was a slam dunk acquital, right?

You don't even understand what I'm talking about. You are getting worked up over an argument that doesn't exist. Calm down.

 

[hossblur]

Actually I did answer that question.

Wade was found guilty. Did he actually do it? I don't know. He might have or might not have.

You think the Lacey act is something you know when you break it. The reality is the majority of sportsmen who violate it have no idea they have. If you hunt in multiple states it is likely that you have violated it. If you hunt internationally it is almost a guarantee.

Do you hunt in other countries and if so which ones?

Wade *plead guilty*.

We know youre a stickler for accuracy

 

[Tristate]

Obviously.

See Mormons, like all Christians believe that when you've committed a wrong, you repent, make amends and strive to not do so again. Dudes on his 10th or 11th DWR investigation with multiple charges. He seems to not understand very well.

He's a "front row Mormon"

He'll advertise that Mormonism when he feels it gains him an advantage, and bury it when he's breaking laws.

As to him Family.

I leave it to smokepole to educate you on that.


There are lots of people who are raised by criminals and they turn out good citizens IN SPITE OF THEIR PARENT.



Guess what Tri.


I'm betting he sees jail again after this.


Exact same action, just with a bear

Are you saying Mormons worship the DWR?

 

[Keystone]

You don't even understand what I'm talking about. You are getting worked up over an argument that doesn't exist. Calm down.

No one understands what you're talking about.

You're efforting to.make some point about who knows the Lacey Act better, except dudes keep posting THE LACEY ACT so now your to Mormons.

"My friend broke tge law and is headed to jail. He's made poor decisions. I plan to remain his friend"

You should have just started with that

 

[hossblur]

Are you saying Mormons worship the DWR?

Yes, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormons, believe in following the rule of law as stated in the church's twelfth Article of Faith. The church also recognizes the need for government to keep people accountable and promote the safety and good of society.

Google.

 

[Tristate]

No one understands what you're talking about.

You're efforting to.make some point about who knows the Lacey Act better, except dudes keep posting THE LACEY ACT so now your to Mormons.

"My friend broke tge law and is headed to jail. He's made poor decisions. I plan to remain his friend"

You should have just started with that

Actually I'm not trying to make a point of who knows it better.

I started with Wade Lemon is still a great guy and he is.

 

[Tristate]

Yes, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormons, believe in following the rule of law as stated in the church's twelfth Article of Faith. The church also recognizes the need for government to keep people accountable and promote the safety and good of society.

Google.

That doesn't mean worship.

 

[hossblur]

That doesn't mean worship.

Keep that attention on Wade and his escapades Tri, he has more charges, and all the noise around him, brought out a watch dog group to force the state to charge and not sweep it under.

No amount of guided bear hunts can save him now.

Texas allows conjugal visits, don't worry.

You are doing God's work man, really, multiple tv reports, multiple newspapers, Outdoor life, etc, etc, etc. Without you, it stays silent.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Actually I did answer that question.

Wade was found guilty. Did he actually do it? I don't know. He might have or might not have.

You think the Lacey act is something you know when you break it. The reality is the majority of sportsmen who violate it have no idea they have. If you hunt in multiple states it is likely that you have violated it. If you hunt internationally it is almost a guarantee.

Do you hunt in other countries and if so which ones?

No you didn't, you said the way the law was written it is likely...that is not yes or no. He literally said he did it, not sure why you can't.

You know you can read the Lacey Act and call USFW and get answers. It isn't some mystery.

I hunt in a lot of other countries, across 4 continents. Now since you told me I probably violated the Lacey Act, explain to me how I did it. And since you are so sure explain how every international hunter probably violated Lacey.

But given the fact a guy plead guilty, and you still won't say directly he is guilty, I am not exactly expecting a whole lot of legal knowledge to come from your reply.

 

[Tristate]

Keep that attention on Wade and his escapades Tri, he has more charges, and all the noise around him, brought out a watch dog group to force the state to charge and not sweep it under.

No amount of guided bear hunts can save him now.

Texas allows conjugal visits, don't worry.

You are doing God's work man, really, multiple tv reports, multiple newspapers, Outdoor life, etc, etc, etc. Without you, it stays silent.

Yeah dude, it's my fault. Everyone gets their info from the 14 people that post on Monster Muleys.

Why do I need to worry about conjugal visits in Texas????

You sure don't make any sense.

 

[Tristate]

No you didn't, you said the way the law was written it is likely...that is not yes or no. He literally said he did it, not sure why you can't.

You know you can read the Lacey Act and call USFW and get answers. It isn't some mystery.

I hunt in a lot of other countries, across 4 continents. Now since you told me I probably violated the Lacey Act, explain to me how I did it. And since you are so sure explain how every international hunter probably violated Lacey.

But given the fact a guy plead guilty, and you still won't say directly he is guilty, I am not exactly expecting a whole lot of legal knowledge to come from your reply.

Do you know every single wildlife law in those other countries?

 

[LivingTheDream]

Do you know every single wildlife law in those other countries?

Yes, you know the internet is a hell of a thing.

Would jump on a plane, with a gun, to a foreign country based on what some guy said in an email.

When you hunt internationally, everything you do could be an international incident. You tend to error on the side of caution.

 

[Tristate]

Yes, you know the internet is a hell of a thing.

Would jump on a plane, with a gun, to a foreign country based on what some guy said in an email.

When you hunt internationally, everything you do could be an international incident. You tend to error on the side of caution.

That's hilarious. So you personally study and know every wildlife law in every country you hunt because you have the internet????

 

[RRCowboyStar]

I haven't made one single excuse to break the Lacey act and you are a bald face liar. Not one.

As for who is "wrong", grow up.

Not sure of your answer "grow up". Your analogy that everyone breaks the Lacy Act (You keep giving scenarios) is only your opinion not a fact. But? You have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW" He did, why can't you accept it?
He can still be a "Great Guy in your eyes"

 

[Tristate]

You know you can read the Lacey Act and call USFW and get answers. It isn't some mystery.

And they can give you incorrect answers.

Why don't you ask these Wade haters what they think about calling a government employee for legal clarification?

 

[Tristate]

Not sure of your answer "grow up". Your analogy that everyone breaks the Lacy Act (You keep giving scenarios) is only your opinion not a fact. But? You have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW" He did, why can't you accept it?
He can still be a "Great Guy in your eyes"

I never used an analogy that everyone breaks the Lacey act.

Who says I haven't accepted it????

You make a lot of assumptions based on nothing I said or did.

 

[RRCowboyStar]

I never used an analogy that everyone breaks the Lacey act.

Who says I haven't accepted it????

You make a lot of assumptions based on nothing I said or did.

Making assumptions because of your dance. You have done everything but give straight answers.

"Example.

Your brother asks you to ship his deer to me in another state. You don't know it was taken illegally. I don't know it was taken illegally. You ship it. I do the proper legal paperwork. I ship it back to him finished.

All three of us are in violation of the Lacey act."

If you have accepted it why are you still trying to justify it?

AND? You have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW"

 

[coloradoman]

I never used an analogy that everyone breaks the Lacey act.

Who says I haven't accepted it????

You make a lot of assumptions based on nothing I said or did.

 

[Tristate]

Making assumptions because of your dance. You have done everything but give straight answers.

"Example.

Your brother asks you to ship his deer to me in another state. You don't know it was taken illegally. I don't know it was taken illegally. You ship it. I do the proper legal paperwork. I ship it back to him finished.

All three of us are in violation of the Lacey act."

If you have accepted it why are you still trying to justify it?

AND? You have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW"

I haven't tried to justify it. Those are your assumptions.

 

[Elkslayer]

Built a successful company and raised a good family. He's a faithful Mormon. He doesn't go looking for trouble. I've never seen him BS someone. I've never seen him wish harm on anyone else.

Those qualities are pretty hard to find these days.

Youve never seen him BS anyone because your head is so far up him you cant see. Try living close and knowing the crap he and his goons pull every year.
As far as not looking for trouble, what do you think is going on with his legal status as of lately?
I know lots of faithful religious people I wouldnt trust with a busted nickel plated watch.

 

[RRCowboyStar]

I haven't tried to justify it. Those are your assumptions.

It's easier to get a straight answer out of my grandkids. They only dance around for a little bit. I will wait this one out, you can keep trying to fool your self but again you have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW"

 

[LivingTheDream]

Why don't you ask these Wade haters what they think about calling a government employee for legal clarification?

I don't ask a janitor. I ask someone with the actual authority.

 

[Tristate]

It's easier to get a straight answer out of my grandkids. They only dance around for a little bit. I will wait this one out, you can keep trying to fool your self but again you have yet to say "HE WAS WRONG, AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR BREAKING THE LAW"

If you can't tell I don't have to say what crazy internet people tell me to.

 

[Tristate]

I don't ask a janitor. I ask someone with the actual authority.

Who's asking a janitor? You need to quit believing Hossblur on here.