Rangefinder Ban.....It's time

desperatehills said:
Just what we need, guys guessing it is 950 yards
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Imagine the thought of needing to close the distance. If we can get rid of rangefinders we can then easily put turrets and reticle scopes on the ban list. This needs to happen to put the hunt back in hunting.
 
Just what we need! More advocates wanting to restrict freedoms and rights even more! Great idea! ?

you think winging shots and wounding animals is bad now, pull out the range finder element and you’ll have all kinds of animals leaving blood trails on the mountain that’ll never be recovered
 
Delta Bravo said:
Just what we need! More advocates wanting to restrict freedoms and rights even more! Great idea! ?

you think winging shots and wounding animals is bad now, pull out the range finder element and you’ll have all kinds of animals leaving blood trails on the mountain that’ll never be recovered
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Worked for years before technology came into play. What's wrong DB you afraid to have to hunt a little? Put the hunt back in hunting. Get rid of rangefinders, turrets, and reticles. No downside.
 
Delta Bravo said:
Just what we need! More advocates wanting to restrict freedoms and rights even more! Great idea! ?

you think winging shots and wounding animals is bad now, pull out the range finder element and you’ll have all kinds of animals leaving blood trails on the mountain that’ll never be recovered
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Riiight. Stick to turkeys.
 
It's coming. Wrap your man bun heads around the fact your smart, bluetooth rangefinders will be as useless as the turrets in your scopes. Time to address the elephant in the room.
 
Bigstiffy said:
Worked for years before technology came into play. What's wrong DB you afraid to have to hunt a little? Put the hunt back in hunting. Get rid of rangefinders, turrets, and reticles. No downside.
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DB is a turkey slaying fool, I bet he doesn’t use a rangefinder
 
You know that salty taste in your mouth before you throw up? That’s utah

That nasty stuff you find in drain pipes when your working on your plumbing? That’s Utah

That guy that uses the word running when talking about gear? That’s Utah

The guy who lifts his truck up, puts a winch on it, never leaves the road, has 100 stickers in the back window, that’s Utah

the hunters who brag about long range but wounds a bunch of animals? That’s Utah!
 
Slightlysober said:
You know that salty taste in your mouth before you throw up? That’s utah

That nasty stuff you find in drain pipes when your working on your plumbing? That’s Utah

That guy that uses the word running when talking about gear? That’s Utah

The guy who lifts his truck up, puts a winch on it, never leaves the road, has 100 stickers in the back window, that’s Utah

the hunters who brag about long range but wounds a bunch of animals? That’s Utah!
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Haha I can't argue any of those points. Very nice summary of what it has become.
 
Why are you all whining? You are the same guys whining about putting the hunt back in hunting. So put your money where your mouth is. Let's get rid of the rangefinders. That's all, simple, keep everything else. Just give up your rangefinder. You scared???
 
Bigstiffy said:
Why are you all whining? You are the same guys whining about putting the hunt back in hunting. So put your money where your mouth is. Let's get rid of the rangefinders. That's all, simple, keep everything else. Just give up your rangefinder. You scared???
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And you’re the guy crying about not seeing deer next to the road? And our herd numbers dropping is at fault of technology?
 
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Bigstiffy said:
Why are you all whining? You are the same guys whining about putting the hunt back in hunting. So put your money where your mouth is. Let's get rid of the rangefinders. That's all, simple, keep everything else. Just give up your rangefinder. You scared???
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I take it you're a rifle hunter? What caliber do you use? 270?
 
elkhuntn247 said:
And you’re the guy crying about not seeing deer next to the road? And our heard numbers dropping is at fault of technology?
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No that's not me. Sure doesn't help the "heard" when you are shooting at them from different zip codes. Don't be silly, you just want to send it when you see them from the road. Let's get rid of them, can't hurt.
 
What's the major difference in rifles for hunting since the golden age of deer? 7mm, 06', .300, were all on the landscape. Variable power scopes as well. So address the man's point and don't do the usual. Is there some reason you all need electronics to shoot your gun?

Go ahead and answer that honestly
 
Has nothing to do with electronics. His question is why shoot at an animal at 100yds when you should be closing the distance to 50yds. That is his question.

My question back to him is this: Are you a rifle hunter? Are you a compound bow hunter?

You know where this is going next, right?
 
RookieWYhntr said:
Has nothing to do with electronics. His question is why shoot at an animal at 100yds when you should be closing the distance to 50yds. That is his question.

My question back to him is this: Are you a rifle hunter? Are you a compound bow hunter?

You know where this is going next, right?
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It's actually a statement I made to start the post. Rangefinders need to go. Put the hunt back in hunting. Why so much push back to give up your rangefinder?
 
RookieWYhntr said:
Has nothing to do with electronics. His question is why shoot at an animal at 100yds when you should be closing the distance to 50yds. That is his question.

My question back to him is this: Are you a rifle hunter? Are you a compound bow hunter?

You know where this is going next, right?
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If you were smart you would get onboard with it. How many bucks would make it through the season in G without your rangefinder?
 
I’m too cheap to buy a rangefinder or carry one hunting. Haven’t regretted it yet.
 
GoHigher said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again....less rifle tags and more archery and muzzy tags. All the tech ban proposals will be a nightmare to enforce if put into place.
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The reason why harvest rates are lower with bows is because you don’t have t report wounded animals that died a mile away. You want more animals on the mountain, ban archery hunters!
 
Technology has increased harvest rates of all big game species, there is no doubt. I personally think optics has been the leading contributor to higher harvest rates. I joke that rangefinders are "Performance Enhancing Technology". But they are one of many.

If your goal is to limit harvest numbers, here's my take: There are two ways to limit harvest numbers- You can limit tags given out, or, you can limit the hunter's ability. Imagine if the only way to hunt elk was with a rock and slingshot. You could give out a million tags on the San Juan and not sacrifice any animals. :LOL::LOL: But, if you increase the hunter's ability by putting a high powered rifle in his hand, with a 20x laser range finding scope on top, during the peak of the rut, well... then you can only give out 22 tags each year.

We wouldn't use range finders if we didn't all think they help increase the odds of harvesting our quarry. By logic, without them, our odds decrease, thereby leaving more animals on the mountain, resulting in increased tag numbers (opportunity). If that logic holds true, then I would support a ban on range finders.
 
Guys wanting to ban tech are the first ones in line for a tag to hunt with a rifle... LOL In that case, why don't you just ban anything you didn't make by hand? You have to grow the tree first, harvest the wood. Hopefully you find a dead deer or elk to harvest the sinew. Then kill a duck with a rock so you have feathers for the fletchings. Lastly, you'll have to sharpen your flint skills and make yourself a broadhead. Then, and only then, will you be considered a true hunter who takes no advantages over game animals. But also, if you take a shot over 5 yards you'll have to turn yourself into fish and game for a "long range" violation.

I've now solved all of the world's hunting problems.
 
travishunter3006 said:
Guys wanting to ban tech are the first ones in line for a tag to hunt with a rifle... LOL In that case, why don't you just ban anything you didn't make by hand? You have to grow the tree first, harvest the wood. Hopefully you find a dead deer or elk to harvest the sinew. Then kill a duck with a rock so you have feathers for the fletchings. Lastly, you'll have to sharpen your flint skills and make yourself a broadhead. Then, and only then, will you be considered a true hunter who takes no advantages over game animals. But also, if you take a shot over 5 yards you'll have to turn yourself into fish and game for a "long range" violation.

I've now solved all of the world's hunting problems.
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Sooooo will you give up your rangefinder when the law states you have to? That's all this is about, don't complicate it.
 
Bigstiffy said:
Sooooo will you give up your rangefinder when the law states you have to? That's all this is about, don't complicate it.
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No, because the law won’t say that. Here’s an example: how long have guys been pushing to get the early LE rifle elk hunt out of the rut? And how successful have they been at that?

state isn’t looking to limit opportunity. They might redefine what they deem as a muzzleloader or archery equipment. But range finders, binos, spotters, that kinda thing isn’t going to go anywhere. Don’t use one if you don’t want to. It’s that simple
 
Bux n Dux said:
No, because the law won’t say that. Here’s an example: how long have guys been pushing to get the early LE rifle elk hunt out of the rut? And how successful have they been at that?

state isn’t looking to limit opportunity. They might redefine what they deem as a muzzleloader or archery equipment. But range finders, binos, spotters, that kinda thing isn’t going to go anywhere. Don’t use one if you don’t want to. It’s that simple
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Don't be so sure. Baiting got axed in a quick manner. This technology bill is already in the works.
 
I'm slow- is there actually a movement/bill in some state (Utah?) to ban range finders? I can't find anything on the internet about it...
 
You've got to be smoking crack or stirring the **** pot, one or the other! Why any reasonable person, let alone a hunter, would want to ban something that makes clean kills possible is beyond me. THIS, in and of itself is why we will lose the war on our right to keep and bear arms. I don't give a rats arse if you hunt with a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range or an atlatl, I WILL support your right to do it. You should do the same.
 
Huntaholic said:
You've got to be smoking crack or stirring the **** pot, one or the other! Why any reasonable person, let alone a hunter, would want to ban something that makes clean kills possible is beyond me. THIS, in and of itself is why we will lose the war on our right to keep and bear arms. I don't give a rats arse if you hunt with a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range or an atlatl, I WILL support your right to do it. You should do the same.
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Where were you on the baiting trail cam issue??? We lost that one or will shortly lose trail cams. A rangefinder is just a tool, why you all up in arms? I'm excited to see them go. Once they go, it won't matter what scope you have, a little bit of hunting will be involved. That won't be so bad will it???
 
travishunter3006 said:
Baiting was illegal then it wasn’t illegal now it is again. Things come and go. Much like the ugly women in your life.
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Wohhhh there Travis. Why are you so butthurt? Might have to put some boots on the ground to get closer? You can still hunt with your .06 just can't use your rangefinder. Better start practicing with your fixed power scope, I know that is scary, but I think you'll survive??? This is like telling a fat little video gamer you are taking his Xbox, he might have to get some exercise. Be good for everyone involved won't it?
 
Society was better off before tech increased longevity of life. Too many people sucking up valuable resources where they don't contribute to the output anymore.

The problems we face today are too many people pretending it is their obligation to decide what others should and shouldn't have/use/own...
 
I never thought I’d see the day when a guy would be advocating for hunters to lose a tool that certainly would greatly help them effectively, efficiently and quickly achieve the ultimate goal, a 1 shot, quick kill…. But here we are!

this is more and more like California every day.
 
roadrunner said:
Society was better off before tech increased longevity of life. Too many people sucking up valuable resources where they don't contribute to the output anymore.

The problems we face today are too many people pretending it is their obligation to decide what others should and shouldn't have/use/own...
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No. Our problems in hunting is pretending we can hunt deer, who haven't evolved in thousands of years with tech that evolves yearly.

At some point we have to decide, do you want to hunt? Or do you need to kill?

The modern concept is KILL. Regardless of baits, cams, electronics, paid scouting, guides, etc.

It's no longer give me a tag, let me put myself vs nature.

It's if I don't kill there won't be IG and FB posts, my shlong will be 2inches shorter.

Tell your grandpa you need bait, a trail cam, a lr rifle with 2000yrd range finders, a ballistic computer, etc to kill a deer. Then watch him write you out of the will.
 
roadrunner said:
Society was better off before tech increased longevity of life. Too many people sucking up valuable resources where they don't contribute to the output anymore.

The problems we face today are too many people pretending it is their obligation to decide what others should and shouldn't have/use/own...
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Don't overthink it. The majority here wanted baiting banned but now the tables have turned you play the infringement of rights card....c'mon it's just your rangefinder. Can't you let it go??? Let's put the hunt back into hunting.
 
Bux n Dux said:
I never thought I’d see the day when a guy would be advocating for hunters to lose a tool that certainly would greatly help them effectively, efficiently and quickly achieve the ultimate goal, a 1 shot, quick kill…. But here we are!

this is more and more like California every day.
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Really? Where did hunters decide they weren't hunters, but we're killers?
 
I never thought the day would come that you have to rely on a smart rangefinder to take all the guesswork out of your shot, you've lost all sense of woodsmanship skills to get close and make a clean kill. INCREDIBLE that fact is so hard for most to see.
 
Bigstiffy said:
I never thought the day would come that you have to rely on a smart rangefinder to take all the guesswork out of your shot, you've lost all sense of woodsmanship skills to get close and make a clean kill. INCREDIBLE that fact is so hard for most to see.
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Same guys use 1960's deer numbers, but 2021 tech
 
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None of you must be duck hunters, You would know we dont use range finders and you can watch 90% of the hunters shooting at birds that are 4 times out of range and they dont learn not to, so I think if you want to get rid of range finders you may as well get rid of any ethics that many hunter may still have. There are many technologies that are going to be bad for us in some way, I just dont think a range finder is one of them.
 
TheNewGuyInTown said:
How about we ban all the bitching and moaning!! I enjoy my tree camera’s, apples and 1,000 yard muzzleloader.

I’LL HUNT MY WAY, YOU HUNT YOURS!!

MAGA!!!!
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A little late for that. The rangefinder ban is moving quicker than the bait ban did. Once the ball starts rolling there is no turning back. Should have thought about that before the bait whiners started their bitching.
 
I don't believe in getting rid of rangefinders but there is undeniably room for improvement to somewhat level the playing field. At some point we will need to or face some real severe losses to "hunting" privileges and opportunity.
 
Bigstiffy said:
Don't overthink it. The majority here wanted baiting banned but now the tables have turned you play the infringement of rights card....c'mon it's just your rangefinder. Can't you let it go??? Let's put the hunt back into hunting.
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Easy fix. All large rifle calibers have a 300 yd zero and all magnums a 400. Problem solved.

Bigstiffy said:
I never thought the day would come that you have to rely on a smart rangefinder to take all the guesswork out of your shot, you've lost all sense of woodsmanship skills to get close and make a clean kill. INCREDIBLE that fact is so hard for most to see.
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I agree, with long seasons and multiple opportunities for stalks, you should still be able to fill a tag.

Of course, we only get days to hunt now instead of weeks or months.

Wildlife and game mangers are usually more concerned with herd health after us modern humans have cheated death until very old age all the while encroaching on crucial range than they are with your ability to run naked through the trees incorporating the use of true woodsmanship skills trying to kill an animal with a stone and sling...
 
Bigstiffy said:
Wohhhh there Travis. Why are you so butthurt? Might have to put some boots on the ground to get closer? You can still hunt with your .06 just can't use your rangefinder. Better start practicing with your fixed power scope, I know that is scary, but I think you'll survive??? This is like telling a fat little video gamer you are taking his Xbox, he might have to get some exercise. Be good for everyone involved won't it?
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You’re a hypocrite if you hunt with a rifle. I archery hunt. I’m a real hunter. You rifle guys are cheating. How about I make you get out and actually hunt with the old stick and sting. Lazy SOB.
 
I don’t think I’ve heard a good argument here, for or against rangefinders. If you don’t agree with Bigstiffy, At least present a good argument. If you can’t do that give him a personal shot... tell him all his kids look like his mother in law, even the boys... JK I don’t even know if he has kids...
 
travishunter3006 said:
You’re a hypocrite if you hunt with a rifle. I archery hunt. I’m a real hunter. You rifle guys are cheating. How about I make you get out and actually hunt with the old stick and sting. Lazy SOB.
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Quit slobbering, take a breath, and use your words. Then put down the rangefinder and walk away......it will be ok. Shoot your bow enough that you know the yardage, don't rely on the technology you might find out you like it more.
 
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Cooper said:
I say get rid of side besides, just because!!!!
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rubucky said:
I don’t think I’ve heard a good argument here, for or against rangefinders. If you don’t agree with Bigstiffy, At least present a good argument. If you can’t do that give him a personal shot... tell him all his kids look like his mother in law, even the boys... JK I don’t even know if he has kids...
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Haha eat my shorts bucky. My mother in law doesn't use a rangefinder, but she does bait bears and looks like Brucelin Jenner.
 
No, rangefinders only. Bowhunters already gave up bait. Rangefinders is fair across the board. It's coming regardless of what you are willing to give
 
I don’t understand why you would want them gone? Get out of you sxs and walk in the only thing they’ll hear is your bitching about how unfair life is and if everyone thought like you it would be great. Get a bow and hunt.
 
This isn't a bowhunting thread it's about giving up your rangefinders. What's the big deal? Are you all so dependent on your rangefinder you are afraid to give it up? Better get a plan in place to figure out how to hunt without one. Regardless if you bowhunt, muzzy, or rifle. It seems that banning rangefinders would be like giving a kidney. I'm excited for it. It's easy to enforce and will make a difference in getting back to hunting. Why you all so worried???
 
Bigstiffy said:
This isn't a bowhunting thread it's about giving up your rangefinders. What's the big deal? Are you all so dependent on your rangefinder you are afraid to give it up? Better get a plan in place to figure out how to hunt without one. Regardless if you bowhunt, muzzy, or rifle. It seems that banning rangefinders would be like giving a kidney. I'm excited for it. It's easy to enforce and will make a difference in getting back to hunting. Why you all so worried???
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This is like Biden saying “why does anyone need an AR-15?” It’s not about the range finder.
 
elkhuntn247 said:
This is like Biden saying “why does anyone need an AR-15?” It’s not about the range finder.
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Ohhhh so this is somehow different than the baiting ban?......gotcha! When it impacts you it's different. It's starting to make sense now. It doesn't matter either way the balls already rolling.
 
Hey Hawkeye?

I've Still Got My Original HAWKENS!

You Know!

When Nearly Everything is Banned You Guys Will Probably Still Let Me Use That!
 
wildfin said:
None of you must be duck hunters, You would know we dont use range finders and you can watch 90% of the hunters shooting at birds that are 4 times out of range and they dont learn not to, so I think if you want to get rid of range finders you may as well get rid of any ethics that many hunter may still have. There are many technologies that are going to be bad for us in some way, I just dont think a range finder is one of them.
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It’s so true. It’s very obvious who hasn’t witnessed what happens on a GSL marsh opening day hahaha and they think this will be any different?
 

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