DNR padding their work loads with speeding tickets??

This kind of stuff ticks me off! No wonder people can poach and get away with it. No One is out there. And then to have a DWR officer pull you over and give tickets??? Garbage!!! Someone needs to ask about this at the next RAC or WB meeting and I would love to see the looks on the faces of the Board.
 
A little off topic but those windows are definitely tinted too dark to be legal…

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I'm assuming this is part of DWR becoming DNR?


Seems fraudulent to me. We fund this agency with Pitman and license fees to watch out for our wildlife and instead they are on I-15 chasing teenagers?
 
Once the archery season starts, the officers will all be in court for the I-15 speeding court dates vs being in the field. Pretty messed up.
 
Robiland said:
Someone needs to ask about this at the next RAC or WB meeting and I would love to see the looks on the faces of the Board.
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Why? The DWR conservation officers do not work for the Wildlife Board or the RACs. Why would the DNR care what those two groups have to say over anyone else?

elkassassin said:
Anybody Know How Close To The White Line Is Too F'N Close?

How Bout It Niller?

Do You Know?
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I do know! “Close to the line” is not a violation.

I know this news story gets people fired up, and that is the whole reason they are doing it. A presidential election isn’t enough good news bites for them, apparently. So here is the deal, coming from someone that has no authority to speak on behalf of anyone and I have no inside knowledge about what is happening with the DNR directive, but I do know a thing or two about this world and will spit some truth for you all.

DWR conservation officers are POST certified with the exact same statewide law enforcement jurisdiction as any other police officer in the state. If they observe a violation of the law, why does anyone think they can’t stop you? The law doesn’t agree with you if you are of that belief. While traffic enforcement isn’t a part of their direct duties, it’s absolutely in their prerogative to make a lawful stop for any violation of the law anywhere in the state of Utah.

Next, it appears they are doing this because they were told to do so by their superiors. The vast majority of us answer to a boss, and when our bosses say your job is now to do this, we do it. If we have an issue with the practice, we shouldn’t harp on the officers, but take it up the chain to those that mandated they do certain things.

Honestly, this doesn’t bother me one bit. If I felt like DWR officers were camped out on I-15 running radar all shift, that would bug me, however, it appears they are just being told that when out and about traveling between areas, if you see something, do something about it. I’ve got no issue with that. This isn’t illegal. It’s not a violation of policy. It’s within their law enforcement powers.

If you don’t want a speeding ticket, don’t speed.
 
So?

Is Our DWR/DNR Money Going For RADAR Guns & Such?

I Believe We Have UHP'S For That!

So?

If The UHP Decides He's Had Enough Of The City BS?

Can He Go To The Mountain & Look For POACHERS & ETC?

Vanilla said:
Why? The DWR conservation officers do not work for the Wildlife Board or the RACs. Why would the DNR care what those two groups have to say over anyone else?



I do know! “Close to the line” is not a violation.

I know this news story gets people fired up, and that is the whole reason they are doing it. A presidential election isn’t enough good news bites for them, apparently. So here is the deal, coming from someone that has no authority to speak on behalf of anyone and I have no inside knowledge about what is happening with the DNR directive, but I do know a thing or two about this world and will spit some truth for you all.

DWR conservation officers are POST certified with the exact same statewide law enforcement jurisdiction as any other police officer in the state. If they observe a violation of the law, why does anyone think they can’t stop you? The law doesn’t agree with you if you are of that belief. While traffic enforcement isn’t a part of their direct duties, it’s absolutely in their prerogative to make a lawful stop for any violation of the law anywhere in the state of Utah.

Next, it appears they are doing this because they were told to do so by their superiors. The vast majority of us answer to a boss, and when our bosses say your job is now to do this, we do it. If we have an issue with the practice, we shouldn’t harp on the officers, but take it up the chain to those that mandated they do certain things.

Honestly, this doesn’t bother me one bit. If I felt like DWR officers were camped out on I-15 running radar all shift, that would bug me, however, it appears they are just being told that when out and about traveling between areas, if you see something, do something about it. I’ve got no issue with that. This isn’t illegal. It’s not a violation of policy. It’s within their law enforcement powers.

If you don’t want a speeding ticket, don’t speed.
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elkassassin said:
Is Our DWR/DNR Money Going For RADAR Guns & Such?
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The article said they are not equipped with radar/lidar guns. So I guess the answer to that is no, none of “your” DWR/DNR money is going to those things.

elkassassin said:
So?

If The UHP Decides He's Had Enough Of The City BS?

Can He Go To The Mountain & Look For POACHERS & ETC?
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I’m guessing the colonel of the Utah Highway Patrol will not give that directive. However, if he did, I guess legally they could.
 
Vanilla said:
Why? The DWR conservation officers do not work for the Wildlife Board or the RACs. Why would the DNR care what those two groups have to say over anyone else?



I do know! “Close to the line” is not a violation.

I know this news story gets people fired up, and that is the whole reason they are doing it. A presidential election isn’t enough good news bites for them, apparently. So here is the deal, coming from someone that has no authority to speak on behalf of anyone and I have no inside knowledge about what is happening with the DNR directive, but I do know a thing or two about this world and will spit some truth for you all.

DWR conservation officers are POST certified with the exact same statewide law enforcement jurisdiction as any other police officer in the state. If they observe a violation of the law, why does anyone think they can’t stop you? The law doesn’t agree with you if you are of that belief. While traffic enforcement isn’t a part of their direct duties, it’s absolutely in their prerogative to make a lawful stop for any violation of the law anywhere in the state of Utah.

Next, it appears they are doing this because they were told to do so by their superiors. The vast majority of us answer to a boss, and when our bosses say your job is now to do this, we do it. If we have an issue with the practice, we shouldn’t harp on the officers, but take it up the chain to those that mandated they do certain things.

Honestly, this doesn’t bother me one bit. If I felt like DWR officers were camped out on I-15 running radar all shift, that would bug me, however, it appears they are just being told that when out and about traveling between areas, if you see something, do something about it. I’ve got no issue with that. This isn’t illegal. It’s not a violation of policy. It’s within their law enforcement powers.

If you don’t want a speeding ticket, don’t speed.
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I believe people are mostly upset that we have UHP, city and county cops to patrol traffic violations. DWR is for the wildlife. The fact they are actually putting in time and resources to patrol things we already have tax dollars paying for, when they could be out doing what their actual job, is what get people mad. You hear all the time their resources and man power is already stretched very thin. Yet here they are, patrolling for moving violations, that’s the issue.
 
So?

They're Gonna Give Somebody A Speeding Ticket By Saying:YOU WERE GOING XXX MPH With No RADAR & No Proof?

I Like To See How Many Times In Court That'd Hold Up!

Now I Could See A Vehicle Passing A DWR Truck Like He Was Stopped & The DWR Officer Kicks It Up And Catches Up & If He's Talented Enough He Could Use His Phone Cam For Evidence!

But Again?

We've Stooped So Low As To Resort To This Rather Than Taking Care Of GAME & FISH?
 
Bux n Dux said:
I believe people are mostly upset that we have UHP, city and county cops to patrol traffic violations. DWR is for the wildlife. The fact they are actually putting in time and resources to patrol things we already have tax dollars paying for, when they could be out doing what their actual job, is what get people mad. You hear all the time their resources and man power is already stretched very thin. Yet here they are, patrolling for moving violations, that’s the issue.
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I don’t disagree, but if I were a betting man, this investigative piece is sensationalizing how much “patrolling” they are doing.

Someone GRAMA request how many speeding tickets have been written statewide by DWR officers. I’m guessing the number isn’t high.
 
Vanilla said:
I don’t disagree, but if I were a betting man, this investigative piece is sensationalizing how much “patrolling” they are doing.

Someone GRAMA request how many speeding tickets have been written statewide by DWR officers. I’m guessing the number isn’t high.
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So?

You're OK With Game Wardens Writing SPEEDING Tickets When They Could Be Up On The Hill Checking Hunters & Fishermen?
 
elkassassin said:
So?

You're OK With Game Wardens Writing SPEEDING Tickets When They Could Be Up On The Hill Checking Hunters & Fishermen?
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No, I do not want them doing that while they are supposed to be up on the mountain.

But I’ll try to make this very simple: If they are not on the mountain, which they don’t stay on the mountain 24/7 365, Bessy, and if they are driving down the road when they are NOT on the mountain, and see a violation I have zero heartburn if they address it.

Zero.

Like I said above, all these snowflakes need to quit blaming others and take a little accountability. If you don’t want a speeding ticket, don’t speed.
 

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