were they talking statewide or 48? since i wont be going back so ill tell you guys where i was at. i started off up in warms springs creek. hunted up around buttercup and over by dollarhide. ended up killing a 4 pt. a couple ridges away from the corrals that are down by the road. then we headed south of kelly mtn. out in the desert to try and get my buddy his deer. what a joke. i have never seen so many people....just driving/riding the trails and roads. we didnt stay there for long. ive been up in that country quite a bit over the last few years, but have never seen large amounts of deer. i guess what kept me going back was the quality of the bucks we did see. there still are some mungsters over there. but they are few and far between.