BuzzH
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LAST EDITED ON Jan-17-15 AT 09:08PM (MST)[p]Get that notepad and pen out.
I'm sure you'll now take this information I'm about to give you and run with it and use it as your own. Something you're very good at as evidenced by your board-hopping trying to be the "man"
First of all the poll conducted pointing out that a majority of Resident hunters were in support of SF31 last year:
The poll, conducted by DFM Research, was commissioned by the George B. Storer Foundation, a supporter of conservation and sportsmen?s organizations in Wyoming, including the Wyoming Sportsmen?s Alliance. The poll surveyed 550 Wyoming residents statewide between Nov. 15 and Dec. 7, 2013. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percent. According to polling results by DFM Research of St. Paul, Minn., some 63 percent of Wyoming residents supported the proposed fee increases.
With those FACTS on the table, now what you wont find on a cd-rom from your desk in Michigan.
In conversations I had with some Legilsators, that I wont name, I was told that ANY bill that had anything to do with increasing the funding for GF was "never going to see the light of day". That was a fact, as all the funding bills never made it out of committee. The likes of Lynn Hutchings, Marti Halverson, Gerald Gay, Gary Piiparinen, and a few others killed every bill that increased license fees. If you recall, there was also a PP bill last session, as well as the previous session, that died too. It died because a resident PP bill would have given the GF additional funding.
Those bills died in defiance of what the poll said, by the written comments received, as well as testimony given to the TRW committee. I know because, unlike you, I'm not forced to guess. I heard Marti Halverson rake Director Talbott over the coals for cutting programs, never mind that Marti Halverson and her merry band of misfits, cut the GF budget in 2013/14 by a combined 6.6 million. Just WTF is the Director supposed to do when you lose nearly 7 million in 2 years?
I will give Director Talbott a lot of credit, I would have lost my job in my reply back to that tea-party transplant from Connecticut.
I also know, that at least 2 of the other TRW committee members had a major dislike for the GF from previous run-ins. I wont say who, but someone may have had lunch with Gerald Gay and got the low-down on the low-down.
The deck was clearly stacked against any Fee increases, it didn't matter if hunters marched on the capitol in Cheyenne with pitchforks and torches, no fee increase legislation was going to pass, and it didn't. The polls weren't convincing, the testimony didn't matter, and the comments receieved didn't either.
SF45 was a miracle, only passed because of the herculean effort that WYSA put into it, and the fact that it didn't allocate any solid funding for the GF. All it did was give the GF the go-ahead to ask for funding for grizzly bear management and GF employee health coverage.
Even at that, Marti Halverson made the motion to take out the Grizzly bear funding portion of the bill. That idea came from none other than Bob Wharff, as he wanted sf45 to fail. Halverson already knew that the bill would never pass the Senate TRW committee without the grizzly bear language included. Gerald Gay, in his infinite wisdom, also took a chunk out of Director Talbotts a$$, saying that "the GF is messing up Grizzly Management. When I used to go to Yellowstone, I saw grizzlies every night at the garbage dumps in the headlights, now I don't see any". That was his defense for dropping the Grizzly bear management portion of SF45.
The Grizzly bear portion of the bill was added back in on the floor, thanks to some savvy moves by the WYSA...that bill would have died, 100%, if not for their efforts.
So, you ask how it is that the fee increase bills died even with over-whelming Resident support? There it is, a teaparty agenda, a couple personal grudge matches with GF and the wrong people on the TRW committee.
One would think a guy of your age, with all your supposed knowledge, would be able to connect the most obvious of dots. Yet you seem incapable of doing anything but parroting what others know and tell you. Just like you will most likely do with what I just posted.
It may be worth considering, that some of the same Legislators will be voting on the 90/10 split. That bill, even though it doesn't reduce the GF budget by much, will be seen as a golden opportunity for people the likes of Halverson, Gay, and Piipiranen to take another shot at the GF budget.
You savvy that Mikey, or do I need to get out the crayons...???
I'm sure you'll now take this information I'm about to give you and run with it and use it as your own. Something you're very good at as evidenced by your board-hopping trying to be the "man"
First of all the poll conducted pointing out that a majority of Resident hunters were in support of SF31 last year:
The poll, conducted by DFM Research, was commissioned by the George B. Storer Foundation, a supporter of conservation and sportsmen?s organizations in Wyoming, including the Wyoming Sportsmen?s Alliance. The poll surveyed 550 Wyoming residents statewide between Nov. 15 and Dec. 7, 2013. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percent. According to polling results by DFM Research of St. Paul, Minn., some 63 percent of Wyoming residents supported the proposed fee increases.
With those FACTS on the table, now what you wont find on a cd-rom from your desk in Michigan.
In conversations I had with some Legilsators, that I wont name, I was told that ANY bill that had anything to do with increasing the funding for GF was "never going to see the light of day". That was a fact, as all the funding bills never made it out of committee. The likes of Lynn Hutchings, Marti Halverson, Gerald Gay, Gary Piiparinen, and a few others killed every bill that increased license fees. If you recall, there was also a PP bill last session, as well as the previous session, that died too. It died because a resident PP bill would have given the GF additional funding.
Those bills died in defiance of what the poll said, by the written comments received, as well as testimony given to the TRW committee. I know because, unlike you, I'm not forced to guess. I heard Marti Halverson rake Director Talbott over the coals for cutting programs, never mind that Marti Halverson and her merry band of misfits, cut the GF budget in 2013/14 by a combined 6.6 million. Just WTF is the Director supposed to do when you lose nearly 7 million in 2 years?
I will give Director Talbott a lot of credit, I would have lost my job in my reply back to that tea-party transplant from Connecticut.
I also know, that at least 2 of the other TRW committee members had a major dislike for the GF from previous run-ins. I wont say who, but someone may have had lunch with Gerald Gay and got the low-down on the low-down.
The deck was clearly stacked against any Fee increases, it didn't matter if hunters marched on the capitol in Cheyenne with pitchforks and torches, no fee increase legislation was going to pass, and it didn't. The polls weren't convincing, the testimony didn't matter, and the comments receieved didn't either.
SF45 was a miracle, only passed because of the herculean effort that WYSA put into it, and the fact that it didn't allocate any solid funding for the GF. All it did was give the GF the go-ahead to ask for funding for grizzly bear management and GF employee health coverage.
Even at that, Marti Halverson made the motion to take out the Grizzly bear funding portion of the bill. That idea came from none other than Bob Wharff, as he wanted sf45 to fail. Halverson already knew that the bill would never pass the Senate TRW committee without the grizzly bear language included. Gerald Gay, in his infinite wisdom, also took a chunk out of Director Talbotts a$$, saying that "the GF is messing up Grizzly Management. When I used to go to Yellowstone, I saw grizzlies every night at the garbage dumps in the headlights, now I don't see any". That was his defense for dropping the Grizzly bear management portion of SF45.
The Grizzly bear portion of the bill was added back in on the floor, thanks to some savvy moves by the WYSA...that bill would have died, 100%, if not for their efforts.
So, you ask how it is that the fee increase bills died even with over-whelming Resident support? There it is, a teaparty agenda, a couple personal grudge matches with GF and the wrong people on the TRW committee.
One would think a guy of your age, with all your supposed knowledge, would be able to connect the most obvious of dots. Yet you seem incapable of doing anything but parroting what others know and tell you. Just like you will most likely do with what I just posted.
It may be worth considering, that some of the same Legislators will be voting on the 90/10 split. That bill, even though it doesn't reduce the GF budget by much, will be seen as a golden opportunity for people the likes of Halverson, Gay, and Piipiranen to take another shot at the GF budget.
You savvy that Mikey, or do I need to get out the crayons...???
