The Age of Warming

202typical

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Did any of you see this hit piece on the Bush Admin last night. They ran it durring the Green Bay game so I had to flick back and forth. Now I will admit I did not see every secind of this piece, but I did see quite a bit of it. It was obvious the only reporting they did was on man made causes of global warming. It was one sided, it was all man's fault, there was no oposing view, not a mention of any other factors that effect global warming. The entire show was America is bad and it is all our fault. What are these people trying to prove. Anyone could see right through them. Unbelievable.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/30/60minutes/main2631210.shtml

?Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.?
---Theodore Roosevelt,
 
Maybe if our government agents in charge of this issue were allowed to speak freely and not censored by this administration CBS wouldn't have needed to be so as you say " one sided "

I watched it and the people they talked to are respected scientist. they make a convincing case for man made global warming and that includes the guy Regan put on the case years ago and NASA experts . I have more reason to believe them than a censored report from an oil lobbyist in the whitehouse, there is only one truth and it may be one sided.

It always pays to be skeptical but there comes a time when you have to make up your mind, the science is starting to look as if the case is being proven for man caused warming. I'll hazard a guess within 5 years it is an accepted theory and action will be taken by all developed governments, to what degree who knows.
 
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>being proven for man caused
>warming. I'll hazard a guess
>within 5 years it is
>an accepted theory and action
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>developed governments, to what degree
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I would say the scientist that believe it is all man's fault are doing a better job of selling it than those who disagree. These scientist are the new Al Sharptons and Jesse Jackson of our scociety. Instead of Pimping welfare they are pimping Global Warming. We all gotta make a buck some how. I would also say a good histeria always gets attention even if it is meaningless.
I will agree with your assesment though on 5 years. Damn shame. The world will be able to tax us once the U.N. gets it mits into it. Rediculous.
I still want one of these Global Warming Pimps to explain why the other planets in our solar system are warming at the same rate we are. Next they will try and sell us on the fact that we are poluting the entire universe with CO2.


?Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.?
---Theodore Roosevelt,
 
How do we square the fact that almost every planet in our solar system is simultaneously undergoing temperature change and volatile weather patterns. Does this not suggest that global warming is a natural cycle as a result of the evolving nature of the sun? Can Al Gore fill me in on this one?

- Space.com: Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists
In what is largely a reversal of an August announcement, astronomers today said Pluto is undergoing global warming in its thin atmosphere even as it moves farther from the Sun on its long, odd-shaped orbit.

- Space.com: New Storm on Jupiter Hints at Climate Change
The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe.

- Current Science & Technology Center: Global Warming on Mars?
A study of the ice caps on Mars may show that the red planet is experiencing a warming trend. If both Mars and Earth are experiencing global warming, then perhaps there is a larger phenomenon going on in the Solar System that is causing their global climates to change.

- United Press International: NASA looks at a monster storm on Saturn
NASA says its Cassini spacecraft has found a hurricane-like storm at Saturn's South Pole, nearly 5,000 miles across -- or two-thirds Earth's diameter.

- Science Agogo: Global Warming Detected on Triton
There may not be much industrial pollution on Neptune's largest moon, but things are hotting up nonetheless. "At least since 1989, Triton has been undergoing a period of global warming," confirms astronomer James Elliot, professor of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "Percentage-wise, it's a very large increase."

- Associated Press: Study says sun getting hotter
Solar radiation reaching the Earth is 0.036 percent warmer than it was in 1986, when the current solar cycle was beginning, a researcher reports in a study to be published Friday in the journal Science. The finding is based on an analysis of satellites that measure the temperature of sunlight.

- London Telegraph: The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame
Global warming has finally been explained: the Earth is getting hotter because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the past 1,000 years, according to new research.

The simple fact is that throughout the ages the earth has swung wildly between a warm, wet, stable climate, to a cold, dry and windy one - long before the first fossil fuel was burned. The changes we are now witnessing are a walk in the park compared to the battering that our planet has taken in the past.

This is not a defense of the oil cartels or the Neo-Con wreckers, who would have every motivation to ignore global warming whether it is man-made or not.

Nor is it a blanket denial of the fact that the earth is getting very gradually hotter, but how do we reconcile global warming taking place at the farthest reaches of the solar system with the contention that it is caused by human activity? Have our exhaust fumes left earth's atmosphere and slipped through a black hole to Triton?

The assertion that global warming is man made is so oppressively enforced upon popular opinion, especially in Europe, that expressing a scintilla of doubt is akin to holocaust denial in some cases. Such is the insipid brainwashing that has taken place via television, newspapers and exalted talking heads - global warming skeptics are forced to wear the metaphoric yellow star and only discuss their doubts in hushed tones and conciliatory frameworks, or be cat-called, harangued and jeered by an army of do-gooders who righteously believe they are rescuing mother earth by recycling a wine bottle or putting their paper in a separate trash can.

Fearmongering about an imminent climate doomsday also hogs news coverage and important environmental issues like GM food, mad scientist chimera cloning and the usurpation and abuse of corporations like Monsanto flies under the radar.

Global warming is cited as an excuse to meter out further control and surveillance over our daily lives, RFID chips on our trash cans, GPS satellite tacking and taxation by the mile, as well as a global tax at the gas pump.

The extremist wing of the environmentalist movement, characterized by people like Dr. Erik Pianka, advocate the mass culling of humanity via plagues and state sanctioned bio-terrorism, in order to "save" the earth from the disease of humanity. Nazi-like genocial population control measures and the environmental establishment have always held a close alliance.

The orthodox organized religion of global warming and its disastrous consequences for our freedom of speech, freedom of mobility and our right to remain outside of the system, needs to be questioned on the foundational basis that the phenomenon is solar-system wide and it is mainly caused by the natural evolution of the sun and not human activity.



?Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong.?
---Theodore Roosevelt,
 
Man caused global warming is a done deal. Get used to it. They are in a no lose situation. If it keeps getting warmer, we're not doing enough. If a cooling trend comes along, Al Gore not only invented the internet, he saved the fricken world!

Quit trying to convince yourselves it's not man made. Ain't nobody hearing it!

Eel
 
Eel

I think your on to something. Al Gore's work has all ready paid off. It was bitter cold at my cabin last night. Can't remember it ever being that cold at the cabin. I think I'll call him and tell him his work is paying off and maybe it's time to let up a little as I'm running low on firewood. Just when I thought I might plant cotton too.


Ransom
 
202 you watch too much X Files, this whole bunch of crap doesn't set well with me either it's might cost me plenty but facts are facts. if we are changing the environment which it appears we are accusing good people who are devoted to science and the truth liars trying to line thier pockets won't hide the truth when the water is up around your knees in many cites around the world. I feel there's a better than 50/50 chance they're right, we better hope they are because that means maybe there's something we can do.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-21-08 AT 06:27PM (MST)[p]We should all stand against the lobby of the global volcano foundation. The volcano is a menace to the earth and spits in the face of emmision standards. If the volcano cannot pass certain standards they should be shut off immediately. Besides, I'll bet Bush profits each time there is a volcanic eruption in the world. Word has it that Pele, Vulcan, and other volcano Gods are known to have secret meetings with Bush and are otherwise in his hip pocket. Last time these volcanic eruptions went unchecked, many scientist say they wiped out the dinos.



Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. --Ronald Reagan
 
And all the scientists who say it's bad science are liar's. If not they're just stupid.


Ransom


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