Pauns

[DIY]

So hoping next year is the year I draw a nonresident Pauns tag. 20 point going into 2025. Any thoughts? What’s the deer numbers looking like?

 

[Ticks N Tines]

I have 20 resident points and still can't draw.

 

[WesternSky]

Based on 23 odds, you needed 24 points to draw an archery tag let alone the rifle or muzz. I bet your 15 years away from drawing considering point creep.

 

[Vanilla]

You should reach out to @Zim!

 

[BrowningRage]

Unfortunately, if you have 20 points, that means in the 2024 draw you had 19 points, correct?

Reality Check: There are 46 people ahead of your point pool just for the Archery tag, and with only 2 bonus tags, it'll take 23 years to eliminate all of them. There are 34 ahead of you for a muzzy tag (17 years), and like 220 for rifle (4 tags= 55 year wait). You have to look at that tag as a total lottery win, and should never expect to draw any of them except for the 1 or 3 random tags (which odds are 1 in thousands). However, it looks like you are very close to a Management Tag. 50/50 in 2026 if all things remain the same as this year's draw.

 

[Tikka]

You should reach out to @Zim!

Beat me to it…

 

[JPickett]

Man, I used to be against the point system but seeing stuff like this just makes me think it’s the best possible way

 

[Iowan]

If I were you, I would spend all summer scouting. Repeat in 2026, etc. You will know the unit exceptionally well when you draw. It is possible a deer born in 2025 will be alive still when you hunt it.

 

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

You are nowhere close to drawing a tag

 

[elkhunterUT]

Pretty clear your parade has been rained on with this post, but it is reality. You have a LONG wait to draw a Paunsaugunt tag, but you always have a chance with the random draw in Utah so keep putting in and you might get lucky!

 

[Togwotee]

It took 27 NR points this year to be in the game.

My wife had 26 and didn't draw, 27 next year so maybe a slim chance.

 

[JPickett]

It took 27 NR points this year to be in the game.

My wife had 26 and didn't draw, 27 next year so maybe a slim chance.

This unit have wheel chair ramps?

 

[Togwotee]

No crap. if I had it to do over again I still would, but if you're going to play this game now you better start in grade school.

 

[Justhunt14]

I'll answer your question DIY,
Deer numbers are down, the age class is down, dont get me wrong there are some stud bucks running around out there, but that can be said on any unit, the pauns is not what it built its reputation on.
IMO the late season muzzy hunts on the general units are comparable to the pauns in todays world.

 

[WapitiBob]

No crap. if I had it to do over again I still would, but if you're going to play this game now you better start in grade school.

Or learn how they work so you're not thinking about drawing when it's still decades away.

 

[Stubaby]

I'll answer your question DIY,
Deer numbers are down, the age class is down, dont get me wrong there are some stud bucks running around out there, but that can be said on any unit, the pauns is not what it built its reputation on.
IMO the late season muzzy hunts on the general units are comparable to the pauns in todays world.

Really? Which ones?

 

[ktg]

I'll answer your question DIY,
Deer numbers are down, the age class is down, dont get me wrong there are some stud bucks running around out there, but that can be said on any unit, the pauns is not what it built its reputation on.
IMO the late season muzzy hunts on the general units are comparable to the pauns in todays world.

So would you prefer the Henry's or Oakcreek?

 

[Justhunt14]

Really? Which ones?

Zion, Pine Valley, South West Desert, Beaver, Panguitch, Dutton, Thousand Lake, Fillmore.

 

[Justhunt14]

So would you prefer the Henry's or Oakcreek?

Yes, they pulled some slugs off oak Creek this last year.
it's not a GU but id look at the Book Cliffs before I would look at the pauns

 

[elkhunterUT]

id look at the Book Cliffs before I would look at the pauns

That may be the craziest or most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this website, and that is saying something.

When was the last time you were out on the Book Cliffs?

 

[BrowningRage]

Zion, Pine Valley, South West Desert, Beaver, Panguitch, Dutton, Thousand Lake, Fillmore.

You know that 8 General Season Units have bucks of a higher caliber than the Paunsaugunt.? Let's see some pics of ruttin or winter range bucks then man.! You don't need to say where...

 

[DIY]

Unfortunately, if you have 20 points, that means in the 2024 draw you had 19 points, correct?

Reality Check: There are 46 people ahead of your point pool just for the Archery tag, and with only 2 bonus tags, it'll take 23 years to eliminate all of them. There are 34 ahead of you for a muzzy tag (17 years), and like 220 for rifle (4 tags= 55 year wait). You have to look at that tag as a total lottery win, and should never expect to draw any of them except for the 1 or 3 random tags (which odds are 1 in thousands). However, it looks like you are very close to a Management Tag. 50/50 in 2026 if all things remain the same as this year's draw.

The very first year my hunting partner and I applied, which was when it was only muzzleloader we drew. I believe the year was 2000. So I guess I’ll just hope on being one of the lucky ones that draw with minimal points. Utah might need to look at allowing point holders to will there points to next of kin.. I’m 63 now so I don’t have another 20 years to wait…

 

[wildfin]

I drew with 27nr muzzy 2 years ago. There is not another tag anywhere that I would rather have. You will never see pics of all the giants coming of there , that is top secret.

 

[Tikka]

It took 27 NR points this year to be in the game.

My wife had 26 and didn't draw, 27 next year so maybe a slim chance.

When she draws you better contact @Zim … He’ll be your best source of information…

 

[.338Lapua]

So hoping next year is the year I draw a nonresident Pauns tag. 20 point going into 2025. Any thoughts? What’s the deer numbers looking like?

I am at 22 and I am hoping 2025 is my turn.

 

[270Whatelse]

There are 3rd choice Co hunts that are better than the Pauns.

 

[BrowningRage]

There are 3rd choice Co hunts that are better than the Pauns.

Will CO take his 20 Utah NR Bonus Points.?

 

[Justhunt14]

You know that 8 General Season Units have bucks of a higher caliber than the Paunsaugunt.? Let's see some pics of ruttin or winter range bucks then man.! You don't need to say where...

Not higher, but I'd say equal. I spend a lot time on the pauns, and this year I didn't see a deer that would break 200, I understand just because I didn't see one doesn't mean it's not there. I surely don't know every inch of the unit but I'm quite comfortable with the unit.
And in my own opinion me personally, I would not apply for the pauns. I feel like the quality is way down, and not where it should be for LE unit, but to each his own.

 

[Justhunt14]

That may be the craziest or most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this website, and that is saying something.

When was the last time you were out on the Book Cliffs?

Damn I made the crazy list on MM
About a month ago, seen some stud bucks.

 

[30widephotography]

Not higher, but I'd say equal. I spend a lot time on the pauns, and this year I didn't see a deer that would break 200, I understand just because I didn't see one doesn't mean it's not there. I surely don't know every inch of the unit but I'm quite comfortable with the unit.
And in my own opinion me personally, I would not apply for the pauns. I feel like the quality is way down, and not where it should be for LE unit, but to each his own.

You must not know the pauns that well, this was an incredible year. My client killed a 207 typical and we had a list of 10 deer over 200. But, I guess the pauns is down

I hunted the PV for the enirety of the late muzz hunt and we didn't see a deer break 180 inches, most of the hunters saw and said the same thing. Notice how you didn't see Remi Warren post a giant buck with his late tag he had out there? No general unit comes even close to the pauns. I also have plenty of pictures to back up my claims, Happy hunting!

 

[30widephotography]

Really? Which ones?

None, none will at all dunno where the guy is getting his thoughts and information.

 

[30widephotography]

These are a few bucks from this year. The cactus buck went 240, my clients buck is the buck on the bottom. If you guys want a true pulse on the pauns look at Muley photos and deer be deads instagram, not some guy who really doesn't know what he's talking about

 

[30widephotography]

I drew with 27nr muzzy 2 years ago. There is not another tag anywhere that I would rather have. You will never see pics of all the giants coming of there , that is top secret.

There's a lot of pictures that get posted of the deer harvested, just need to look on social media on the guides that outfit there. North Rim Outfitters, Mossback, Deer be dead, WLH all of them usually even announce that is was on the pauns..

 

[elkassassin]

May We Ask What The Name Of Your Outfitting Business Is?

There's a lot of pictures that get posted of the deer harvested, just need to look on social media on the guides that outfit there. North Rim Outfitters, Mossback, Deer be dead, WLH all of them usually even announce that is was on the pauns..

 

[30widephotography]

May We Ask What The Name Of Your Outfitting Business Is?

Now where's the fun in that?! I like to lerk and hide in the shadows mr assassin!

I don't run one, simply just work for one.

 

[goforbroke]

These are a few bucks from this year. The cactus buck went 240, my clients buck is the buck on the bottom. If you guys want a true pulse on the pauns look at Muley photos and deer be deads instagram, not some guy who really doesn't know what he's talking about

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Wow stud deer. Thanks for the photos.

 

[Aerosith]

These are a few bucks from this year. The cactus buck went 240, my clients buck is the buck on the bottom. If you guys want a true pulse on the pauns look at Muley photos and deer be deads instagram, not some guy who really doesn't know what he's talking about

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Did the buck in the second picture get killed?

 

[30widephotography]

Did the pic in the second picture get killed?

Word on the street he got poached a day before the archery season started..

 

[Tikka]

Word on the street he got poached a day before the archery season started..

Well that’s sh!tty news…

 

[elkassassin]

I See!

Thought you Might Have your Own Going!

Now where's the fun in that?! I like to lerk and hide in the shadows mr assassin!

I don't run one, simply just work for one.

 

[DeerAddiction4]

No crap. if I had it to do over again I still would, but if you're going to play this game now you better start in grade school.

I started in early middle school. maybe I’ll have a chance.

 

[DeerAddiction4]

These are a few bucks from this year. The cactus buck went 240, my clients buck is the buck on the bottom. If you guys want a true pulse on the pauns look at Muley photos and deer be deads instagram, not some guy who really doesn't know what he's talking about

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Do you have a picture of the Cactus buck on the ground? The Muleyphotos buck (beetlejuice or 2nd pic) hasn’t been killed yet? Btw the buck your client killed is Studly! Score?

 

[TeamRedDog]

There are 3rd choice Co hunts that are better than the Pauns.

I agree in units that u can hunt every other year!

 

[mtmuley]

These are a few bucks from this year. The cactus buck went 240, my clients buck is the buck on the bottom. If you guys want a true pulse on the pauns look at Muley photos and deer be deads instagram, not some guy who really doesn't know what he's talking about

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That buck in the second picture looks young to me. Yikes. mtmuley

 

[30widephotography]

Do you have a picture of the Cactus buck on the ground? The Muleyphotos buck (beetlejuice or 2nd pic) hasn’t been killed yet? Btw the buck your client killed is Studly! Score?

I do have a picture I’ll ask if I can share it. The beetle juice buck supposedly got poached a day before the archery hunt started. Thank you I appreciate that! He was 207”

 

[Tikka]

Word on the street he got poached a day before the archery season started..

Is that the buck that Sam Carpenter got lit up over for stating “if only he lived to his potential” ?

 

[30widephotography]

Is that the buck that Sam Carpenter got lit up over for stating “if only he lived to his potential” ?

No that was another deer, the massive deer was supposedly poached the day before the season. The deer your talking about was harvested by an hunter opening morning and scored 209.

 

[Justhunt14]

These are a few bucks from this year. The cactus buck went 240, my clients buck is the buck on the bottom. If you guys want a true pulse on the pauns look at Muley photos and deer be deads instagram, not some guy who really doesn't know what he's talking about

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Nice work on pauns this year.

 

[elkhunterUT]

Nice work on pauns this year.

We’re waiting on your pics of the bucks from the Book Cliffs to compare with 30wides

 

[Justhunt14]

We’re waiting on your pics of the bucks from the Book Cliffs to compare with 30wides

Don't hold your breath

 

[AZGuy]

The Pauns is on fire right now. There is a reason it is next to impossible to get a tag. Dream hunts.

 

[pounder]

Beautiful bucks and what a great picture of that buck just enjoying that big old thicky set of horns. There is some truly talented folks you see lugging them cameras with those lens around there.