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You got any connections Eel?A Coyote will pick you up at the border and smuggle you onto a ranch and back again for a fee. Avoid all the hassle.
Not much of an adventure as it's pretty routine now days, especially coming back north.You got any connections Eel?
Sounds like an adventure....
I'm white Eel.....there's no way they're letting me back in easy....Not much of an adventure as it's pretty routine now days, especially coming back north.
I know of a couple legit free range 260”+ deer so not the second biggest, but a giant none the less!I have pictures on my phone of a 255" buck that was killed in Mexico this year. I know the hunter, he is a great guy. It was not a high fence hunt but who knows if the buck has ever been darted and put on a table. My understanding is it's the second largest free range mule deer ever killed in Mexico. I have been asked to not share the picture so you will just have to wait.
The entire mess in Mexico is disgusting beyond belief, & only getting worse as time goes by !Not much different than the big outfitters in Utah using 20 spotters to find a buck while the hunter is at the lodge.
That’s said like someone who actually hasn’t spent much time down there. I’ve never felt like I was in any danger when I’ve been in Mexico.The entire mess in Mexico is disgusting beyond belief, & only getting worse as time goes by !
I could not afford the outrageous fees, but also will not ever go there for any reason - too dangerous for USA people. Anything goes wrong, you are royally screwed- & no one to
help you !! Not enough $$$ to risk your life or freedom in that cesspool of a country. ???
Jerry Gold - Windsor, Colorado
I don’t agree with any of that, but you are entitled to your opinion sir.The entire mess in Mexico is disgusting beyond belief, & only getting worse as time goes by !
I could not afford the outrageous fees, but also will not ever go there for any reason - too dangerous for USA people. Anything goes wrong, you are royally screwed- & no one to
help you !! Not enough $$$ to risk your life or freedom in that cesspool of a country. ???
Jerry Gold - Windsor, Colorado
Until the last 2 years I'd never considered living anywhere but the USA, I'm not sure 10 years from now Mexico won't be a better place to live. Canned hunts aren't my thing but they aren't the worst thing in the world either.The entire mess in Mexico is disgusting beyond belief, & only getting worse as time goes by !
I could not afford the outrageous fees, but also will not ever go there for any reason - too dangerous for USA people. Anything goes wrong, you are royally screwed- & no one to
help you !! Not enough $$$ to risk your life or freedom in that cesspool of a country. ???
Jerry Gold - Windsor, Colorado
That’s like hiring a prostitute and bragging about how you pulled in the hottest chick around
Did you read the posts? The answer to the “hate” is high fence operations and selective breeding. Literally multiple guys spelled out the answer to your question. But you had to go all Karen on us by calling it hate? Is this how you handle discussions about something you don’t agree with? Are you not accepting of criticism?Why all the Mexico hate?! I went down there and didn't see any high fences where I was at. Sonora was one of the coolest places I have ever hunted. People saying that Sonora is all high fenced is comical. Think there is a lot of jealousy in our hunting community. The public versus private thing is also another thing that I have seen folks make snide remarks as well. I don't understand it.
You've never hunted down there have you?Mexico is no different than Texass. Feeders, supplements, and stock tanks. Shooting gallery for the rich......
Great bucks and thanks for sharing! But the topic was mule deer. So you admit you have no experience hunting mule deer in Mexico but you chose to rip someone else by assuming they haven’t either? I don’t think you’ll see anyone argue about the coues deer hunting.You've never hunted down there have you?
I seriously just laugh at the stupidity of some of the posts. Mexico is a pretty dang big country. I'm sure you can find good and bad all throughout and to be fair I've only hunted Sonora and never could afford Mule deer tags but I've hunted for Coues deer in Mx for almost 15 years.
It is a wonderful place with great people and pretty good hunting. I've been all throughout the northern part of Sonora and have never seen high fences, feeders etc.. I'm sure a few places do it...but not very many.
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What's the difference between a 3 sided fence and an alfalfa field in the middle of 20,000 acres? They hold deer just the same.Great bucks and thanks for sharing! But the topic was mule deer. So you admit you have no experience hunting mule deer in Mexico but you chose to rip someone else by assuming they haven’t either? I don’t think you’ll see anyone argue about the coues deer hunting.
Just because you haven’t seen the ranches etc doesn’t mean they don’t exist. And a lot of the free ranching ranches are buying deer to release on their ranches. Some are fenced on 3 sides so they don’t classify themselves as high fenced. The point is they are there. And that is reason enough for someone to have their thoughts/opinions.
Bottom line if you see a big mule deer buck pic from Mexico and you don’t have the thought if the buck is high fenced or not than you know what they say. Ignorance is bliss.
Can you say the same about that for Wyoming? Colorado? Nope. Texas? Yep. Mexico? Yep!
It's been about 20 years since I hunted deer in Mexico. Back then, high-fence operations were pretty much nonexistent.Great bucks and thanks for sharing! But the topic was mule deer. So you admit you have no experience hunting mule deer in Mexico but you chose to rip someone else by assuming they haven’t either? I don’t think you’ll see anyone argue about the coues deer hunting.
Just because you haven’t seen the ranches etc doesn’t mean they don’t exist. And a lot of the free ranching ranches are buying deer to release on their ranches. Some are fenced on 3 sides so they don’t classify themselves as high fenced. The point is they are there. And that is reason enough for someone to have their thoughts/opinions.
Bottom line if you see a big mule deer buck pic from Mexico and you don’t have the thought if the buck is high fenced or not than you know what they say. Ignorance is bliss.
Can you say the same about that for Wyoming? Colorado? Nope. Texas? Yep. Mexico? Yep!
Well on the elementary level of examples the deer in the mythical alfalfa field can leave at any time and go anywhere he wants to go. The deer in the 3 sided high fence cannot. Oh btw did you know on a lot of the ranches that are fenced on 3 sides the last side is fenced off by the neighbor? So they are unable to leave. Some of the desert bighorn hunts are like this too. The fence is the ocean so they still qualify for B&C….What's the difference between a 3 sided fence and an alfalfa field in the middle of 20,000 acres? They hold deer just the same.
I'm sure there are a few high fenced operations and some that do selective breeding in Sonora but I assure you that is the exception. Have you ever been to Sonora and hunted mule deer?Did you read the posts? The answer to the “hate” is high fence operations and selective breeding. Literally multiple guys spelled out the answer to your question. But you had to go all Karen on us by calling it hate? Is this how you handle discussions about something you don’t agree with? Are you not accepting of criticism?
How is it jealousy? Does your mind twist everything into hate and jealousy?
Oh wait I just saw you’re in Texas. Sorry you know nothing of ethics or morals. Carry on.
Tony thanks for sharing that story. I always appreciate your posts.It's been about 20 years since I hunted deer in Mexico. Back then, high-fence operations were pretty much nonexistent.
The ranch we hunted was west of Caborca & not too far from the Gulf. In fact, we could see it if we're atop a hill. The only fences, which were few, were the 3-strand variety.
I was hunting Coues only, but another guy in camp was after a mule deer. On the 2nd day, I was out with one of the ranch hands & glassing in an area of rolling hills. Instead of a Coues buck, glassed up a big mule deer. Noting the location, we backed on out & went to tell the other hunter where he could find his trophy. He went back there with his guide & nailed it.
But alas, everything has changed. A quick google search shows several outfitters offering hunts on high-fenced properties. It's a shame what the almighty dollar & phallic competition has done.
Please show me what has been posted that is BS? You’re offering first hand knowledge of hunting a ranch that isn’t high fence? Ok, cool. No one said you didn’t. Others posted the high fence animals and you chose not to believe it? We’re you born stupid or did it come to you over time?I'm sure there are a few high fenced operations and some that do selective breeding in Sonora but I assure you that is the exception. Have you ever been to Sonora and hunted mule deer?
Me going "Karen" on people posting BS about Mexico. That's funny. I'm offering my "first hand" experience as I have been to Sonora and never saw any of that but I'm sure that it may be there. Painting a broad stroke over a whole state of Sonora as nothing but high fenced that only do selective breeding is crazy.
This is the mule deer I mentioned. It had a 31" spread.Tony thanks for sharing that story. I always appreciate your posts.
What you experienced in Mexico is still possible today. It just takes a little bit of research and asking the right questions. The Karen’s on the threads all worked up can’t comprehend that the side they disagree with never said it’s all high fenced.
*werePlease show me what has been posted that is BS? You’re offering first hand knowledge of hunting a ranch that isn’t high fence? Ok, cool. No one said you didn’t. Others posted the high fence animals and you chose not to believe it? We’re you born stupid or did it come to you over time?
Dude....why are you so angry?! I'm sure your a barrel of laughs to be around.Please show me what has been posted that is BS? You’re offering first hand knowledge of hunting a ranch that isn’t high fence? Ok, cool. No one said you didn’t. Others posted the high fence animals and you chose not to believe it? We’re you born stupid or did it come to you over time?
Check out the Navajo res buck on a different thread on this site right now, the irrigation pipe is in the picture(mythical, I know). The theory of where a deer might go and the reality of whether it will leave are very different.Well on the elementary level of examples the deer in the mythical alfalfa field can leave at any time and go anywhere he wants to go. The deer in the 3 sided high fence cannot. Oh btw did you know on a lot of the ranches that are fenced on 3 sides the last side is fenced off by the neighbor? So they are unable to leave. Some of the desert bighorn hunts are like this too. The fence is the ocean so they still qualify for B&C….
I don’t expect a reply or want one. It’s clear with your craptastic example where your opinion is. Seriously who puts the alfalfa field in the MIDDLE of 20,000 acres?
These guys from Idaho are pure lame or parrot some BS they heard about from some other guy who has never traveled to Mexico or another stateDude....why are you so angry?! I'm sure your a barrel of laughs to be around.
Beautiful buck! Thanks for sharing!
That’s right don’t answer the question. You’re the one that got all butt hurt cuz we called out that if you kill a big mule deer in Mexico likely it isn’t wild.Dude....why are you so angry?! I'm sure your a barrel of laughs to be around.
Come on now SS, not all of Texas is like that nor are all Texans. Leave Troll-state out of this.That’s right don’t answer the question. You’re the one that got all butt hurt cuz we called out that if you kill a big mule deer in Mexico likely it isn’t wild.
Mexico and Texas, two places where you kill your pets and call it hunting.
"Likely isn't wild"? It seems like you're just making this up.That’s right don’t answer the question. You’re the one that got all butt hurt cuz we called out that if you kill a big mule deer in Mexico likely it isn’t wild.
Mexico and Texas, two places where you kill your pets and call it hunting.
Of course not all of Texas is like that but it is the state to go if one chooses to shoot tame animals ?Come on now SS, not all of Texas is like that nor are all Texans. Leave Troll-state out of this.
Carry on.Of course not all of Texas is like that but it is the state to go if one chooses to shoot tame animals ?
Ok, just move on , most people are jealous of Texas because it’s a private land state , so they bad mouth it because they are to poor to hunt a place that isn’t a welfare stateOf course not all of Texas is like that but it is the state to go if one chooses to shoot tame animals ?
As a Texan, I wish it was less private. Grew up in NM and miss all the BLM/public land.Ok, just move on , most people are jealous of Texas because it’s a private land state , so they bad mouth it because they are to poor to hunt a place that isn’t a welfare state
Mexico is great place with lots of ranch’s bigger than lot of hunting units in the western states , fortunately it’s private land and managed, and trophy deer take time to mature
moral is if your hunting on welfare don’t bad mouth someplace you’r coveting because you’re on state support
You'd better believe when I glassed up that stud at less than 300 yards, I was wishing I had a mule deer permit in my pocket instead of one for a Coues deer. But those permits were too rich for me.Beautiful buck! Thanks for sharing!
That’s right don’t answer the question. You’re the one that got all butt hurt cuz we called out that if you kill a big mule deer in Mexico likely it isn’t wild.
Mexico and Texas, two places where you kill your pets and call it hunting.
You don’t have the money to hunt Mexico mule and nor have you ever been. Cracks me up how this goofball talks $hit about Sonora and has never hunted it.That’s right don’t answer the question. You’re the one that got all butt hurt cuz we called out that if you kill a big mule deer in Mexico likely it isn’t wild.
Mexico and Texas, two places where you kill your pets and call it hunting.
you are awful mouthy for a short timer.....You don’t have the money to hunt Mexico mule and nor have you ever been. Cracks me up how this goofball talks $hit about Sonora and has never hunted it.
I’m mouthy to idiots that spew drivel!you are awful mouthy for a short timer.....
Ok, just move on , most people are jealous of Texas because it’s a private land state , so they bad mouth it because they are to poor to hunt a place that isn’t a welfare state
Mexico is great place with lots of ranch’s bigger than lot of hunting units in the western states , fortunately it’s private land and managed, and trophy deer take time to mature
moral is if your hunting on welfare don’t bad mouth someplace you’r coveting because you’re on state support
Well....I think we may have found the answer to the "why all the Texan hate" thread...You don’t have the money to hunt Mexico mule and nor have you ever been. Cracks me up how this goofball talks $hit about Sonora and has never hunted it.
"Tame" animals exist anywhere pressure is low, coincidently so do large bucks. Sounds like sour grapes.Of course not all of Texas is like that but it is the state to go if one chooses to shoot tame animals ?
Yes the mouthy welfare recipients hide behind their keyboards, and don’t even list their home state ! By welfare I refure to federal and BLM land that states reserve for residents that we the taxpayers foot the bill ! Yet are denied but for limited draws , yet while hunting on our land they choose to bad mouth states and contries they can’t afford to go toI’m mouthy to idiots that spew drivel!
yep....you're Texan to the boneYes the mouthy welfare recipients hide behind their keyboards, and don’t even list their home state ! By welfare I refure to federal and BLM land that states reserve of residents that we the taxpayers foot the bill ! Yet are denied but for limited draws , yet while hunting on our land they choose to bad mouth states they can’t afford
You're hiding behind the same keyboard as the rest of us, I'm from Idaho. You can buy a tag in my state OTC every year and come hunt public land that we all pay taxes on. Why don't you?Yes the mouthy welfare recipients hide behind their keyboards, and don’t even list their home state ! By welfare I refure to federal and BLM land that states reserve of residents that we the taxpayers foot the bill ! Yet are denied but for limited draws , yet while hunting on our land they choose to bad mouth states they can’t afford
Yes the mouthy welfare recipients hide behind their keyboards, and don’t even list their home state ! By welfare I refure to federal and BLM land that states reserve of residents that we the taxpayers foot the bill ! Yet are denied but for limited draws , yet while hunting on our land they choose to bad mouth states they can’t afford
It may not be a recreational activity for them but much of Mexico is devoid of lage game animals according to a coworker who is from there and returns often to visit the small ranch he grew up on in a very sparsely populated part of the country many are killed and eaten by hungry folks.This thread is hilarious. 26% of the population of Sonora lives in poverty. Most ranches, like many in the US, are basically scraping by. High fencing these ranches is not a practical reality. Do some do it? Sure, probably those with hunting managed by Americans. However, at nearly 70,000 square miles (15,000 less than the entire state of Utah), and proportionately about as many people living there, the idea that anything more than just a small portion are high fenced is ludicrous. Hunting is not a sport/recreation for the common citizen/s of Mexico like it is in Utah (and other states). That means that deer and other game is effectively not hunted, except by foreigners. Can you imagine how big some of the deer would be if hunting deer was cut back by 90% in Utah and other states in the US (assuming that 10% is the number of foreign hunters hunting Sonora, which is probably less than that)?
Yeah, we'd see some monsters.
Psssshh did you not watch the 40 min video on R2? Utah is cranking out the monsters and they don’t have to high fence them full of steroids either!!This thread is hilarious. 26% of the population of Sonora lives in poverty. Most ranches, like many in the US, are basically scraping by. High fencing these ranches is not a practical reality. Do some do it? Sure, probably those with hunting managed by Americans. However, at nearly 70,000 square miles (15,000 less than the entire state of Utah), and proportionately about as many people living there, the idea that anything more than just a small portion are high fenced is ludicrous. Hunting is not a sport/recreation for the common citizen/s of Mexico like it is in Utah (and other states). That means that deer and other game is effectively not hunted, except by foreigners. Can you imagine how big some of the deer would be if hunting deer was cut back by 90% in Utah and other states in the US (assuming that 10% is the number of foreign hunters hunting Sonora, which is probably less than that)?
Yeah, we'd see some monsters.
If the trailcam ban goes into effect, Chag is screwed. Seems that was his only way of hunting. Still can’t believe I watched 42 mins of a dude posing with another dude’s deer.Psssshh did you not watch the 40 min video on R2? Utah is cranking out the monsters and they don’t have to high fence them full of steroids either!!
jeezus.....it only took me 4 minutes to watch the whole thing....If the trailcam ban goes into effect, Chag is screwed. Seems that was his only way of hunting. Still can’t believe I watched 42 mins of a dude posing with another dude’s deer.
It may not be a recreational activity for them but much of Mexico is devoid of lage game animals according to a coworker who is from there and returns often to visit the small ranch he grew up on in a very sparsely populated part of the country many are killed and eaten by hungry folks.
You miss the point that the deer have not been managed there for many years because they had little recreational value, thus they were a food source.
The parts of Mexico that have huntable populations of mule deer are probably quite small, and even though the country is very poor, rich landowners are probably the same as here, they want to be richer (not meant in a bad way) thus will supply what the demand is....in this case big deer in an easy too hunt environment. As long as people are willing to pay the price it will go up and the product will be exploited.
Only if people aren't willing to pay the price for a canned opportunity will the demand and the existence diminish.
Last trip to Mexico I took with my girls ( beach not hunting) I felt safer there then the overnight layover we had to do in LA..That’s said like someone who actually hasn’t spent much time down there. I’ve never felt like I was in any danger when I’ve been in Mexico.
northern Mexico like much of southern USA in the 20th century was desimmated by screwworm, cattle and wildlife where pretty much suffering till Mexico and the United States figured out how to eradicate them in a joint effort, since the 1970’s the mule deer and white tail has rebounded to huntable trophy levelsIt may not be a recreational activity for them but much of Mexico is devoid of lage game animals according to a coworker who is from there and returns often to visit the small ranch he grew up on in a very sparsely populated part of the country many are killed and eaten by hungry folks.
You miss the point that the deer have not been managed there for many years because they had little recreational value, thus they were a food source.
The parts of Mexico that have huntable populations of mule deer are probably quite small, and even though the country is very poor, rich landowners are probably the same as here, they want to be richer (not meant in a bad way) thus will supply what the demand is....in this case big deer in an easy too hunt environment. As long as people are willing to pay the price it will go up and the product will be exploited.
Only if people aren't willing to pay the price for a canned opportunity will the demand and the existence diminish.
screw worms or Texans would be a tough choice......
Sorry, I agree to disagree. Mexico is basically an unarmed country except for the Narcos. My wife is Mexican and gun ownership is non-existence except for those with financial and political resources. It took me YEARS to get her on the same page as me about gun rights, and the right to bear arms for family/self preservation. Furthermore, the mass populations live in cities, and do not have the ability (like our poachers to go poach animals off of ranchers properties. Hermosillo alone has 900,000 of the 2.9 million.
Now, as I am in the process of building a home in baja and getting my dual citizenship, I have to figure out how I can gain financial/political resources.
That's a lot of spear chuckers... Yes, there is probably some poaching on small properties near pueblos. But, the hunting ranches that are hunted commercially range from 6,000 to 60,000 acres. I would bet my last nickel the last time they had a poaching problem on them was 50+ years ago. Furthermore, the typical low-fence cattle ranch hunted takes less than 10 deer a year from it, and some far fewer. Far less than a typical general season unit, and less than most limited entry units. Point being, when you limit hunting, age class gets older. Older deer are bigger deer. You don't need high fences/breeding/corn flickers to get older deer, however it does short cut the process. Thus, most ranches are low fence hunting operations that take a few mature animals each year, which in turn keeps fat-cat American hunters happy.
This and another study I read speak to the sustainability of ranches as deer management areas and deer as a resource. If you read it (not exciting stuff) it speaks to both heavy subsistence hunting and poaching. I do fully understand through the same coworker that most of the population is unarmed and those that do have guns don't have ammo for it.
I'd imagine if one wants to poach or subsitence hunt you'd find a way. Even in Mexico. It's probably very regional. But if there is deer to eat I'd bet that folks are eating them.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. While it may be wrong it doesn’t matter. Because after all we are talking about Mexico here.That's a lot of spear chuckers... Yes, there is probably some poaching on small properties near pueblos. But, the hunting ranches that are hunted commercially range from 6,000 to 60,000 acres. I would bet my last nickel the last time they had a poaching problem on them was 50+ years ago. Furthermore, the typical low-fence cattle ranch hunted takes less than 10 deer a year from it, and some far fewer. Far less than a typical general season unit, and less than most limited entry units. Point being, when you limit hunting, age class gets older. Older deer are bigger deer. You don't need high fences/breeding/corn flickers to get older deer, however it does short cut the process. Thus, most ranches are low fence hunting operations that take a few mature animals each year, which in turn keeps fat-cat American hunters happy.
Does your wife have any tamale recipes you could share?Sorry, I agree to disagree. Mexico is basically an unarmed country except for the Narcos. My wife is Mexican and gun ownership is non-existence except for those with financial and political resources. It took me YEARS to get her on the same page as me about gun rights, and the right to bear arms for family/self preservation. Furthermore, the mass populations live in cities, and do not have the ability (like our poachers to go poach animals off of ranchers properties. Hermosillo alone has 900,000 of the 2.9 million.
Now, as I am in the process of building a home in baja and getting my dual citizenship, I have to figure out how I can gain financial/political resources.
they don't work with roadkill moose and reindeer......Does your wife have any tamale recipes you could share?
A bit of your post touches on my point. There are only small pockets of deer populations. Deer are distributed very differently than the state of Utah (that you chose as a comparison because of area and population).That's a lot of spear chuckers... Yes, there is probably some poaching on small properties near pueblos. But, the hunting ranches that are hunted commercially range from 6,000 to 60,000 acres. I would bet my last nickel the last time they had a poaching problem on them was 50+ years ago. Furthermore, the typical low-fence cattle ranch hunted takes less than 10 deer a year from it, and some far fewer. Far less than a typical general season unit, and less than most limited entry units. Point being, when you limit hunting, age class gets older. Older deer are bigger deer. You don't need high fences/breeding/corn flickers to get older deer, however it does short cut the process. Thus, most ranches are low fence hunting operations that take a few mature animals each year, which in turn keeps fat-cat American hunters happy.
This, we can agree on. It will only get worse. However, it is still a small percentage NOW. And hunting is far more regulated there. FAR more regulated. Most Mexicans don't even know you can legally hunt. I spoke with a guy in Baja whose family owned a big ranch. I tried to tell him how hunting = conservation. The North American conservation model. He completely dismissed it and said these deer are off limits. No further discussion. But again, it is a FRACTION of the current ranches that have high fences.A bit of your post touches on my point. There are only small pockets of deer populations. Deer are distributed very differently than the state of Utah (that you chose as a comparison because of area and population).
Those pockets are slowly becoming more exploited, it's only natural and no different than what our states do with herds. Mule deer are at an all time high in popularity and they will be rode into the ground. The difference down there is LESS regulation on the landowners than here.
There will be more and more fat cats wanting to kill one of those big bucks and more and more will be engineered for the purpose and with that investment comes fencing them in and eventually cornflickers.... they're already there for sure and as with any business, if your competitors are selling more product.....well you know what's next.
She LOVES tamales. She got me up on a Sunday morning, after having some Margaritas the night before and told me I had to drive her 30 miles for Tamales for breakfast because the ONLY good tamales were made in that town. Believe it or not, tamales are as much a breakfast food as anything else. We actually rarely eat them for dinner. Her typical way is throwing an over easy egg on top, with some sour cream and salsa and possibly a skim of refried beans on top. They take a very long time to make, so usually you can find a little old Senorita that makes batches of them for sale. My wife is more of a tamale finder than a tamale maker. She usually asks around until she finds that Senorita, and makes regular purchases. BTW - Tamales can be wrapped with corn, but the better tamales are wrapped with banana leaves. My wife is from Southern Mexico, so she really tries for the banana leaf ones although they are hard to come by. She'll eat either one though.Does your wife have any tamale recipes you could share?
Dang! It’s very hard to get good tamales up here in Alaska. I suppose if one could that might just make it paradise ?She LOVES tamales. She got me up on a Sunday morning, after having some Margaritas the night before and told me I had to drive her 30 miles for Tamales for breakfast because the ONLY good tamales were made in that town. Believe it or not, tamales are as much a breakfast food as anything else. We actually rarely eat them for dinner. Her typical way is throwing an over easy egg on top, with some sour cream and salsa and possibly a skim of refried beans on top. They take a very long time to make, so usually you can find a little old Senorita that makes batches of them for sale. My wife is more of a tamale finder than a tamale maker. She usually asks around until she finds that Senorita, and makes regular purchases. BTW - Tamales can be wrapped with corn, but the better tamales are wrapped with banana leaves. My wife is from Southern Mexico, so she really tries for the banana leaf ones although they are hard to come by. She'll eat either one though.
When I was still golfing, one of my regular playing partners was Mexican -- Patricio Torrez. Like clockwork, he would bring me a dozen tamales every New Year. That was enough to last me a year. He died of a sudden heart attack a couple years ago. I haven't eaten a tamale since I ran out of the last batch from him.Most people who would never hunt Mexico put in for the Antelope Island hunt every year.
When I worked at the sawmill, several of the Mexican workers wives would bring in homemade tamales to sell at lunch time. I never bought any, but they sold out every day.
lol, I like your thinking, i Thought bathroom TP habitat was just confined to below I-10I never could eat one from a Mexican. There must be a law in Mexico against throwing toilet paper in the toilet. At the sawmill, they always threw the toilet paper on the floor behind the toilet. I suggested to management they have a toilet training seminar, but they never did. Disgusting.
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Most everywhere I’ve been has pretty poor plumbing so TP and wet wipes go in the garbage beside the toilet. Pretty gross, but it is what it is. I’m headed back down in the morning for another few weeks South of the border.I never could eat one from a Mexican. There must be a law in Mexico against throwing toilet paper in the toilet. At the sawmill, they always threw the toilet paper on the floor behind the toilet. I suggested to management they have a toilet training seminar, but they never did. Disgusting.