Lyman Great Plains and Hawken Renegade Powder

Tikka · Sunday at 12:00 PM

Hello guys, it’s been well over 35 years since I’ve shot either one of these guns… I don’t even remember what powder I use back then although I know it was 90 g by volume… I have a muzzleloader antelope tag and I’m going to use one of the two guns to hunt with…

What powder you guys recommend I start trying?

Bluehair · Sunday at 12:50 PM

Back when I shot my prehistoric front stuffer, I used Triple-7. I also have a can of Pyrodex, so I must have used that too.

You got caps for that thing? Let me know if you need any of that stuff. Might take me a minute to find it.

If I had half your $, I’d buy a modern $400 gun that used 209’s and BH 209. You’ll still have enough money for beer to sight it in.

Tikka · Sunday at 1:59 PM

Bluehair said:
Back when I shot my prehistoric front stuffer, I used Triple-7. I also have a can of Pyrodex, so I must have used that too.

You got caps for that thing? Let me know if you need any of that stuff. Might take me a minute to find it.

If I had half your $, I’d buy a modern $400 gun that used 209’s and BH 209. You’ll still have enough money for beer to sight it in.

Somewhere around here I have caps, like you I just have to find them…

if not I’ll be calling…

Trust me, the modern front stuffer will be along for the ride…

elkantlers · Sunday at 2:08 PM

Those old style muzzleloaders need real blackpowder. If you use pyrodex or 777 or other powders they will work, but you will get hang fires.
I use ff or fff goex BP in my Lyman GPs.

Katoom · Sunday at 2:35 PM

75-85 (90??) grains 777 2F and a squat conical will be in the zone.

100 grains and a roundball should do the job too.

No vote on the pyrodex, too much corrosion.

Of course, black powder is always the historically suitable option.

diablo · Sunday at 3:35 PM

Katoom said:
75-85 (90??) grains 777 2F and a squat conical will be in the zone.

100 grains and a roundball should do the job too.

No vote on the pyrodex, too much corrosion.

Of course, black powder is always the historically suitable option.

Agreed. Those slower twist barrels won’t like a real long (heavy) bullet.

Tikka · Sunday at 4:37 PM

diablo said:
Agreed. Those slower twist barrels won’t like a real long (heavy) bullet.

This is what I plan on using, I don’t even know if they make them anymore…

diablo · Sunday at 5:31 PM

No, they don’t. But maybe TC will fire up production of those again some day.

Katoom · Sunday at 6:38 PM

If your are chasing antelope, try the Hornady Great Plains. Should be easy to find and have a more appropriate name!

Fishslap · Sunday at 8:30 PM

Tikka said:
Hello guys, it’s been well over 35 years since I’ve shot either one of these guns… I don’t even remember what powder I use back then although I know it was 90 g by volume… I have a muzzleloader antelope tag and I’m going to use one of the two guns to hunt with…

What powder you guys recommend I start trying?

I shoot 90gr of 2F triple seven out of my 54 cal Lyman GPR percussion gun with good results out to 100 yards. I’m shooting patched round balls. Never had a hang fire. My GPR has the Lyman tang peep sight, it really helps. Killed a moose and two elk with that setup.

muleyczy · 2024-07-01T05:53:21-0600

I have a .54 cal Renegade and I shoot 90gr of 2F triple 7 with a No excuse 485grn bullet. I used it on an antelope last year.

muleyczy · 2024-07-01T05:54:05-0600

Tikka said:
Hello guys, it’s been well over 35 years since I’ve shot either one of these guns… I don’t even remember what powder I use back then although I know it was 90 g by volume… I have a muzzleloader antelope tag and I’m going to use one of the two guns to hunt with…

What powder you guys recommend I start trying?

What states the Antelope?

Tikka · 2024-07-01T06:09:20-0600

Utah antelope…

Tikka · 2024-07-01T07:50:22-0600

Katoom said:
If your are chasing antelope, try the Hornady Great Plains. Should be easy to find and have a more appropriate name!View attachment 149968

Thats the ticket, I'll be getting these for sure...

BigChiefJ · 2024-07-01T08:26:26-0600

I've had good luck with Pyrodex in my side locks. I typically shoot 80-90 grains by volume with patched round balls.

Bluehair · 2024-07-02T06:05:54-0600

Tikka said:
Somewhere around here I have caps, like you I just have to find them… if not I’ll be calling…

Trust me, the modern front stuffer will be along for the ride…

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Ah, a nostalgia thing? If you dress up like cowboy or an Indian, make sure I get a pic.