Colorado 2nd draw?

[Hatrick]

I was looking but couldn't locate the information- Do they post whats available for the 2nd draw?-Hatrick

 

[marley]

Probably be posted tomorrow. Keep in mind that youth get 100% preference for all the tags so anything even remotely decent will get snatched up by a youth hunter before you’re even in the game.

 

[HntHrdr]

Yep look at last years stuff, youth draw out before anyone so not going to tell you what to do, but probably have a better shot at winning the lotto with the 8 bucks than drawing most tags

 

[Hatrick]

Ok Thanks guys-

 

[Katoom]

Ok Thanks guys-

Yep, spread the word. 2nd draw is a money grab from unsuspecting adults. The suspecting adults no longer bother except for maybe a couple of the unpopular tags that could have been drawn 4th choice in the 1st draw. If you have a kid interested in applying, its worthwhile to put them in.

 

[1989Cohunter]

Crap not this again. Lol

 

[Danny_Ocean]

For the most part, its a youth draw, but, and that's a J_LO in her prime, there are units where you can pick up tags.

 

[Twoshooter]

They also fill all youth choices 1-4 before an adult is looked at. Archery and Muzzy tags you have a better chance.

 

[Ridn9high]

Gonna be some happy youth with the tags on the list

 

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

Definitely some great deer tags on there

 

[HntHrdr]

They also fill all youth choices 1-4 before an adult is looked at. Archery and Muzzy tags you have a better chance.

Eh not really… look at the stats last year youth were still taking most of those tags too

 

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

Yep the youth got lots of archery and muzzleloader tags. Anything that takes more than 1 resident point on that list goes to a youth

 

[HntHrdr]

Yep the youth got lots of archery and muzzleloader tags. Anything that takes more than 1 resident point on that list goes to a youth

Hell even a lot of 0 point tags do

 

[elkmo41]

Definitely some great deer tags on there

Thought there was no such thing as great tags anymore in Colorado? Lots of buzz for a bunch of shot out units.

 

[just_a_hunter]

It’s pretty awesome the youth get put first for a change. This is the only way they can compete with point holders…. Lots of envious adults hate it…

Todd

 

[Mallardsx2]

Those great tags won’t be making the list after this year if the changes go into place they are coming. Kids should take advantage of this opportunity while it lasts.

 

[Thill]

Those great tags won’t be making the list after this year if the changes go into place they are coming. Kids should take advantage of this opportunity while it lasts.

I can't find this info. Can you please post the link or paste the recommendations.
Thanks-

 

[Mallardsx2]

You'll have to watch the video.

They are still working on the memo summarizing the recommendations. Once it is finalized, it will be posted on both the Engage CPW and CPW Commission webpages. That should be around July 8th.

You can watch the meeting here:

 

[diablo]

Could someone rank the best deer tags on the list so I know which to apply my kids for?!

 

[Mallardsx2]

Could someone rank the best deer tags on the list so I know which to apply my kids for?!

DE03401A would be a great deer tag.
EE041O1A would be a great elk tag.

Those should be 100% draw as well!

 

[ORIONTHEHUNTER]

Thought there was no such thing as great tags anymore in Colorado? Lots of buzz for a bunch of shot out units.

Yep Colorado sucks stop applying. They are great tags for youth. There are a couple on there that are still pumping out booners that aren't internet famous

 

[oldmossback]

I can't find this info. Can you please post the link or paste the recommendations.
Thanks-

Colorado Parks and Wildlife

Colorado Parks and Wildlife is a nationally recognized leader in conservation, outdoor recreation and wildlife management. The agency manages 42 state parks, all of Colorado's wildlife, more than 300 state wildlife areas and a host of recreational programs. CPW issues hunting and fishing...

cpw.state.co.us

half way down the page

 

[Thill]

Colorado Parks and Wildlife

Colorado Parks and Wildlife is a nationally recognized leader in conservation, outdoor recreation and wildlife management. The agency manages 42 state parks, all of Colorado's wildlife, more than 300 state wildlife areas and a host of recreational programs. CPW issues hunting and fishing...

cpw.state.co.us

half way down the page

I still don't see anywhere on this page that says changes are coming to the reissue list after this year.

But I did listen to the video that Mallard posted and it was 30ish minutes long. Good info, not sure what they want to do or if they know what direction they will move, but it sounds like the more common concept was not to return the license fees and figure out the best path to reissue it.

It opened my eyes on why some people return the tags, and would hate to have someone punished after years of applying for some tag and then only to have them not use it or be able to at least restore the preference points that they had to get the tag.

I never really thought about things like a broken leg or your wife or kid in a horrible accident, death of immediate family member, etc a few days prior to your hunt that would add salt on a wound if you couldn't turn the tag back in or couldn't get your points back.

 

[Mallardsx2]

I still don't see anywhere on this page that says changes are coming to the reissue list after this year.

But I did listen to the video that Mallard posted and it was 30ish minutes long. Good info, not sure what they want to do or if they know what direction they will move, but it sounds like the more common concept was not to return the license fees and figure out the best path to reissue it.

It opened my eyes on why some people return the tags, and would hate to have someone punished after years of applying for some tag and then only to have them not use it or be able to at least restore the preference points that they had to get the tag.

I never really thought about things like a broken leg or your wife or kid in a horrible accident, death of immediate family member, etc a few days prior to your hunt that would add salt on a wound if you couldn't turn the tag back in or couldn't get your points back.

Like I said: They are still working on the memo summarizing the recommendations. Once it is finalized, it will be posted on both the Engage CPW and CPW Commission webpages. That should be around July 8th.

 

[Deercy]

I was under the impression

Thought there was no such thing as great tags anymore in Colorado? Lots of buzz for a bunch of shot out units.

Truth. I thought there weren't any tags worth even wasting a day on. "Wouldn't hunt there if someone gave me a tag".

 

[Triple7]

It’s pretty awesome the youth get put first for a change. This is the only way they can compete with point holders…. Lots of envious adults hate it…

Todd

Yes the youth will draw most all of these tags and that is a good thing.

 

[HntHrdr]

Yet 10,000 adults will still apply haha

 

[lostinOregon]

Does anyone know if NR youth can apply and are they treated differently than residents?

 

[HntHrdr]

Youth, no matter residency receive 100% preference on choices 1-4, so waste of money for adults to put in

 

[texbowhunter]

Might be a dumb question, but if you draw a second choice tag in the primary draw can you still apply for the secondary draw for the same species and just return your second choice tag you draw in the secondary?

Just curious because there could be a scenario where you draw your second choice and your first choice has some tags available in the secondary draw.

Probably doesn’t matter since it sounds like the youth are going to get all of these tags anyways. Thanks!

 

[brutus54]

Might be a dumb question, but if you draw a second choice tag in the primary draw can you still apply for the secondary draw for the same species and just return your second choice tag you draw in the secondary?

Just curious because there could be a scenario where you draw your second choice and your first choice has some tags available in the secondary draw.

Probably doesn’t matter since it sounds like the youth are going to get all of these tags anyways. Thanks!

If I understand you right, if you already have a tag with your name on it, it won’t even let you apply for another tag for the same species. If they’re both A tags.

 

[txhunter58]

Might be a dumb question, but if you draw a second choice tag in the primary draw can you still apply for the secondary draw for the same species and just return your second choice tag you draw in the secondary?

Just curious because there could be a scenario where you draw your second choice and your first choice has some tags available in the secondary draw.

Probably doesn’t matter since it sounds like the youth are going to get all of these tags anyways. Thanks!

You can apply for a tag in the secondary ONLY if you returned the tag you drew first. And since youth will get all the good tags, you would prob end up with no tag.

The one exception to this would be if you drew a B or C tag in the first draw .

 

[oldmossback]

I still don't see anywhere on this page that says changes are coming to the reissue list after this year.

But I did listen to the video that Mallard posted and it was 30ish minutes long. Good info, not sure what they want to do or if they know what direction they will move, but it sounds like the more common concept was not to return the license fees and figure out the best path to reissue it.

It opened my eyes on why some people return the tags, and would hate to have someone punished after years of applying for some tag and then only to have them not use it or be able to at least restore the preference points that they had to get the tag.

I never really thought about things like a broken leg or your wife or kid in a horrible accident, death of immediate family member, etc a few days prior to your hunt that would add salt on a wound if you couldn't turn the tag back in or couldn't get your points back.

totally agree, life changes in a instant

 

[1989Cohunter]

DE03401A would be a great deer tag.
EE041O1A would be a great elk tag.

Those should be 100% draw as well!

I’d put any deer tag for 33 on that list too.

 

[MUZZLELOADER_MULEY_FREAK]

Ok question for all the experts. How is there leftover tags in the second draw that I put both my kids in first choice in the first draw that they didn’t draw.

 

[1989Cohunter]

Ok question for all the experts. How is there leftover tags in the second draw that I put both my kids in first choice in the first draw that they didn’t draw.

Because people either turned their tags back in for whatever reason. Or they couldn’t pay for them.

 

[mlycrzy]

Someone remind me…do they go through all 4 choices for each applicant before moving to the next?

 

[texbowhunter]

You can apply for a tag in the secondary ONLY if you returned the tag you drew first. And since youth will get all the good tags, you would prob end up with no tag.

The one exception to this would be if you drew a B or C tag in the first draw .

If I understand you right, if you already have a tag with your name on it, it won’t even let you apply for another tag for the same species. If they’re both A tags.

Thanks for the clarification! I thought that might be the case, but wanted to check first

 

[llama packer]

It’s pretty awesome the youth get put first for a change. This is the only way they can compete with point holders…. Lots of envious adults hate it…

Todd

I don't think many people have a problem with the tags going to youth. The problem most people have is paying $8 to apply and there is no way you will ever get a tag, zero percent. Its misleading and theft by the DOW. Apply for something that does not exist.