DeerMadness
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Tags are high enough. I didn't check fishing license, but why double the hunt license price ?
It's only 3% inflation. Just ask Biden.It's Beyond F'N Belief!
The GOUGING Going On & They're All Bending Everybody Over On Everything!
And Not A Little Bit!
All The F'N Way!
Yea no one cares because it's not wyoming. If this was a wyo thread it would have 300 hate comments alreadyI'm sure that it's somehow Wyoming residents that caused it!
Well… Wyoming does a great job of making up stupid laws.I'm sure that it's somehow Wyoming residents that caused it!
Help me out: name one "stupid" Wyoming law that hurts Wyoming.Well… Wyoming does a great job of making up stupid laws.
Letting buzz be a resident…Help me out: name one "stupid" Wyoming law that hurts Wyoming.![]()
Are you freaking kidding me??
What a bunch of BS!!!
Now I can't apply there anymore. Can't afford it.
Maybe get another job.
Nah. I wasn't applying there anyway.
No question I've been tough on the wildlife here, and whining NR's.Letting buzz be a resident…
Well, Utah pretty much doubled the nonresident quota on general deer tags too, so why not raise the price of license to go with it?
They came close to doubling most all general deer tags.Why did they double them ? And if they doubled them why double the fee ? Give residents more tags not NRs.
Yes, depending on when you buy license you don't have to buy it some years to apply. And for all the comments about prices for NRs in most states aren't a big deal- that's not true. There is no reason in Hell they need to cost 1000.00 or so for a NR Elk tag. 700 for a deer tag. Etc....Some of us have the money and it's not going to kill us, but that doesn't make it ok.They came close to doubling most all general deer tags.
Honestly, I didn’t notice the doubling of the license fee. I had already bought my license and it was still valid from last year.
Not cheaper than Wyoming (doesn't have one) or Montana that's like $15 or something for base hunting.Utah had and still has the cheapest NR hunting license in the west.
If the license is $120 and it's good for 2 years try to beat that deal. UT will still be one of the cheapest states you apply for. hell I pay over half that for a resident license here.To anyone who says it is ok to double the license - I don't agree. Raise a tag if you want. Go look at Utah Bull Elk , Moose and Premium Deer - you are full of it Togwotee. Very expensive. But I never whined about that. But raising the license ? Make a hunt and hunt/ fish combo that high ?
You can always just hunt your own state and save money.There is no reason in Hell they need to cost 1000.00 or so for a NR Elk tag. 700 for a deer tag
If money is the issue, that's what cheap resident tags are for.Yes, depending on when you buy license you don't have to buy it some years to apply. And for all the comments about prices for NRs in most states aren't a big deal- that's not true. There is no reason in Hell they need to cost 1000.00 or so for a NR Elk tag. 700 for a deer tag. Etc....Some of us have the money and it's not going to kill us, but that doesn't make it ok.
I'm not poor Buzz.If money is the issue, that's what cheap resident tags are for.
you need a license to apply, not to huntSo in Utah you even have to buy a license to purchase a bonus point ?
If a person times it right when they buy a hunting license they could hunt two years on one licenseyou need a license to apply, not to hunt
Yes I knew that and have done so. I thought I could purchase a bonus point and not apply for a drawing without buying a license. Just found out I was wrong.If a person times it right when they buy a hunting license they could hunt two years on one license
Never said you were, but you're implying that NR license fees are too high.I'm not poor Buzz.
My perspective is the license should not be purchased unless you draw and can use the damn thing. Raise the app fee some and it's more than fair. I never thought the tags was too high to buy or I would be hunting only Res.Never said you were, but you're implying that NR license fees are too high.
My suggestion to people that can't afford the NR fees is to hunt on the cheap in the State they live in.
NR hunting has never been cheap and never will be cheap.
Man could you imagine how terrible your draw odds would be if you didn’t have to buy a license to apply!My perspective is the license should not be purchased unless you draw and can use the damn thing. Raise the app fee some and it's more than fair. I never thought the tags was too high to buy or I would be hunting only Res.
But you aren't wrong Buzz , it takes money to play.
Said it before. I think all application costs should be none refundable, draw or not. That will make people serious about it and give states even more revenue to put towards their programs
sounds like you should boycott these agencies then.Because they all use it so wisely. lol
Give the license hike ideas a break dude. They will just piss the money away like every wasteful, democrat filled and "run", govt agency.
Man could you imagine how terrible your draw odds would be if you didn’t have to buy a license to apply!
If I'm going to snivel it's going to be about the new elk plan making NR points far less valuable.
It was a year or two ago. It went into affect last summer. I actually bought a 5 or 10 year license before they changed the price to lock it in for a bit. Can’t remember when they sent out the email but it was atleast a year ago.Can somebody post a link to the price hike announcement? I haven't been able to find it. That said, I have an Utah lifetime license and haven't used it for 30+ years, because the general season mule deer hunting there hasn't been worth my time.
The license is to increase license sales in the state which is how they give out Pittman Robinson and Dingle Johnson money. That’s why most states went to making you do it, also why they usually sell you a fishing license in the process. It’s worked out for me. I’ve been applying for Rocky and elk for around 20 years but when they started charging for licenses and let NR apply for every species, I started to, and have drawn a primo LE deer and a mountain goat tag that I otherwise would have never drawn if I could only apply for two species.Utah is run by democrats? learning every day.
I agree making you buy a license you aren't going to use seems like a rip off. but they all get their hooks in you somehow, and at the end of the day Utah is still cheaper than most.
The higher fees should make people reconsider their chances in all states. being optimistic is a good thing, being a sucker isn't.
You know gas used to be 50 cents a gallon right?You know it used to be that way, right?
Yes it is. It appears Utah residents aren't as thin skinned as Wyoming residents and don't pay much attention to what the non resident saysThis sure is a much different conversation now that it's Utah raising NR tag fee's compared to the Wyoming forum/post.
One charges $100+/- in non refundable fees per year and the other charges well over $500This sure is a much different conversation now that it's Utah raising NR tag fee's compared to the Wyoming forum/post.
Are you sure about that?Yes it is. It appears Utah residents aren't as thin skinned as Wyoming residents and don't pay much attention to what the non resident says
yesAre you sure about that?
Kind of ironic most of the cry baby nonnresidents in the wyo forum are UT residents
Never said they weren't. Just said the Utah residents weren't as thinned skinned and didn't respond as much to the nonresidents. Your post and @grosventrehunter kind of prove that pointKind of ironic most of the cry baby nonnresidents in the wyo forum are UT residents
Doesnt prove anything that's your opinion.Never said they weren't. Just said the Utah residents weren't as thinned skinned and didn't respond as much to the nonresidents. Your post and @grosventrehunter kind of prove that point
I'm sure those same Utah residents will now be appalled that their state is screwing the NR hunters with the higher license fees. I will be waiting and watching.....Doesnt prove anything that's your opinion.
You have this wrong. It's the nonresidents that do all the complaining. If this was the Wyoming forum the NR would be blaming every little increase on residents. And as far as thick skinned Utah residents go, check out how they handle themselves on other(WY) forums.Yes it is. It appears Utah residents aren't as thin skinned as Wyoming residents and don't pay much attention to what the non resident says
Yes I have 14 points for Deer , and I realize I will have to burn them now on a Utah General Hunt or buy a Muzzy and hope that a less desirable Muzzy hunt gives me a win.States increase prices and more people apply each year as a general rule. Money does not seem to be an issue for many people - people still buying Wyoming moose points for example at $150 annually for a 'chance' to draw a tag you are almost certain to never draw. If Wyoming can charge $150 for worthless moose points when it is clear that you are almost certain to never draw Utah will have no trouble getting people to pay $120 every two years.
You have a right to complain but know that non-resident fees will continue to increase, and tags will generally be reduced for non-residents. I will be burning all my points over the next ten years - if you are just now entering the point game you need to really examine the number of people in line ahead of you and the costs you are facing over the next 10-30+ years.
You know gas used to be 50 cents a gallon right?
Different world. You can actually apply for these things online now in any state you like!
Make it cheap and see what happens to your odds
I get it now. If it's less money more people apply and you guys that spare no cash might miss a few more draws across the Western Hemisphere. I do get that. I do. I'm going to go a new route and see how it pans out. A method that will open up a new dimension.You don’t really get it do ya?
You are correctThis sure is a much different conversation now that it's Utah raising NR tag fee's compared to the Wyoming forum/post.
Sure your going to burn those points in the next 10 years??? The goal post are moving…States increase prices and more people apply each year as a general rule. Money does not seem to be an issue for many people - people still buying Wyoming moose points for example at $150 annually for a 'chance' to draw a tag you are almost certain to never draw. If Wyoming can charge $150 for worthless moose points when it is clear that you are almost certain to never draw Utah will have no trouble getting people to pay $120 every two years.
You have a right to complain but know that non-resident fees will continue to increase, and tags will generally be reduced for non-residents. I will be burning all my points over the next ten years - if you are just now entering the point game you need to really examine the number of people in line ahead of you and the costs you are facing over the next 10-30+ years.
Exactly what I expected from the hypocrites in Utah.You are correct
So to make you Wyoming guys feel at home.
-I will now advocate for a 95/5 split.
-We should ban all NR from Wyoming on all LE deer units because they will shoot the first deer they see.
-All Wyoming NR should be required to hire a guide to access all public land in Utah, as we all know, Utah has badgers, hunting without a guide could get a Wyomingite killed.
Feel better?
We will work on finding a know it all midget to advocate for all these policies like the Wyoming boys have. But folks like that seems common only to Laramie.
Not sure you understand what hypocrite meansExactly what I expected from the hypocrites in Utah.
Not exactly sure what you are upset about. Utah will still welcome you to come and hunt. You can buy a tag every year on just about every unit. Wyoming guys will happily pay large amounts of money to keep the non residents out, so I would think Utah would be attractive to spend your money in. Utah is setup for the deep pocket non resident huntersExactly what I expected from the hypocrites in Utah.
Not sure you understand what hypocrite means
I stopped applying for Utah and gave up with 15 points for about everything there is to hunt in Utah. Unlike some, I stand behind my beliefs and put my money where my mouth is. I hope by dropping out of the game it benefits some other NR hunter.Not exactly sure what you are upset about. Utah will still welcome you to come and hunt. You can buy a tag every year on just about every unit. Wyoming guys will happily pay large amounts of money to keep the non residents out, so I would think Utah would be attractive to spend your money in. Utah is setup for the deep pocket non resident hunters
that's a shame. If you ever start applying again and have any questions reach out i'll give you my 2 centsI stopped applying for Utah and gave up with 15 points for about everything there is to hunt in Utah. Unlike some, I stand behind my beliefs and put my money where my mouth is. I hope by dropping out of the game it benefits some other NR hunter.
You don’t really get it do ya?
To quote Buzz"no one cares"I stopped applying for Utah and gave up with 15 points for about everything there is to hunt in Utah. Unlike some, I stand behind my beliefs and put my money where my mouth is. I hope by dropping out of the game it benefits some other NR hunter.
Let's make a deal. No more of those cult temples in Wyoming and us Wyoming boys will stay out of Utah. Wouldn't that be nice....To quote Buzz"no one cares"
We'd be fine if the gates east of Evanston were on the border.
No one spends more time in Utah, then a Wyomingite
Let's make a deal. No more of those cult temples in Wyoming and us Wyoming boys will stay out of Utah. Wouldn't that be nice....
Does this mean you're not hunting in Wyoming anymore? I already stated I'm staying out of Utah. Asking for a friend....For us.
We'd be able to go to a store, the zoo, a college, or hospital without plates with a cowboy on it.
I'm all for it.
Now put a fence on the Unitas to keep our elk in Utah, and you got a deal
Does this mean you're not hunting in Wyoming anymore? I already stated I'm staying out of Utah. Asking for a friend....
I doubt I will see less Utah plates in western Wyoming this fall.
How many underage wives do you prefer, and little kids. We all know how you cult members like both.I've hunted a grand total of 0 times in Wyoming.
Since we went adult beer, I have zero reason to ever cross the border. I don't do meth. I prefer my strippers have teeth. I prefer my snow not be from Nebraska.
How many underage wives do you prefer, and little kids. We all know how you cult members like both.
Hoss is the one who told me what soaking was. I don’t know if I can ever forgive him for that but I’m pretty sure he’s not in that cult
At least we vote the clueless ones out, unlike that Mitt Romey guy. Would that be a glass house?How many Cheney's live in Wyoming?
Glass houses
Man that coulda been anything!!!Saw a headline about "Utah curl"
Swear to God, I scrolled by, drank a beer, contemplated my life's choices, then went back to look.
Imagine the relief that it was a woman's hairstyle.
There are great LE hunts you can draw as an NR with 15 points, you are really just missing out at this point.I stopped applying for Utah and gave up with 15 points for about everything there is to hunt in Utah. Unlike some, I stand behind my beliefs and put my money where my mouth is. I hope by dropping out of the game it benefits some other NR hunter.
I actually would be at 17 this year but stopped applying two years ago. I also stopped applying in NM years ago when they cut NR tags and started the outfitter welfare program. If I don't agree with a state I can't complain then turn around and give them my money. That would be like some here (hypocrites) when it comes to Wyoming.There are great LE hunts you can draw as an NR with 15 points, you are really just missing out on great hunts.
At least we vote the clueless ones out, unlike that Mitt Romey guy. Would that be a glass house?
Hoss is the one who told me what soaking was. I
Wow. I learned something today.
Thanks google.
buckle up....Wow. I learned something today.
Thanks google.
You guys don't know what high prices are if I draw a resident elk tag it's over a grandYes, depending on when you buy license you don't have to buy it some years to apply. And for all the comments about prices for NRs in most states aren't a big deal- that's not true. There is no reason in Hell they need to cost 1000.00 or so for a NR Elk tag. 700 for a deer tag. Etc....Some of us have the money and it's not going to kill us, but that doesn't make it ok.