hunterinthefield
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This is a real bummer.
Temporarily or long term?This is a real bummer.
Dang that really sucks!!!! That is the only way I have ever been in. Where did you hear this?Long term as far as I know. The Ute Tribe closed the access.
Where are you guys getting this from? You're probably right but I would love to see some official statement on it.Believe it...it's happening
Any more information? I have my doubts that this is really happening.
That’s the problem with this country. We never finish anything. Here’s another problem coming back up because we didn’t do things right 150 years ago.if i've learned anything from the brandon administration its that a nation's borders don't matter. just cross it and call them racists if they try and stop you
Reservations and treaty’s were the worst path for the Indians and most don’t even realize it. They talk about having their sovereign nation and don’t realize it was just a clever prison. As much as it’s not ok to say and makes me a colonizer , the best thing the tribes could have done was actually assimilate into the United States.That’s the problem with this country. We never finish anything. Here’s another problem coming back up because we didn’t do things right 150 years ago.
I don't know the reason why they did this. What I do know is that the tribe vehemently opposed the otc bison hunt that was designed to exterminate the reservation bison that migrate west in winter. Their concerns were totally ignored and the extermination occurred.
That was reminiscent of the 1870's when goverment policy was to exterminate bison to starve the indians. I sure can't blame the tribe if they are angry. I'm upset too.
To be fair most states treat bison just as bad or worse than Utah. At least Utah has some wild bison.
Hunters pat themselves on the back all the time for restoring the big game herds of North America. It's a travesty that the biggest and formerly most numerous big game animal is still virtually extinct in the wild and is treated mostly like a farm animal.
Didn't UTDWR refund people because the winter hunt was a failure? Heard the buffalo didn't leave the reservation....I don't know the reason why they did this. What I do know is that the tribe vehemently opposed the otc bison hunt that was designed to exterminate the reservation bison that migrate west in winter. Their concerns were totally ignored and the extermination occurred.
That was reminiscent of the 1870's when goverment policy was to exterminate bison to starve the indians. I sure can't blame the tribe if they are angry. I'm upset too.
To be fair most states treat bison just as bad or worse than Utah. At least Utah has some wild bison.
Hunters pat themselves on the back all the time for restoring the big game herds of North America. It's a travesty that the biggest and formerly most numerous big game animal is still virtually extinct in the wild and is treated mostly like a farm animal.
I heard from a Ute co worker that is from that area that just like on the national forest the people using the Ute land disrespected it and left litter and trashed the area's they use. He may have watered it down to a single statement, but from what I see on BLM and National Forest from people now days I can't blame them.
Just like private property. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin it for everyone.
Will be interesting to see how it pans out and what caused it.
If you owned that ground, would you allow the public to cross it? No, you would not. Frankly when I hunted there, I was surprised they allowed it at all.
I wonder if they will create another access point into the south end somehow
TrueOur Broke State/Government Ain't Gonna Do That!
They're Too Busy Wasting Billions Elsewhere On Worthless Causes!
If it has been closed, I would have had a much longer walk for sure but would have still gone on my hunt. This is not the only access to the roadless area. Again, I was more shocked they allowed access at all. Not at all surprised they closed it. We all known how much public ground is land locked because private owners do not allow the public to cross their property. If you owned it, would you allow the similar public access - the answer is no. I appreciate that they once allowed access but understand they can do what they want.So?
If It Had Been Closed You Would Not Of Got In There To Hunt!
How'd You Like That?
If there was trannies or homos being locked out of the land out governor would create the access tomorrow.Our Broke State/Government Ain't Gonna Do That!
They're Too Busy Wasting Billions Elsewhere On Worthless Causes!