2024 Draw is Open

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Got an email tonight, and the deer and sheep apps are open now

 

[Wiszard]

Southern Utah here I come!! LOL

 

[Servehim]

Hopefully the deer points creep isn't as bad as elk was, put in for an elk tag that was 100% last year but wasn't enough this year.

 

[Moe]

Deer creep will be bad. It seems Coues are now all the rage. Great.

 

[AZ4life]

Coues are the rage because all the big muley hunts are that much harder to get tags for, and much harder to find in general units than years gone by. The creep is bad and won't be getting better.

 

[LIK2HNT]

Deer creep will be bad. It seems Coues are now all the rage. Great.

As if last years hung point leap was not bad enough.

 

[Largebull]

Last chance , Tuesday at % PM . I am in with 31 res . points for Sheep. Its gonna happen cause I have a 3 week trip for elk planned for Wyoming. .................BULL!

 

[ElmerFudd]

I had to apply for 13B this year with max points, as a nonresident... Sort of hoping I don't draw this year for more time on the Henry Mountains, but I'll take it if I draw it. I'm close enough to retirement that I'll blow off work if I must Same goes for sheep

 

[Duckhunterbrad]

I made my donation. I'm in no man's lands with 10 or more points for all species...

 

[Bow&Arrow]

My son and I put in for 3A/3C archery deer tags. We have 19 points. Hopefully we will draw.

 

[money]

My son and I put in for 3A/3C archery deer tags. We have 19 points. Hopefully we will draw.

Resident or nonresident? and 19 points total?

 

[Bow&Arrow]

My apologies. I'm new on here. We are nonresidents with 19 points each.

 

[money]

My apologies. I'm new on here. We are nonresidents with 19 points each.

With 19 points each you should probably draw that tag. Was that your only choice on the application? If so, I would bet you draw it.

 

[CouesFanatic]

ouch, how many points does that hunt take now?

 

[Bow&Arrow]

We actually put in for 13B as our first choice, but barring some miracle, we have no chance of drawing that one. 3A/3C is our second choice. It is my understanding that both the first and second choices count, but if I got that wrong, I'd like to find that out.

 

[Bow&Arrow]

ouch, how many points does that hunt take now?

I don't know. It looks like the number of points needed in the nonresident max point draw keeps going up every year.

 

[Bwht4x4]

We actually put in for 13B as our first choice, but barring some miracle, we have no chance of drawing that one. 3A/3C is our second choice. It is my understanding that both the first and second choices count, but if I got that wrong, I'd like to find that out.

Yeah, you got that wrong. Your 13b choice won't even be looked at since you're in the max pt draw for 3a/3c achery, which only took 11 pts for a NR to draw last year. Hope you have point guard.

 

[yotebuster17]

My son and I put in for 3A/3C archery deer tags. We have 19 points. Hopefully we will draw.

 

[money]

Yeah, you got that wrong. Your 13b choice won't even be looked at since you're in the max pt draw for 3a/3c achery, which only took 11 pts for a NR to draw last year. Hope you have point guard.

bwht4x4 is correct. You should be in the max pool with 19 points each which means you should get your second choice without your first choice even being considered.

 

[Bow&Arrow]

Thanks guys. We'll be totally happy with 3A/3C tags if we draw them.

 

[Bwht4x4]

Thanks guys. We'll be totally happy with 3A/3C tags if we draw them.

Being that you're 7 points above what is needed to draw this year, I'd start planning for you hunt and shooting your bows! Have a good hunt!

 

[longranger]

Being that you're 7 points above what is needed to draw this year, I'd start planning for you hunt and shooting your bows! Have a good hunt!

It will go up some since they dropped tag numbers but definitely not that high. Good news is, you'll basically have 3c to yourself for a few weeks chasing bucks. You'll have a good time.

 

[DanMan]

Can't wait to hear how your hunt goes

 

[Bow&Arrow]

If we don't draw 3A/3C archery deer tags this year, and if the tag quota remains the same, it will take 20 or more nonresident points to draw 3A/3C archery deer tags next year in the max points drawing. If we do draw, according to one of the guys who personal messaged me and who is waiting in mine behind us, it is going to take a least 17 or more nonresident points next year.

 

[LIK2HNT]

Wonder how many points archery Kiabab takes this year.

 

[mdbrown]

I noticed it took 20 points last year for
Nr 12-a west side early hunt.
In the 20% draw. That seems like a lot to me for the early hunt. All though, I don’t know much about that hunt

 

[oilcan]

I noticed it took 20 points last year for
Nr 12-a west side early hunt.
In the 20% draw. That seems like a lot to me for the early hunt. All though, I don’t know much about that hunt

Here’s my opinion on it.
With 20 points you will never catch up and draw a bonus late tag or strip tag and the Random odds are less then 1%. I think a lot of guys are realizing this and using there points.
All the bonus tags for the late hunts have been going to Max point holders, which sucks because I am 1 under max NR.
This year there’s still 74 with max (27)
88 with 26
There are 1241 people with between 20 and 25 points.
With the current late tag numbers most guys with max or a couple under looking to Hunt late or the strip will die, be to old to hunt or just settle for a different hunt.
From what I understand the early hunt can be tuff but I know there are some guides who always seem to kill some big ones.

 

[WapitiBob]

There is no scenario where the computer will look at your 2nd choice without first looking at your 1st choice. It's called 1st choice and 2nd choice for a reason.

The computer tries to fill the 1st choice and if not, it goes to the 2nd choice. Pretty simple. If you want to have a chance to fill the 1st choice in the random side, don't put a sure thing as 2nd choice because it'll be drawn in the Bonus Pass and you'll be out before going to the random side.