manny53
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http://gma.yahoo.com/warning-graphi...immermans-050145810--abc-news-topstories.html
some news outlets will be eatng dirt...
some news outlets will be eatng dirt...
Zimmerman; picture of head
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Zigga, you seem to be doing a LOT of assuming. Your assuming Treyvon knew Zimmerman even had a gun on him.
You got this case all figured out dont ya tough guy?
Let me ask you this, if they find Zimmerman not guilty are you going to come on here and apologize for your sorry A$$ assumtions? Didnt think so. You and your buddy Barry either.
GBA
You got this case all figured out dont ya tough guy?
Let me ask you this, if they find Zimmerman not guilty are you going to come on here and apologize for your sorry A$$ assumtions? Didnt think so. You and your buddy Barry either.
GBA
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-12 AT 10:25AM (MST)[p]Actually click on the link that says "graphic image" - here is what you get:
And no, it doesn't prove anything. But, that is why the matter is where it should be now - in the courts, for them to decide.
HOOK 'EM!
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And no, it doesn't prove anything. But, that is why the matter is where it should be now - in the courts, for them to decide.
HOOK 'EM!
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>Zigga, you seem to be doing
>a LOT of assuming. Your
>assuming Treyvon knew Zimmerman even
>had a gun on him.
>
>
>You got this case all figured
>out dont ya tough guy?
>
>
>Let me ask you this, if
>they find Zimmerman not guilty
>are you going to come
>on here and apologize for
>your sorry A$$ assumtions? Didnt
>think so. You and your
>buddy Barry either.
>
>GBA
Posting this thread assumes Georgey was attacked. Give me a break.
>a LOT of assuming. Your
>assuming Treyvon knew Zimmerman even
>had a gun on him.
>
>
>You got this case all figured
>out dont ya tough guy?
>
>
>Let me ask you this, if
>they find Zimmerman not guilty
>are you going to come
>on here and apologize for
>your sorry A$$ assumtions? Didnt
>think so. You and your
>buddy Barry either.
>
>GBA
Posting this thread assumes Georgey was attacked. Give me a break.
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YELLOWDOG
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>His bloodied head means nothing.
>If some thug with a
>gun cornered me in a
>dark alley, I'd damn sure
>slam his head into the
>curb too. It's not
>rocket science.
It seems like doing that is dangerous to your own health. People get shot and killed doing such things. I have seen or heard no evidence that Trayvon was conrnered, in a dark alley, directly confronted (following someone is not a crime or a threat) but I guess evidence doesn't mean anything. Not saying he is innocent but you sure don't know that he is guilty.
>If some thug with a
>gun cornered me in a
>dark alley, I'd damn sure
>slam his head into the
>curb too. It's not
>rocket science.
It seems like doing that is dangerous to your own health. People get shot and killed doing such things. I have seen or heard no evidence that Trayvon was conrnered, in a dark alley, directly confronted (following someone is not a crime or a threat) but I guess evidence doesn't mean anything. Not saying he is innocent but you sure don't know that he is guilty.
travishunter3006
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YellowDog,
I'm not trying to start an argument or war with you as many do on here, But depending on the totality of the circumstances; Following someone may be illegal/threatening.
ie; Your wife (I'm just assuming you are married) is walking down the street from her friends house with your kid (assuming you have a kid) and a guy in a long Dark coat follows her, stops when she does and seems to be cutting the distance quickly....
Like I said, I'm not looking to start an internet war just showing it from another POV.
I'm not trying to start an argument or war with you as many do on here, But depending on the totality of the circumstances; Following someone may be illegal/threatening.
ie; Your wife (I'm just assuming you are married) is walking down the street from her friends house with your kid (assuming you have a kid) and a guy in a long Dark coat follows her, stops when she does and seems to be cutting the distance quickly....
Like I said, I'm not looking to start an internet war just showing it from another POV.
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YELLOWDOG
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Travis, point taken and you are correct in your thinking that following someone can be criminal. Those circumstances don't appear to exist with the Trayvon case according to most if not all "known" accounts of what happened. I "follow" people nearly every day while talking on my cell phone walking down the street and I am not threatening them or committing a crime. If someone turns on me or tracks me down after I "follow" them and confronts me and then punches me, they have committed the crime not me. And, I have the right to defend myself. A guy following a nearly adult male while talking on his phone (to the police) in and of itself is not threatening. Cutting the distance while following someone is not enough either. I walk faster than most people, maybe I like to jog and am traveling the same direction. Did Zimmerman have on a long dark coat, was he "cutting the distance", stopping when he stopped (I don't get this as being threatening either at least they aren't approaching any more). Like you I am not trying to argue with you. Evidence matters to me and all we really appear to know is that Zimmerman followd him (at least for a while) called the police, something happened and Travon was hot and killed. Zimmerman claims he was confronted by Travon and had his face punched and head slammed on the sidewalk and there may or may not be a witness to this. Too many gaps for people to "convict" him without a trial and assume he is guilty of anyhing other than being perhaps a little stupid and if we are going to make that a crime ...
RELH
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I like the way ziggy comes on here and gives his expert advice that those pictures do not mean nothing. You take those pictures and show them to the jury with the testimony of the witness who saw Martin bashing Zimmerman's head and you got the makings to conclude "reasonable doubt" to most jury members. All you need is one for a hung jury and mistrial.
The head injury on the right side appears to be consistant with being made by a small piece of gravel and the center injury is consistant with a contusion injury of the head striking a smooth hard surface such as asphalt or cement sidewalk. That is consistant with zimmerman's story and of the witness.
A lot of you guys keep coming up with conjecture about what happen prior to Zimmerman getting his head banged on the pavement by Martin. There will be only one person testifying to that and that one person is Zimmerman. Martin is dead and so far no other witness has been produced that saw the beginning of the incident.
RELH
The head injury on the right side appears to be consistant with being made by a small piece of gravel and the center injury is consistant with a contusion injury of the head striking a smooth hard surface such as asphalt or cement sidewalk. That is consistant with zimmerman's story and of the witness.
A lot of you guys keep coming up with conjecture about what happen prior to Zimmerman getting his head banged on the pavement by Martin. There will be only one person testifying to that and that one person is Zimmerman. Martin is dead and so far no other witness has been produced that saw the beginning of the incident.
RELH
>I like the way ziggy comes
>on here and gives his
>expert advice that those pictures
>do not mean nothing. You
>take those pictures and show
>them to the jury with
>the testimony of the witness
>who saw Martin bashing Zimmerman's
>head and you got the
>makings to conclude "reasonable doubt"
>to most jury members. All
>you need is one for
>a hung jury and mistrial.
>
>
> The head injury
>on the right side appears
>to be consistant with being
>made by a small piece
>of gravel and the center
>injury is consistant with a
>contusion injury of the head
>striking a smooth hard surface
>such as asphalt or cement
>sidewalk. That is consistant with
>zimmerman's story and of the
>witness.
>
> A lot of
>you guys keep coming up
>with conjecture about what happen
>prior to Zimmerman getting his
>head banged on the pavement
>by Martin. There will be
>only one person testifying to
>that and that one person
>is Zimmerman. Martin is dead
>and so far no other
>witness has been produced that
>saw the beginning of the
>incident.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
Case closed!
That was easy.
>on here and gives his
>expert advice that those pictures
>do not mean nothing. You
>take those pictures and show
>them to the jury with
>the testimony of the witness
>who saw Martin bashing Zimmerman's
>head and you got the
>makings to conclude "reasonable doubt"
>to most jury members. All
>you need is one for
>a hung jury and mistrial.
>
>
> The head injury
>on the right side appears
>to be consistant with being
>made by a small piece
>of gravel and the center
>injury is consistant with a
>contusion injury of the head
>striking a smooth hard surface
>such as asphalt or cement
>sidewalk. That is consistant with
>zimmerman's story and of the
>witness.
>
> A lot of
>you guys keep coming up
>with conjecture about what happen
>prior to Zimmerman getting his
>head banged on the pavement
>by Martin. There will be
>only one person testifying to
>that and that one person
>is Zimmerman. Martin is dead
>and so far no other
>witness has been produced that
>saw the beginning of the
>incident.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
Case closed!
That was easy.
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bucklover
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Think about it. If someone was banging my head against the sidewalk hard enough to split it open,and I had any means to defend myself, I would be taking advantage of the moment, very quickly. It might only take one more "bang" against the sidewalk to make it where I wouldn't even be awake enough to do anything, but die by someone else's hands. I think I would prefer the "bang" to be coming from me. Read the story about the incident in Arizona. This Zimmerman thing is about 90% racial and political and there's going to be a lot of squirming going on by those that have to make a decision. No matter which way it goes, there's going to be fireworks.
The guy that took the picture also gave an eye witness acount of what happened. He said Zimmerman was on the bottom screaming for help, and judging by the pictures, was getting his head banged against the concrete. Yah, sure sounds like a cold blooded killer to me. Who in their right mind wouldn't shoot somebody on top of them and trying to knock them unconscious or kill them.
Based on everything I have heard and seen up to this point, George Zimmerman was nothing more than a crazed killer on a vendetta. Now the truth is starting to eak out. The racial politics in this country, which our president so eagerly particpates in, are a sad, sad, affair.
Excavator
Based on everything I have heard and seen up to this point, George Zimmerman was nothing more than a crazed killer on a vendetta. Now the truth is starting to eak out. The racial politics in this country, which our president so eagerly particpates in, are a sad, sad, affair.
Excavator
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>His bloodied head means nothing.
>If some thug with a
>gun cornered me in a
>dark alley, I'd damn sure
>slam his head into the
>curb too. It's not
>rocket science.
Who are you kidding Ziggy. If some Disney princess cornered you in a back alley you'd drop to the fetal position and chit your pants.
>If some thug with a
>gun cornered me in a
>dark alley, I'd damn sure
>slam his head into the
>curb too. It's not
>rocket science.
Who are you kidding Ziggy. If some Disney princess cornered you in a back alley you'd drop to the fetal position and chit your pants.
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bucklover
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Think about this, also. If someone was standing close enough to you that you could grab him, and he already had a gun pulled, what would you be grabbing for? It sure wouldn't be his head! It would be the gun in hopes you could stop it from pointing at you. I think Zimmerman was down and getting his head hammered before he ever pulled the gun. Maybe not, but I can't see someone holding onto a person's head if that person is holding onto a gun.
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My guess is 99.999% of all people in their right mind would back away or do whatever it took to be able to walk away from a confrontational armed man yet ziggy would have us believe that him and Trayvon would go apechit on the armed brute and kick his azz! PULEEEAASE!
Trayvon did not know the gun was there (my opinion) and confronted Zimmerman from there Zimmerman was probably also confrontational thinking he was right and knowing he was armed at which point it went south. If those pics are of Zimmerman the night of the attack and assuming the punch to the face is also true then he may have felt endangered enough to justify in his mind shooting Trayvon. Had he not had the gun he most likely would have survived the attack and Trayvon (who was kicking his azz) almost certainly would have. Had he not followed both would be fine. Poor decisions on his part all around but not illegal except possibly for the shooting if there is no reasonable doubt he felt his life was in jeopardy and assuming a fair trial.
Bill
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've
stood up for something, sometime in your life.
- Winston Churchill
Trayvon did not know the gun was there (my opinion) and confronted Zimmerman from there Zimmerman was probably also confrontational thinking he was right and knowing he was armed at which point it went south. If those pics are of Zimmerman the night of the attack and assuming the punch to the face is also true then he may have felt endangered enough to justify in his mind shooting Trayvon. Had he not had the gun he most likely would have survived the attack and Trayvon (who was kicking his azz) almost certainly would have. Had he not followed both would be fine. Poor decisions on his part all around but not illegal except possibly for the shooting if there is no reasonable doubt he felt his life was in jeopardy and assuming a fair trial.
Bill
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've
stood up for something, sometime in your life.
- Winston Churchill
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bucklover
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-21-12 AT 07:47AM (MST)[p]That of course was my point. If my head was in the process of being cracked open, I would have been fearing for my life. Lots of poor choices. Accounts indicate Trayvon was straddling Zimmerman and pounding his head against the sidewalk. If that is the case, at that point, there probably weren't many other options, unless you just wanted to take the chance that all you were going to end up with was a butt whipping. Zimmerman made a choice that will probably ruin his life. They tell you in concealed carry classes that if you ever have to resort to shooting someone, the aftershocks will probably destroy your life. This is a prime example. But those of us who do carry, will probably still carry. For most of us it's to protect ourselves and family, and possibly others. There's a very small chance that we will ever need to, but if we ever do find ourselves in that situation, I know how I would feel if I wasn't prepared to do just that.
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LMAO! If Zimmerman is acquitted, Zigga won't have time to post an apology on here, he'll be too busy looting TV's and stereos and setting his neighborhood on fire!
huntindad4
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No RELH as he already told us, Zigga would walk right up and grab that gun and beat that AZZ!
It goes without saying that he would then go looting.
Bill
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've
stood up for something, sometime in your life.
- Winston Churchill
It goes without saying that he would then go looting.
Bill
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of
ignorance, and the gospel of envy.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've
stood up for something, sometime in your life.
- Winston Churchill
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stinkystomper
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Here's my prediction. zimmerman is going to be aquitted and then the blacks are going to get pissed off, riot, destroy sack and pillage their own neighborhoods and then go shoot some white people to make themselves feel better. I get it. a mother and father greiving over their childs loss and I would do the same. I'm sure the kid was a good kid but where the real problem is, is in the media. The media always turns this into something it isn't. Heck if some black man shot and killed my son I would probably say it was racially motivated to. It just sucks that everyone is turning this thing into something it isn't and causing race issues where they shouldnt be getting brought up anyways. It only fuels the race fires. When is everyone gonna drop the race card?
RELH
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"When is everyone gonna drop the race card?" It will never be dropped as long as you have members of a ethic group that does something stupid, committs a crime, too lazy to apply themselfs and they need a way out to justify their actions or lack of achievment. It will never be dropped when you have the likes of Sharpton and Jackson who make a living strirring the pot.
Obama has failed his office on this last incident and the one before by also stirring the pot with his comments to the general public.
I will put it in a nutshell, there are black Americans who have earned the right to be respected by all others, and there is the "N" word folks who are truly "N" words and will never earn the right to be respected by their own actions. This is a fact for all races and ethic groups.
RELH
Obama has failed his office on this last incident and the one before by also stirring the pot with his comments to the general public.
I will put it in a nutshell, there are black Americans who have earned the right to be respected by all others, and there is the "N" word folks who are truly "N" words and will never earn the right to be respected by their own actions. This is a fact for all races and ethic groups.
RELH
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>Ziggy, I hate to tell you
>this bad news, but you
>were not there also. As
>for your expertise, it sucks
>big time as shown by
>your comments.
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> RELH
Well if Ziggy was not there, he must at least be very close friends with the special prosecutor. He has a whole of of deep insight.
>this bad news, but you
>were not there also. As
>for your expertise, it sucks
>big time as shown by
>your comments.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> RELH
Well if Ziggy was not there, he must at least be very close friends with the special prosecutor. He has a whole of of deep insight.
nontypical
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+1,Stinky.The media drives it.
