Youth Ibex. My 11 year old got a good one.

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Will get some pics soon. Should get in late tonight. 372 yard perfect shot.

Preliminary measurements are 49 3/8" on the long side and maybe 3" shorter on the other side broomed.

What an awesome hunt. Hope we have not used up all our luck.
 
Congrats NMP and kids! Wow NMP, you got some kids that get it done! Is it Zach or another kid? I am excited to see the photos! Very nice!
 
Got some pics and some point will tell the story, but, got to give thanks first.

Cookie2, Came out 2 days early to scout for us and on top of that, when the billy was down he climbed all the way from the bottom to help us haul him out. Now that is a true friend.

ML, my friend from up here went with us about a month ago to show us the mountains and help us scout and learn about the mountains.

The infamous Stinkystomper sent my the first text message that I successfully pulled up on my phone. He sent us the ballistic chart for the gun Zach was shooting (300 win mag). Zach had been practicing at 300 yd, but, the shot was 372 and Stinky sent us the drop on the bullet. Zach did the rest and dropped in a perfect shot and blew up the lungs.

Full story later. Here are some quick pics.

Curtis, if you get a chance post some of yours with the better camera.

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My god that's a monster! And here I am still working when I was suppose to be up on that mountain putting my hands on the animal I will probably never get a chance to touch in my lifetime. I guess I shouldn't complain since I was off elk hunting the last 3 weeks straight. Sorry I couldn't make it down paul. But man what a beast. Great shooting. Tell zack he did a bang up job. Awesome billy, just awesome.




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silly liberals, paychecks are for workers!
 
Tony, I am still on cloud nine. I am real proud of Zach. He dropped that bullet right where it had to go.

The last week or so I have had him go out and shoot 1 bullet a night out of the 300. He was to shoot only 1 bullet and shoot it at the 300 yard target and he did it completely by himself. It paid off.
 
Congratulations Zach! And way to go Paul, you guys and your pics keep grinning all season long. What an awesome ibex..Now it's your elk hunts isn't it? Well, I hope your luck continues.
 
Wow! Big time congrats to both you and your son. I'm sure the memory will last his lifetie. Those animals are so cool.
 
Paul,
Still working on the pics. Try and get them up this evening.
Thanks to Zach and you for allowing me to tag along on this one, I will remember it forever!!
 
Congrats , congrats , congrats....By a long shot this is to me the best post I've seen one here for a long long time.What a trophy , what a hunt.....Can't wait to hear all about it , but thats what it's all about right there.Numbers will be real good , but throw the score out the window cuz my GOD , that is a tremendous billy....By an 11 year old!!! My 11 year old just looked at the pics and pretty much assured me she could do it , her 13 year old cousin killed his first antelope back in Aug.I love all the dads , moms aunt and uncles and really good friends who are passing on our great heritage to our youth....Again congrats on all of it....Larry in Rio
 
wow wow wow what a animal! I look forward to the full story... on my way to your country in the am (4AM) will call from alamo we should hook up for dinner before my rifle hunts that start on the 1st



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Wow! That is an awesome acomplishment! Congrats to you and your boy!

"Whatever you are, be a good one."
- Abraham Lincoln
 
That billy looks un-real. Very impressive animal. Not familiar with scoring and records for these critters. Where is he in terms of record books? I really should not matter. Having an 11 year old take such as a great trophy would score high in anyones book. Zach, way to go and get it done. Your shooting practice really paid off. I really like that. Curious about the loads and data used on that .300 mag. I can't wait to see the other pictures of the hunt and hear the play by play.....Crazyelk
 
FREAKING AWESOME! biggest billy!! ZACH is a lucky boy!! and VERY nice shot! WAY WAY COOL and big congrats to u all!

hope to see more pictures!!!!!!!

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That billy is definatley a jaw-dropper. Looks like two big wagon wheels. Congrats to everybody involved.
 
Holy crap! It just don't get any better than that. Can't believe how jealous I am of an eleven year old kid. Sounds like he shoots better than me, too.
 
Very nice!!!!!! CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!! That is great to see, much luck to everyone else out there.
 
Me's is gonna hit the gym for a few months now that huntin season is over. Me's is gonna put some of that size back on I lost on my elk hunt. Then Me's is gonna stroll right on in to pauls house and take that ibex home with me. Please tell your son not to cry when I do this paul. It will make me feel really bad OK!


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>Me's is gonna hit the gym
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>that huntin season is over.
>Me's is gonna put some
>of that size back on
>I lost on my elk
>hunt. Then Me's is gonna
>stroll right on in to
>pauls house and take that
>ibex home with me. Please
>tell your son not to
>cry when I do this
>paul. It will make me
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Watch below your knees. He can kick like a mule. That and if I let him those horns would be in bed with him at night.
 
When Zach drew this tag we knew that there was some work to be done. We knew from talking to people that had archery hunted the Florida?s Mountains that there was a good chance we would get an opportunity at a quality billy at around 300 yards. We also heard that the mountain was one of the most physical hunts there was.

We spent a lot of time hiking during the summer and that was huge as far as getting us ready physically for the hunt.
We started out shooting some of our smaller rifles, but, Zach said to let him shoot the 300 win mag (keep in mind Zach is still only 11 years old). I let him shoot it and he handled it well.

Besides some shooting during the summer, the final week before the hunt I told him to go out every night for a week and shoot 1 bullet at a target set at 300 yards. He did this completely on his own. He was getting about a 5? group at 300 yards so I was feeling pretty good.

Our first scouting trip, our friend ML came with us about a month before the hunt. Our friend had hunted the Floridas many times and his advice and experience was critical. That morning we glassed up 4 groups of Ibex at over 1.5 miles from the mountain. Zach and I were amazed how they set up lookouts wherever the herds went and how they bounced around the mountains.

Our game plan for the hunt was to carry gear in our packs that would enable us to spend the night on the mountain. The weather forecast called for a 92 degree high so between Zach and I we carried 3 gallons of water, small tent, and minimal other gear. Our buddy Curtis (Cookie2) made the awesome sacrifice to go to the Florida?s 2 days before the hunt to scout.

Our plan for opening morning was for Zach and I to hike up the mountain and Curtis was to go to another vantage point to try to find a monster he had hunted the year before during archery season.

At daylight Zach and I started glassing the mountain before we started the trek up. About 10 minutes from decent glassing light I spotted 2 billies on one of the minor hills below the main mountains. We watched them for a bit and could see that they were working their was North. We made a quick plan to get in front of them. We hiked to where I hoped they may go, but, it did not work out. We had not spooked them, but, we miscalculated where they were going. We hike back to the truck and quickly found them again now with the spotting scopes and 15x binocs on a tripod. There was now 3 billies.

One was snow white and the others were brown compared to him, but, no matter how hard we studied them I could not place one as larger than the other. They were all big. I told Zach if we had a choice he was to take the White one. Curtis and out other friends had told us that the older they got the whiter they got, the dark horizontal stripe got darker and the face got blacker.

They climbed to the very base of the mountain right before the cap rock and settled in the shade. We called up Curtis and told him we were going to put a stalk on them and if he could keep an eye on them for us. He was a pretty good ways off and by the time he got to us they had disappeared into a crack in the caprock. After awhile we decided that the crack opened up all the way to the other side of the mountain and they had crossed to the other side of the mountain or at least that is what we hoped.

Zach and I took off climbing the mountain. When we finally got to the first saddle we went to the back side and I found one in the back side of the crack. They were over 800 yards away. We went back to the other side of the mountain where he could not see us and worked our way in. When we ran out of cover, we crept back to the other side to where I could see a little into the crack. I could not find them. I decided that the safe approach was to wait them out. We found a little rock enclosure to set up. I ranged the bottom of the crack at 360 yards and the bottom before the rock slide to be about 340 yards. We got set in for the long wait.
I called Curtis and told him the situation and he had Tony (Stinkstomper) text me the bullet drop at 400 yards. We decided that Zach had to hold 8? high (Ibex are a small animal so it made a difference). As I was glassing the Mountain I noticed a rock chute inside the crack that went to the top of the mountain and as I studied it I noticed ? the way up there was a dark cave and in it was a billy.
 
I could not believe there was a billy in that cave way above the bottom of the crack. In a vertical rock chute. He was about 70 yards above the bottom of the crack through the mountain. I ranged him at 372 yards and he was staring right in our direction. I am pretty sure he had seen something and was now watching the general direction of where we were. I got Zach set up again and again we waited for him to go broadside. He finally did it and seconds later Zach shot. As I watched in my binocs he dropped 30 yards down the rock chute and then somehow caught himself and came bouncing off the walls of the chute. Once on the bottom I told Zach to put another one in him any where he could.
Zach got off another shot and the billy disappeared. We had quite a climb to get to where we hoped he was and we glassed constantly to make sure he did not get up again.

We climbed up and there he was on the top of the rock slide.

I am pretty sure this was not the snow white billy so that means there are a couple other huge billies still in that area.

With the 50 feed of parachute cord I carried we eased him down the mountain about 100 yards or so to where we could get pictures. That took us almost 2 hours and by that time Curtis joined us for photos, celebrating, and caping. The climb down just about did me in carrying a full body cape, head and horns, one shoulder and all of the gear I had brought up. It was a great feeling.

We got a lot of help from our friends to make it happen. Zach and I just pray that we get the opportunity again to hunt ibex in the Floridas.
 
Holy crap, Paul!! Zach has taken my dream goat!! Unreal.. Congrats to him on making the shot when it counted!! I dont know if I could have looking down the barrel at a billy of that caliber!

If someone offered me a chance at a 400 class bull, or 200 class muley, or that billy, the goat would win hands down.. He's got to be the best ever taken by a youth hunter.

One of the best trophies taken ANYWHERE this year on the whole continent.. Tell Zach I'll need a good guide when I draw my tag one of these days!

What a goat! Congrats, men!

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-01-09 AT 02:28PM (MST)[p]Scotty, Zach and I are still pinching ourselves. We will be walking by each other and we are still high fiveing each other.

When he made that perfect shot I could not believe it. I knew he was nailing the target at 300 yards, but, these were field conditions. Shooting off of packs, wind, 30 degree incline, and of course billy fever.
I could not have made a better shot. At 11 years old he did what I don't think I could have done at that age.
 
Zach,

I am still in awe over your Ibex! That is a very cool critter and a monster to boot! How you ever calmed your nerves at 11 years old to make it count is beyond me? I am thinking your Ibex will score very very high in the book? Please, put your name in there to always remember it by. It is not bragging, but rather giving your animal the highest respect, people should also know who worked hard to take him.

I think those horns are longer than you are tall?;-)

NICELY DONE ZACH!
 
I can't stop coming back and staring in awe at that billy!!
Zach, what I'd give to have had a crack at that bruiser!! You lucky dude!

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Man! Little buddy, that is just plain impressive! You did very well Zach! I love the pics! Please show us the mount when he gets done? Promise?
 
Congrats to the great hunter and proud father. What an accomplishment - sure to be one of the highlights of a long hunting career! Paul you are a gentleman and a good dad, you offered me some help on an elk hunt a couple of years ago and while I did not kill a bull it was very generous of you do so. Can't wait to see the mount. Great job!
 
>HEY PAUL! I get dibbs on
>being the first one to
>see that mount!!


That sounds fair to me. I found out what a lifesize ibex mount will cost. May have to look for dontations. :)

There is the taxi budget for a year or so, but, it is gonna be worth it. To look at that goat every day in my house will be some amazing memories.

Here is one more pic if your not sick of them.

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No, not too many pictures! I enjoy every one of them! I just showed my wife. She is very impressed also. That animal will be awesome all mounted up! You did very very very well guys! Wow!
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-11-09 AT 00:49AM (MST)[p]I think i got a bunch of video of your billy last yr. scouting for my dads muzzy hunt. It was one of the top two billies i saw in 20 days of scouting/hunting. congrats on an awesome trophy of a lifetime. my jaw drops every time i look at your pictures. these pics are a little blurry b/c they are pulled off of video taken from far away. i think it is your billy b/c: you killed your billy on the same ridge i videod this billy at the same time (he moved south when they started to rut), they both have the same left horn broomed a couple inches, they have the same horn configuration, i didn't see to many billies "just like him" in the entire mnt. range.

i saw several similar, however, mid 40's, not almost 50". congrats on killing a monster of a billy. i will look for my footage of him in the day. it is much better. enjoy. if you want pictures of your billy alive last yr., pm me and they are yours. i would even make you a dvd with live footage.

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>I think i got a bunch
>of video of your billy
>last yr. scouting for my
>dads muzzy hunt. It
>was one of the top
>two billies i saw in
>20 days of scouting/hunting.
>congrats on an awesome trophy
>of a lifetime. my
>jaw drops every time i
>look at your pictures.
>these pics are a little
>blurry b/c they are pulled
>off of video taken from
>far away. i think
>it is your billy b/c:
> you killed your billy
>on the same ridge i
>videod this billy at the
>same time (he moved south
>when they started to rut),
>they both have the same
>left horn broomed a couple
>inches, they have the same
>horn configuration, i didn't see
>to many billies "just like
>him" in the entire mnt.
>range.
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>i saw several similar, however, mid
>40's, not almost 50".
>congrats on killing a monster
>of a billy. i
>will look for my footage
>of him in the day.
> it is much better.
> enjoy. if you
>want pictures of your billy
>alive last yr., pm me
>and they are yours.
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Wow!!!! That is amazing footage. That really does look like him and looking at the pics I wonder if he was the white one of the 3 we saw.
Those pics are priceless. Cant wait to show Zach when I get back.
Will send you my email.
 
i forgot to mention one other critical detail. in the last picture you can see on his right side at the apex of his gigantic curl he has a piece of horn broken/missing, just like your sons. it is ever so suttle, however, it is there. what a billy. you and your son must me on cloud 9....
 
>i forgot to mention one other
>critical detail. in the
>last picture you can see
>on his right side at
>the apex of his gigantic
>curl he has a piece
>of horn broken/missing, just like
>your sons. it is
>ever so suttle, however, it
>is there. what a
>billy. you and your
>son must me on cloud
>9....


That is a great pic showing the damage on his horn. Thanks again Kid!
 
113 4/8 is the official SCI score. That puts Zach's ibex at #8 in NM.
I think I will have it entered because it would be pretty cool for Zach to have a book with his name in it.
At the same time we do not get caught up in the score. A old mature animal is what we normally try to find (the more unique the better).
Curious what other folks would do.
Would you enter it? We are leaning towards it.
 
WoW what a goat great job. I would put him in the book thats a once in a lifetime hunt
 
I'd put him in the book. Thats a great animal! Thats a great gesture by Kid also with the video footage. Who is going to do your taxi work?
-Raptor
 
Congrats to Zach. I have a question. Are the Ibex from NM or were they transplanted, and if so from where?

Thanks.

Joe E Sikora
 
What an inspiration! Great job by your team, culminated by a great shot by your son. Since you asked for opinions about putting an animal in the book... I think you should wait a while until your son is old enough to decide that one. The important thing is that you had a great experience that none of you will ever forget. When you are long gone, he will still remember that day like it was yesterday. To me, that is the greatest trophy of all.

I look forward to my hunt in a couple weeks. After putting in for archery tags for years and not getting drawn, I put in for rifle and was finally drawn. Go figure! There is one less monster running around those hills, but I hope to find a nice one anyway. Tough to scout all the way from Phoenix, but hopefully there's enough to go around.

Any advice from past hunters would be helpful.

Congrats again!
 
Dave, pm me and will share what knowledge we gained from our hunt.

Zach wants it entered because is shows on the NMGF website until he gets bumped out of the top 10.
 
Cookie and Stinky.,,, I sent you private messages, Your consideration is appreciated. Thanks
 
live4muleys,
I agree with you completely. Maybe I'll put it back up there where it belongs also.....oh I guess I did! lol
 
Great ibex, super pics, good hunt recap! Congrats to Zach and Dad on a great hunt. What an adventure for father and son!
 
Seriously, I've looked at this thread more than I've ever looked at any other. That animal in UNREAL. Thanks Zach and Paul for sharing. Congrats again Zach on an incredible harvest.
 

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