LAST EDITED ON Apr-11-11 AT 09:49AM (MST)[p]desertdeer - Gotta ask, "Have you read the Simpson-Teser language?"
Do you realize the difference between a USFWS delisting ruling (adminstrative rule) and the Simpson-Tester language in the budget (an Act of Congress)?
The wolf nuts have never reversed an Act of Congress. They have reversed or had held up many administrative rulings.
Those ID/MT wolf hunts you mention that were stopped after one year were based on a judge who decided an administrative ruling by USFWS was incorrect, because Wyoming has not been given delisted status. That is what was overturned.
You think the "greenies" are supporting this? Have you talked to any of them, or read what they are saying about this bill? If you have, and still draw the conclusion these groups are supporting Simpson-Tester, then your reading comprehension gives you a different interpretation than mine.
Simpson-Tester will be an Act of Congress. That is why the wolf nuts are in every major newspaper, screaming and yelling of what a disaster this will be. If it was just an administrative ruling, they would be chuckling, as they could tie it up in courts again.
No one I know is saying that we stop with this. We keep pushing for more. Why BGF/SFW worked to kill this progress is beyond me. That puts them in the same camp as the wolf lovers.
So when you ask, "who is really siding with the anti's???????" the answer would be the folks who want to kill this language. Folks who, however well-intended, have drank the BGF/SFW Kool-aid and do not think about the impossibility of the BGF/SFW solution known as S.249.
I would love to have S.249 pass. A lot of problems would be solved.
I would also love to win the lottery, have a Henry's mule deer tag every year, and never have to work again. All of those wishes have better odds of happening than the passage of the S.249 silver bullet promoted by BGF/SFW.
I will leave it with this last comment. Since no one else has been able to get BGF/SFW to come forward with their magical plan to get S.249 passed, why don't you ask them for such plan, and post that plan here, so the rest of us can understand the strategy to be employed. The strategy that evidently is so good that we disregard all other progress that can be had.
If you can tell me that strategy, and not like some have posted of "Because Mr. Peay and Mr. Benson said so," I might be inclined to listen. Anyone who has been involved in so much as the politics of a grade school fundraising committee understands that S.249 is never going to pass.
Here is why no plan has been shown for S.249. There is not plan. Or, if there is a plan, it would get blasted out of the water in about two minutes. Similar bills could not pass in 2002/2003, when the Repubs controlled every position in DC. And BGF/SFW thinks they are going to pass something that changes the ESA when the Dems hold power in 2 of the 3 Houses in DC. Good luck with that.
If there was a strategy, it might be worth the time of discussion. But given the asbolute bail out of explanation, the attempts to kill Simpson-Tester, and the continued requests for money, at this time, I don't see much reason to believe a word they say.
I will let you decided what is a better group than BGF. It is your money. Spend it how you want.
"Hunt when you can - You're gonna' run out of health before you run out of money!"
