Wyo Sheep & Moose Results
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habitat
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I know how you feel another UN for me in the moose hunt
littlebighorn
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LAST EDITED ON May-04-09 AT 08:37AM (MST)[p]DWalt,
Congratulations to your friend. That is a great tag! So, are you going sheep hunting with him?
Congratulations to your friend. That is a great tag! So, are you going sheep hunting with him?
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camuleycrazy
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Un for me with 13 NR points.
Hunterofthesouth19
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My dad just drew area 26 for moose. Probably his last moose hunt. Anyone have any info on this area? Any help would be appreciated.
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johnb
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I drew unit 4-1 sheep as a NR with 13 points. This will be my first sheep hunt ever. I'm going to enjoy every minute of it!
llamapacker
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I drew an area 26 moose tag as well. It should be a great year.
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huntindude
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Wife drew 42/43.
Now I need to decide if I want to chance it on a DIY or get her an outfitter. I know nothing about the unit other than it's pretty country and supposed to have a few nice bulls.
Now I need to decide if I want to chance it on a DIY or get her an outfitter. I know nothing about the unit other than it's pretty country and supposed to have a few nice bulls.
RamDreamer
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I drew Area 1 moose with 13 preference points. I'm looking forward to it!
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dilret100
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Unsuccesful now 15 resident moose points and 13 sheep. I am going to be the last resident with full points for moose.
HornedToad
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LAST EDITED ON May-04-09 AT 06:09PM (MST)[p]
Unsuccessful again with 13 NR sheep points.
Some analysis... there were 58 NR sheep permits, with 10 going in the Random Draw and 48 in the Preference Point Draw.
There is no way to know from the available information how the 10 Random Draw permits were distributed among the various point classes, though it is likely that most of these permits went to "low point" applicants, since they constitute the large majority of total applicants.
Of the 48 Preference Point permits, the distribution among the point classes were:
PP.....Permits.....%
14....... 7.......15%
13.......35.......73%
12....... 5.......10%
10....... 1....... 2%
.........48......100%
Only 15% of the PP permits were drawn by MAX PT holders with 14 points. Fully 73% were drawn by holders of MAX-1 PTs, or 13 points. This demonstrates the falicy of expecting that all of one class must "clear out", or go to zero, before the next class begins to draw. There will be substantial overlap.
Going into the 2009 Draw, there were 55 possible MAX PT applicants. Of these, only 13, or 24%, entered the draw, capturing 7 of the 48 available permits. That means that 32 MAX PT holders chose to bypass the 2009 draw. It will not be possible to determine how many of these will choose to apply for the "preference point only" option until after the data on that process is delivered later this year.
In any event, with the permits drawn in 2009, the number of MAX PT holders has dropped from 55 to a maximum of 48, and the number of MAX-1 PT holders has dropped from 223 to 188.
Good luck to those who drew!
HT
Unsuccessful again with 13 NR sheep points.
Some analysis... there were 58 NR sheep permits, with 10 going in the Random Draw and 48 in the Preference Point Draw.
There is no way to know from the available information how the 10 Random Draw permits were distributed among the various point classes, though it is likely that most of these permits went to "low point" applicants, since they constitute the large majority of total applicants.
Of the 48 Preference Point permits, the distribution among the point classes were:
PP.....Permits.....%
14....... 7.......15%
13.......35.......73%
12....... 5.......10%
10....... 1....... 2%
.........48......100%
Only 15% of the PP permits were drawn by MAX PT holders with 14 points. Fully 73% were drawn by holders of MAX-1 PTs, or 13 points. This demonstrates the falicy of expecting that all of one class must "clear out", or go to zero, before the next class begins to draw. There will be substantial overlap.
Going into the 2009 Draw, there were 55 possible MAX PT applicants. Of these, only 13, or 24%, entered the draw, capturing 7 of the 48 available permits. That means that 32 MAX PT holders chose to bypass the 2009 draw. It will not be possible to determine how many of these will choose to apply for the "preference point only" option until after the data on that process is delivered later this year.
In any event, with the permits drawn in 2009, the number of MAX PT holders has dropped from 55 to a maximum of 48, and the number of MAX-1 PT holders has dropped from 223 to 188.
Good luck to those who drew!
HT
DonVathome
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Good info as always, I got a long way but it is 1 year closer!
Did any of the top or max-1 drop out? Any drop in the total apps getting points? I am hoping the $100 point will still cause more then the average 3% drop in applicants. In other words I hope a few stuck it out 1 more year to see what everyone else does before dropping out (meaning they dropped out this year. I have 10 points counting this year. I am still hoping to draw in 10 years, 15 years more realistic.
Did any of the top or max-1 drop out? Any drop in the total apps getting points? I am hoping the $100 point will still cause more then the average 3% drop in applicants. In other words I hope a few stuck it out 1 more year to see what everyone else does before dropping out (meaning they dropped out this year. I have 10 points counting this year. I am still hoping to draw in 10 years, 15 years more realistic.
DonVathome
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dope, I forgot about the pref pnt draw, no way to know until after that. My bad.
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clausepeak
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Moose for the wife,notta for me!!!!!Congrats wyoxtec heard from a buddy you drew sheep.
llamapacker
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I drew area 26 for moose with 9 points as a non-resident. Many people with 9 points did not draw. Everyone with 10 points drew in the preference pool.
Bill
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Let's hear some stories as the season progresses from the moose and sheep hunts.
Sheep applications were down about 10%. Approx 2100 in 2008 and approx 1900 in 2009. If the economy is supposed to have an effect on number of applicants I have not been the benefactor. Nothing so far in 2009. Holding out hope for the rest of the draws. Good Luck to everyone.
Sheep applications were down about 10%. Approx 2100 in 2008 and approx 1900 in 2009. If the economy is supposed to have an effect on number of applicants I have not been the benefactor. Nothing so far in 2009. Holding out hope for the rest of the draws. Good Luck to everyone.
HornedToad
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Somehow, I blew this. There were 50 NR Preference Point permits for 2009. They were distributed as:
PP.....Permits.....%
14....... 8.......16%
13.......36.......72%
12....... 5.......10%
10....... 1....... 2%
.........50......100%
Either WY revised the original report, or I can't add. Sorry for the confusion.
HT
PP.....Permits.....%
14....... 8.......16%
13.......36.......72%
12....... 5.......10%
10....... 1....... 2%
.........50......100%
Either WY revised the original report, or I can't add. Sorry for the confusion.
HT
HornedToad
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LAST EDITED ON May-06-09 AT 04:19PM (MST)[p]
I also have failed to benefit from any reduction in the overall number of sheep applications, so far(!).
Comparing 2008 to 2009, for a NR with MAX-1 preference points (12 in 2008 and 13 in 2009), the only area that experienced worse draw odds in 2009 relative to 2008... was Unit 4.
Naturally, I applied in Unit 4.
Draw success % for 2008 and 2009:
Unit.....2008.....2009
001.......57%.....100%
002.......18%.....100%
003........9%......36%
004.......45%......31%
005........0%......22%
007......100%.....100%
008......100%.....100%
010........0%......50%
019........0%.......0%
022.......14%......33%
024.......na........0%
For the first time, in 2009 MAX-1 applicants went 100% in Units 1 and 2.
On to 2010!
HT
I also have failed to benefit from any reduction in the overall number of sheep applications, so far(!).
Comparing 2008 to 2009, for a NR with MAX-1 preference points (12 in 2008 and 13 in 2009), the only area that experienced worse draw odds in 2009 relative to 2008... was Unit 4.
Naturally, I applied in Unit 4.
Draw success % for 2008 and 2009:
Unit.....2008.....2009
001.......57%.....100%
002.......18%.....100%
003........9%......36%
004.......45%......31%
005........0%......22%
007......100%.....100%
008......100%.....100%
010........0%......50%
019........0%.......0%
022.......14%......33%
024.......na........0%
For the first time, in 2009 MAX-1 applicants went 100% in Units 1 and 2.
On to 2010!
HT
cbeard
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I applied for Area 4 also since last year it had fewer apps/better odds.
It has taken awhile but I have finally figured out not to try to bounce around between areas and "time" the draw. Why? Everybody else is doing this too so it usually makes things worse. I'm picking an area and sticking with it....
It has taken awhile but I have finally figured out not to try to bounce around between areas and "time" the draw. Why? Everybody else is doing this too so it usually makes things worse. I'm picking an area and sticking with it....
