Speaking of rams, did anyone happen to watch the Ultimate Shot on T>V today. Archie Nesbitt bowhunter from Canada was hunting Cadomin Alberta put two arrows into a 190 plus ram whatched it lay down right below him waiting for it to die when other hunters start shootig it. Archie took it a lot better than I would've said he couldn't claim it as a bow kill with a bullet in it, what a joke some of these hunters are. Sorry to hijack your post HH but thought many here would like to hear about this.