WB vs Drop Away

[MartinHunter]

OK, last upgrading question for now. Can anyone compare and contrast the WB and drop away rests who has used them both in hunting situations? Which was more accurate and which performed better in the field. I have shot a WB for a few years now, and when I got it the drop aways were not even around. I have thought it to be the most practical rest I have used, but am I hindering my shooting capability by not upgrading to a drop away style? I also still currently shoot fingers and have not decided if I am going to go to a release. Are drop aways practical, and do they increase performance for finger shooters as well? Once again, any help would be much appreciated.

Michael

 

[Lien2]

I have not shot a drop away. I plan on putting one on after hunting season next fall. The WB is the best hunting rest in my opinion. I shoot better than several guys with drop away's in 3D league this winter with my WB.
For hunting I just do not like having the cord of a drop away dangling there getting snagged on brush, breaking, etc. I will put one on for 3D league next year, but it will come off before hunting season and my WB will go back on.

Lien2

 

[Boskee]

Michael, drop away rests won't work for finger shooters because the arrow bends as it goes aroung the bow. That's why side pressure rests are designed for them. Your whisker bisquit should be fine for you unless you want to change. It has some good features that work well when in the field. While I don't shoot one I have several friends that do and they wouldn't switch. Lien2 gave you some good input as well.

 

[MartinHunter]

Thanks for the help. I am mainly into hunting, thus I did figure the WB would be more practical, however, everyone at the local Pro Shop and 3D league swear by the drop away rests. My cousin went and spent $90.00 on his because the guys he shoots with said that it would make a dramatic difference in accuracy. Because part of my problem with ?hit or miss? while hunting is confidence in not wanting to wound an animal. I was wondering if the drop away with a release, despite the problems that could arise would be more ethical.

 

[Lien2]

MartinHunter-
If you are having confidence with your shooting, it doesn't matter what rest you are using.
Also, don't give in to the peer pressure and looking at what other guys have for equipement. Shoot what you like, and what you are confident with, the shots will come.
Good luck.

Lien2

 

[swbuckmaster]

LAST EDITED ON Apr-06-06 AT 11:30AM (MST)[p]Wisker bisket and fingers are a good carp hunting setup. That's what I use.
For deer hunting and competition I would use drop away and release. You will be capable of making longer shots in practice which will build your confidence at making pinpoint accuracy kills on animals. I switched three years ago and haven't tracked a deer for more than 30 yards sense. I also haven't seen a wisker bisket on anyone?s bow who competes for money in 3d or spots. That's just my own observation.
Good luck on what ever you chose and practice for an ethical shot.

 

[MartinHunter]

I have shot 2 deer with my bow shooting with fingers and both of them ran no more then 50 yrds. Given the shots were both under 20 yrds, that is my idea setuation to begin with. I am not interested in money, and shoot 3D now just for experiance. I have not witnessed anyone whom uses a WB shooting for money, but 4 years ago I never scene anybody use a drop away neither. Some pro shop owners say that it is a passing fad until something newer and more shiny comes out. I think it will increase my ability, but want some input people that have hunted with a drop away in winter conditions, and ruff timbered country such as what I hunt in. This change for me is something that will be a complete 360 and I am weighing it. LOL, seems kind of odd but this has been the biggest problem on my mind for like a week now and it is driving me crazy~ ANy more thoughts?

 

[Magnus100]

You ask for a compare and contrast in hunting situations so here is my 2 cents. I shot a few deer with drop away rests and was happy with them until I tried the WB. It is awesome! I will never again miss an opportunity because my arrow came off the rest when drawing. I bellied crawled on some elk with an arrow in the WB last fall and it worked perfect. I have several times in my 6 years of archery hunting drawn on deer with the drop away and had it come off the rest because of akward angles etc.
Try the WB, you'll like it.
Mike

 

[MartinHunter]

Magnus100, thanks for your input. Coming from someone who has used them both while hutning helps a lot. I have already used a WB for about 5 years and do love it a lot. The switch to a drop away will not be made for me anytime soon.

Michael

 

[Silentstalker]

Have any of you noticed any problems with the WB at longer ranges. I have one on my hunting bow. It paper tunes great and is easy to set up and use. I have not shot it over 20 yards yet. I probably will this week. Just curious with those who have experience with this rest. I don't particularly care for the drop aways due to the cord. I keep thinking it might come off or malfuntion some how. Everyone I know who uses them swears by them though! Good luck to you all and thanks for any input!

Chad

 

[MartinHunter]

I have not noticed any long range shot problems with my WB. I have heard some people say that due to the slower speed, they are not effective at 40 yrds or beyond, however, I have only noticed about a 5fps diff in my arrow speed then from my cousins exact bow with a drop away. I have shot great at those ranges before and know people that haver taken muleys at 65 yrds with slow ars bows and WB's. People swear by the drop aways as fare as competetion, however, judging from the reponses I have got its hard to make a case, or even fiind one for drops aways while hunting.

Michael

 

[Lien2]

I have shot my WB out to 60 yards with absolutely NO problems. If there ever are problems, it's the shooter or the bow not in-tune, but it's not the WB. I think on average a bow loses about 2-3 fps with the WB, about the same as putting on a peep, or string silencers, or kisser button, etc.

Lien2

 

[Silentstalker]

Thanks guy's. I was just curious. It is good to know that it flies good even at far ranges. I could care less about speed. Good luck to you all.

Chad

 

[MartinHunter]

I would say that even with the drop in speed you could still have some pass through power out to 60 yrds or so with the WB.

Michael

 

[Aztrophytaker]

i would go with the wb for the fact that once the arrow is contained in the rest its not going anywhere verses the drop away rest were theres not a full containment of the arrow, and when you have that trophy animal in your sights the last thing you want happen is for your arrow to come of your rest.

 

[Wiszard]

I went to the archery shop today w/ the intent to have a WB put on my Switchback and the guy who was helping me seemed very knowledgeable and showed me the Trophy Taker drop away rest and they have an arrow holder just in front of the drop away mechanism. You arrow is held in place until you draw. Also, there is no room between the riser and the edge of the rest for the arrow to fall off the rest. The rest is V- shaped so it cant fall off. He went on to say that you dont want your vanes to have contact w/ anything at the shot. He also said that youre limited to what types of vanes you can shoot through the WB. For example you cant shoot Quik-spins because the ridge on the back of the vane will break off. I was sold on it. I bought the Trophy Taker drop away. The arrow doesnt fall off. Go to a shop and see for yourself! I have been hearing good things about the WB and thats what I originally was going to get. Good luck!

 

[Blackknight]

I agree with Aztrophytker!!! I showed him the importance of a WB and he seen me drop two deer two years in a row!!!! I Love It!!!

 

[cabinfever]

I walked into the bow shop with full intentions of getting a drop away, but the guy at the counter advised me to try a WB if I am mainly using it for hunting applications. I did and have never looked back.

Mike

 

[COLO3D]

LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-06 AT 07:03PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-06 AT 05:01?PM (MST)

I have had the same Trophy Taker rest on several different bows over the last five years. I have used it while belly crawling through the Grasslands after antelope and while hunting in the oak brush for muleys and elk. The myth of the cord being a problem is just that, a myth. I have never had a single malfunction when hunting or while shooting tournaments.

I will make a couple of arguments for the drop away rest. First, total clearance when set up properly. This allows you to shoot a very strong helical which contributes to accuracy, especially when shooting fixed blade broadheads. If you shot the same amount of helical with a prong style rest you would have to shoot a very large diameter arrow (Not carbon) to get any level of clearance. Second, when coupled with the arrow holder from New Archery Products, they provide nearly as much containment as the Biscuit, while still providing clearance.

Please explain to me how anything that damages your fletching, which provides steering for you arrow, that badly does not have a negative impact on your accuracy.

As mentioned before you do not see any of the top level pros shooting a biscuit on their bows. While you may not shoot tournaments, I assume that you do realize that increased accuracy means quicker kills. I personally will not shoot anything on my bow that does not help me to make a cleaner kill on the animals that I hunt. I have had great success getting tight groups with broadheads out to 80 yards with a drop away.

 

[Blackknight]

If you are treestand hunting or target shooting, a dropaway would be beneficial but when still hunting through a mild snow fall a WB is certainly useful. It's one less thing to think about (your arrow coming off its resting position) when concentrating on your stalk through all the brush,snow and other things that can occur. I'm certain that the dropaway is extremely accurate because I have tried them but I chose a WB because of my brace height only be 5inches and the concern of my arrow coming off its rest or my prongs freezing up in the cold weather.

 

[jodog]

I used a WB for about 3 years and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, get a drop away that contains the arrow. The WB was ok out to about 20 yards after that it was a crap shoot on what was going to happen with the arrow.A drop away was a BIG improvement !!!

 

[elkaddiction]

I've shot and hunted with both. There is no question about the advantages of the WB for hunting with total arrow containment. However, I've recently removed the WB and replaced it with another drop away. I believe the WB is as inherently accurate as the drop aways if properly tuned. However, at long range, they seem to be more sensitive to form errors or changes. I've shot a WB and drop away equipped bow back to back for months out to 80 yds and the accuracy is more consistent with the drop aways. Because there are times the accuracy is as good with the WB, I think it is as accurate--there are just more "flyers" which I think are best explained by very slight changes in form. My guess is this is caused my complete contact with the arrow for a longer period of time. My hunting is primarily spot and stalk hunting in the mornings, and stand hunting in the evenings. Spot and stalk shot opportunities are regularly 40-60yds (my self imposed limit). If I knew I would never be faced with a shot beyond 40yds, I would be content with the WB hunting (although not for longer informal 3-d shoots which are out to 80+ yds). For longer shots, it simply is not as consistent. If all you are going to be doing is short range stuff, there is no down side with the WB. I've had no problems whatsover with the cord on my trophy takers. They have proven very reliable. I'm playing with a new drop away called a limb driver by vapor trail and am very impressed. I believe it will make a great splash on the drop away market.