LAST EDITED ON Sep-27-07 AT 02:06PM (MST)[p]There aren't as many in any of the units as the f&g would like you to believe. Thats one of the reasons they force you to hunt when the leaves are on the trees and probably no snow. They say there out there and there are a few. Over harvesting means more money. They should let you hunt them in November when there is snow on the ground like they use to. good luck