Thanks Ed for posting my pics & thanks for the compliments to all. Some hunt info: I harvested this 6 1/2 year old billy on a self guided hunt in the Ruby Mts (Nevada). After 2 late summer scouting trips and 4 days of hunting I harvested this goat on Oct 1. I spotted this goat at 1 1/2 miles away moving up a a cliff face were he bedded on an impossible narrow ledge at almost 11,000 ft. After lots of glassing we found a shooting position that would be under a 100 yds. and a route to recover the goat if he did not fall. My buddy Tom Carpenter and I were able to climb up next to a sleeping billy at 55 yds where I waited 1/2 hr. to shoot. I could not see his horns until he got up and I had 2 seconds to judge him before I shot, as he was turning away from me. I took a high front shoulder shot, slightly quareting away that dropped him (7 mm). He did mange to move 15 ft. If he moved less than 2 ft. closer to the lip of the ledge he was on he would have tumbled 700 ft. Luckly we were able to move from the shooting position to the animal on some 6-inch ledges with overhangs. We harvested the billy at 2 P.M. and got back to the truck at 2 A.M. The pack out was in the dark with the loaded packs lowered down a 60 ft. cliff in the dark and thru numerous avalance cutes, what a thrill ! The billy is just shy of 9-inches (8 7/8 and 8 3/4) with pretty good mass, green score 48 2/8. I waited one month for the goats to hair up, it's a two month season in Nevada. This billy will make a great full body mount. I did see two other good billys, one I spent two days on and I got outsmarted by him and the other was far away which may have been killed by another hunter (10+ inches?). The excitement of hunting goats was far more than I planned because they are active, the country they hang in and trying to judge them. Thanks for the Monster Muleys Posts and all who helped me.. P.S. The muzzleloader forum really helped me harvest a 360 gross bull elk (7x7) with Master Guide Thomas Brunson of Timberline Outfitters, McGill, NV. last year.....best of luck on all your draws and hunts, Larry Berg