Urgent !!! Do you ever want to draw a permit

[livingthedream]

The legislature is trying to pass a bill that will in effect give 12 -17 year olds up to six Bonus points on any controlled hunt they put in for. Hard to believe ,look on the Fish & Game website on that topic and look at bill H 457. It states that a Parent and grandparents that draw a controlled permit can give that tag to a child. I have talked to a F&G Commissioner about this and according to him this was NOT what their proposal was suppose to do.
If this passes a 12 -17 year old could have seven chances to draw a permit to your one, giving them six bonus points. I bet Grandmas who have never hunted a day in their life and have no intentions of hunting will be putting in for permits so their grandchild can have a better chance to draw a permit.
Parents if this sounds like an awesome deal think about it. If your child is one of the unlucky ones that doen't draw a tag before they turn 18 they then are in the same boat the rest of are in. They may never draw a tag.
Consider this if you are putting in for a permit and a hundred people put in, and there are 10 permits your chances are one in ten of drawing. If this passes and now ten of those hundred people are 12 - 17 years old and they each get all of their extra chances to put in on their behalf there is 170 people in on this drawing. Your chances now if 18 or older have dropped to 1 in 17. That almost doubles the odds against you. How does that make you feel when you've been putting in for a tag for years.
I urge you to look at this and please call or email those who are voting on this to stop it ASAP I hope it's not to late . This is also only going to create more resentment towards youth hunting as I know some already don't like the special youth only hunts.
Remember the majority of us who hunt are 18 or older.

 

[6speed]

With all the bad bills in the legislature this is the one that worries you the most? I'm far more concerned about the opportunity we will lose when our tags start selling in the private sector, S1282 and S1256. Then there are the bills that would increase tag fees to cover private loss already covered by the USFWS, HO544 and HO545. Add in taking away F&G ability to control ATV's on federal ground during hunting season HO542. Sprinkle with a dash of elk desease when private elk ranch owners are no longer required to test or treat for deseases prior to bringing domestic elk into Idaho SCR117 and the chance that some kid may have better odds at a tag is just a garnish on the $#it soup our legislature is serving us this year. I'm not for HO457 but I'm not that worried about it.

 

[brymoore]

LTD,

Where in the bill does it state that minors get 6 additional chances at each draw? As I read the bill, it only allows a parent or grandparent the ability to designate a controlled tag to a minor under the Mentored Youth program.

http://legislature.idaho.gov/legislation/2012/H0457.pdf

In case you don't know, only the underlined portion is being changed with the bill.

 

[MULEY204]

Not sure if I missed something here but I got the same conclusion as brymoore. Basically saying if I draw a controlled hunt I can let my child fill the tag as long as they have a valid hunting license.

parent or grandparent designating any controlled hunt tag or controlled hunt permit to a minor child or grandchild as prescribed by rules of the commission.
A controlled hunt tag or controlled hunt permit can be designated
only to a minor child with a valid hunting license or one who is
participating in a mentored hunting program as prescribed by rules
of the commission. A controlled hunt tag or controlled hunt permit
designated to a minor child cannot be sold.

 

[htnfool]

Idaho doesn't have a point system anyway, so what the heck are you talking about?

I agree with the above posts

 

[nitis]

What he is saying is it gives each youth up to 7 chances to draw providing both parents and all grandparents apply and are willing to give their tag to the kid

 

[MichaelJ]

>What he is saying is it
>gives each youth up to
>7 chances to draw providing
>both parents and all grandparents
>apply and are willing to
>give their tag to the
>kid

Yeah that... he's saying that 4 grandparents, and 2 parents, plus the kid (7) will all put in for the tag in hope that one of them draws so the kid can hunt.

Mike

 

[dreaminbouthuntin]

Why doesnt idaho first increase the dam elk, antelope and deer numbers then worry about doing that crap.

 

[nitis]

>Why doesnt idaho first increase the
>dam elk, antelope and deer
>numbers then worry about doing
>that crap.


You really don't know the answer to your question already?

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They are losing money every year because the non resident slush fund is drying up!