I have heard and read for g or h You pretty much need guide or horses. I had a guided elk hunt here in AZ. this year and just moved back here and can't afford one this year.Plus I will be 60 in Sept. but in pretty good shape, but not to climb them hills with gear. Have a friend in Casper that would take me in 34, He knows it but just doesn't tell me much about it. He is the quiet type. So I am curious for info. I would do g if I had some help over there. This guy likes to sleep in his own bed at nite. Great guy and knows his stuff, if I want free help its gotta be close to home. Thanks Top Gun..........BULL!