Ukraine question

[eelgrass]

If California decided to break away from the United States like Ukraine did from Russia, and then 20 years later the United States decided to invade California to get it back, who would you support?

 

[OutdoorWriter]

Do you really think the US would ever want it back?

 

[Bluehair]

Perfect for a secret vote poll.

 

[eelgrass]

Do you really think the US would ever want it back?

Biden would.

 

[eelgrass]

I'm pretty sure Hoss would fight to the death to keep California "free".

 

[2lumpy]

If California decided to break away from the United States like Ukraine did from Russia, and then 20 years later the United States decided to invade California to get it back, who would you support?

If a socialist/communist dictator took over the United States, and locked every body down, stopped the free movement of our people, killed our people for speaking freely, took our weapons away, outlawed the religious freedom, outlawed free enterprise, poisoned/killed/imprisoned anyone who criticized the dictator and socialism/communism government……… for 50-75 years. And then allowed a period where California and other Stated could freely leave the United States, and self govern, for fear of the United States returning to its previous practices of terror and tyranny, I would fully support California breaking away, or any other State. Russia, by virtue of it past, has not proven to deserve any loyalty or respect from previous family members.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

Biden would.

Yeah, I imagine so since he got more than 11 million votes there.

 

[Captain_coues]

 

[Sallaberry]

It would be a great idea to pitch old newsome. King of California it might work if they did China would be heading over quick.

 

[Tristate]

There's a lot of oil under that little commy country.

 

[hossblur]

If California decided to break away from the United States like Ukraine did from Russia, and then 20 years later the United States decided to invade California to get it back, who would you support?

I support California leaving. I'd back whoever made that happen

 

[wetmule]

Article is a few years old but I'd imagine it's much worse now.

75 Reasons Why California Sucks 2024 | The Hidden Dominion

Looking for Reasons Why California Sucks? You've come to the right place. Let's expose the California Socialist Republic.

www.hiddendominion.com

 

[JPickett]

At that point t I’d support a nuclear strike on San Francisco

 

[2lumpy]

At that point t I’d support a nuclear strike on San Francisco

That’s not funny……. but I understand your attitude. The prevailing winds blow east…….

 

[JPickett]

You’re right. Little close to boise. Hit LA

 

[RELH]

JPickett, I am against a nuke strike on San Francisco. If the wind is blowing to the East, a lot of good conservative people will get radiation fallout. I prefer that San Francisco just drops off into the bay.
RELH

 

[roadrunner]

who would you support?

CA. They deserve to stay separate.

 

[eelgrass]

You guys go ahead and nuke California but don't come crying to me when you can't get almonds on your Almond Joy, or your lumber yard can't get Redwood decking.

 

[Weiserbucks]

You guys go ahead and nuke California but don't come crying to me when you can't get almonds on your Almond Joy, or your lumber yard can't get Redwood decking.

Deal.

 

[roadrunner]

You guys go ahead and nuke California but don't come crying to me when you can't get almonds on your Almond Joy, or your lumber yard can't get Redwood decking.

Easy, can't stand Almond Joy and redwood decking is too much trouble and work for upkeep.

 

[2lumpy]

Easy, can't stand Almond Joy and redwood decking is too much trouble and work for upkeep.

Hey, hey back off on those Almond Joy’s there bud. And I got termites in my dirt!!!!!

 

[feddoc]

You guys go ahead and nuke California but don't come crying to me when you can't get almonds on your Almond Joy, or your lumber yard can't get Redwood decking.

You left out the lettuce we all get from CA.

 

[eelgrass]

You left out the lettuce we all get from CA.

And artichokes. I started some from seed about 6 weeks ago and will plant them this week

 

[2lumpy]

There comes a point……..

 

[RELH]

Also you can start buying your rice from China instead of the good long grain rice grown in CA. In fact CA. is called the food basket of this country and you will all pay higher prices for your food.
Lets get back to dropping San Francisco into the bay while Pelosi and Harris are there with Newsome.
RELH

 

[SS!]

Rice? Lettuce? Almonds? Good grief you guys should take up hunting. I know a forum where you can learn some tips…

 

[hossblur]

You guys go ahead and nuke California but don't come crying to me when you can't get almonds on your Almond Joy, or your lumber yard can't get Redwood decking.

Mounds are better anyway, and we use trex

 

[Bluehair]

How much is a piece of trex these days anyway? It was $100 a stick last i checked a couple of years ago.

Im trying to move back closer to the ground. Gravity eventually wins with stuff up in the air and we all end up on the ground anyway.

 

[JPickett]

Lets get back to dropping San Francisco into the bay while Pelosi and Harris are there with Newsome.
RELH

I have access to a lot of equipment. Just tell me how I can help

 

[OutdoorWriter]

And artichokes. I started some from seed about 6 weeks ago and will plant them this weekView attachment 71284

That's the only thing I think I'd miss.

 

[eelgrass]

Mounds are better anyway, and we use trex

Trex is recycled plastic bags so it's good for the environment too. You'd make a good Californian.

 

[heywouldya]

Do you really think the US would ever want it back?

Yep, the feds would lose what they love most, tax revenue.

 

[OutdoorWriter]

Yep, the feds would lose what they love most, tax revenue.

Not sure. Seems like the sort of sacrifice they'd be willing to accept considering the billions in aid & pork that gets returned.

 

[bullskin]

All fear-mongering and hysteria from the usual snowflakes aside, I do not see these as similar outcomes. For one, California was never a separate entity belonging to itself. It was a US territory, purchased by Americans of other states. Also, it came to the US requesting admission whereas Ukraine was forcefully occupied by Russia. I am fine with the US demanding that any state must remain part of this nation. unless released by the majority in the same manner it was admitted.

 

[Bluehair]

CA used to be a “donor” state (tax payments exceed federal aid). Isn’t that still the case?

 

[Soj51hopeful]

Hold the nukes for 2 more weeks, I’m almost out!!

 

[OutdoorWriter]

CA used to be a “donor” state (tax payments exceed federal aid). Isn’t that still the case?

Not by much way back when.

"In January 2017, the California Legislative Analyst’s Office said by several measures California is, indeed, a donor state, but just barely. It receives $0.99 in federal expenditures per dollar of taxes paid."

In 2021, it was $1 to $1.

BUT...the devil is in the details. In addition to welfare, pork projects, etc., the Feds spend billions on salaries/wages, grants, contracts, retirement & other benefits, as well as for upkeep on properties it administers, such as the myriad national parks. No CA, and all those costs disappear. Given the dollar-to-dollar exchange with taxes, this amounts to a huge net gain.

 

[hossblur]

Not by much way back when.

"In January 2017, the California Legislative Analyst’s Office said by several measures California is, indeed, a donor state, but just barely. It receives $0.99 in federal expenditures per dollar of taxes paid."

In 2021, it was $1 to $1.

View attachment 71304

BUT...the devil is in the details. In addition to welfare, pork projects, etc., the Feds spend billions on salaries/wages, grants, contracts, retirement & other benefits, as well as for upkeep on properties it administers, such as the myriad national parks. No CA, and all those costs disappear. Given the dollar-to-dollar exchange with taxes, this amounts to a huge net gain.

I'm sure they count illegal alien benefits

 

[feddoc]

The local eatery is now requiring proof of Ukraine support prior to entry.

 

[hossblur]

This punish the Russian people deal is going to come back in spades.

Can't wait until "we" decide gun ownership should mean cancelation. Or hunting.