The State of the Holy land.

nochawk

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This is a note from a friend who just returned from Israel/ Egypt and I would like to share it with all of you

Mon. Feb 11, 2008

Dear friends,

We are home. I am home with this flu that is going around. I had it
before we left and got worse in Egypt. I have really been sick. Sure is a waste of time.

Our trip was physically very hard. I lost 10 pounds and got sick. I
am glad I went, but would not go back to Egypt. It is a dirty,
ungodly country. The smog in Cairo Egypt was terrible. There are 17
million people in that city and they just throw their trash in
the streets. The Nile River is polluted. I don't know how such a
people who built the pyramids regressed like they have. If the Arabs
take over America, we will be a slum. And the noise pollution was
terrible. They chant their Muslim prayers all day.
Our tour guide was a Christian, and he was a fine young man, but the
ungodliness of the population is everywhere. It was a real
example of the difference of "light" vs "darkness." Jesus is truly
the Light.

Israel was clean and wonderful. We could eat the food and drink the
water. They were kind and loved us. They may not believe in
Jesus but you can tell that God is in that land. It snowed in
Jerusalem while we were there and it was cold, but we still toured.
The Sea of Galilee was stormy and we went out on a boat a short
distance, but came back to shore. The Bible is absolutely true
about the fact that you cannot be out on the Sea of Galilee in a boat
without the danger of dying. We were amazed at the big waves
and wind on that sea or lake.

The weather cleared in Israel at the end of the week and we went to the
Temple Mount on a beautiful morning. It was a time
with the Lord. We stood at the Golden Gate where Jesus will return.
It is sealed because the Muslims are concerned He will return!
They even have one of their graveyards outside the gate thinking no
King will come through a graveyard. But Jesus is coming!
It shows the Muslim are concerned and may believe there is a
possibility He will come. I stood and looked at that Gate,and was
very moved to think I was standing at the very place where Jesus will
enter Jerusalem again.

We went to Bethlehem. We had to let our Jewish guide out of the
bus, and our Arab bus driver drove us through the security
gate. That high wall that you have been hearing about on TV is there,
dividing Palestine and Israel. We then got a Christian guide
when we got into Bethlehem. I was there twice before, once in l980 and
again in l999 and there is a stark difference in Bethlehem
since the Arabs have taken it over. There were hardly any tourists.
We ate in a cafe on the square where I ate before which was
packed with tourists, but today it was vacant except for us. They have
killed their tourist trade. The Christians in Bethlehem asked us to
pray for them, because they had no income now. The Arab men on the
manger square glared at us. We did not feel safe
and clung together. There were beggar boys everywhere. They hate
Americans and Israel.

There is so much I could say about this trip. It has changed my life
in some ways. I look at the "lostness" of the Arabs and the darkness.
I look at Israel; that tiny country amidst such turmoil. If America
does not continue to support, Israel I believe God will
judge us severely as Americans. The Israelite soldiers were such fine
young men and women. They are clean and disciplined and have great love
for their land which is something that is missing in America among some
of our youth. I rode back to Lubbock from
Dallas on the plane with an American Air Force career soldier. He said
the Israelite pilots were the best in the world. They can fly
planes like no one else!

Lastly, we were asked everywhere about the Presidential race in
America. There was great interest. The Jews came up to us
and asked us many questions. They said they do not want the Clinton's
again.

They warned us that Obama is a Muslim, not a Christian.
In Egypt, the Arabs said the same thing to us; they said Obama
is Muslim and they are amazed that Americans would consider
electing a Muslim President of America! Once a Muslim, always a Muslim.

I came home loving America even more! Our country is a "light on a
hill." Our streets are clean. There are no chants all day.
People are kind and take their turn. People over there pushed into
line and were rude. They have never heard of the Golden Rule.
They will stomp all over you if they want to get in line. I can see
now why Jesus' words of loving your neighbor and doing unto
others, what you would have them do unto you, were strange words to the
lost. The Koreans were the worse about walking all over
us or trying to. We take our Christian heritage for granted here in my
opinion. We have sanctity of human life. In Egypt, the Arabs
don't have any hope so I can see why they would bomb people and commit
suicide. They smoked cigarettes everywhere! I could
not breathe in Egypt and I think that is why I came down with the flu
again. The smog was so bad at the pyramids, I could tell I
was getting sick. I would gag on the fumes.

We need to pray for America and this election every day.

God bless,
Skeet
 
What part of this makes sense to you and then I'll argue with it.

How many times does Obama have to say he's a Christian before he's allowed to be one? as if it mattered anyway. some one is whining about how bad your holy land is and we need a republican in office, what do you think Bush is?

Maybe I'm lucky, my holy land is right here in the western USA. the rag heads can have that sespool, just keep sending oil is all I care.
 
Someday soon my wife and two daughters are going to tour Israel. It is a dream of ours. I can hardly wait.


"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
I'm with Dude on this one.

This is the ONLY country that matters and why anyone would voluntarily leave it to "tour" some turdpile middle east country is beyond me.

I might not include Israel in that category, but Egypt, et,al, forget it.

Those people can wipe each other out and I think we should help them do it.

I don't like the ones we have here and I believe they will be the downfall of this country. They ARE slobs and care nothing about the things that make America great.

Pretty simple really. If a camel or a goat is considered property, or transportation in your country, you are not allowed in the United States. Period.
 
This really was not about Obama, more along the line of Understanding/studying your enemies and info about what is going on in the area if you ever wanted to take a tour/pilgrimage to the area. A lot of people take the tours every year, and like my friend I have been there a few times while in the military. It is saddening to know what has happened to the area..

But the same thing has happened to Clark AFB in the Phillipines after we pulled out, was a nice place to visit and sight see, but now it is all slums with raw sewage running down the roads..
 
Nochawk you are correct. Egypt problems are deffinitely related to its political instability and the radicalism within portions of the population. I know the assination of Sadat was a long time ago but I'm not sure if they'll ever recover from it. I was in Bejjing China two years ago and it was a lot like Cairo sounds. It was the noisest place I've ever been to, all people noise very little car noise. The smog was absolutely unbelievable. I can't imagine what will happen when more people in China start driving rather than riding bikes. Might be hell on earth.
 

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