stealing someone elses bull??

azcoueshunter · Oct 10, 2005

my uncle has a unit 7m tag here in az. today he shot a bull, and hit a little far back, no gut just barely hit the lungs, anyway they gave the 380in class bull an hour.my uncle went to the truck, got the needed escentials, and then went after the bull, but still waiting an hour before doing so.
when they returned and found the blood trial, after following it for a while they found the bulls gut pile!! someone had found the dead bull, gutted it and taken it home!! the reason we know it was found dead is because there were no other holes in the guts other than my uncles ( i know it may sound a little wierd but they checked the guts to see if there were any other broadhead holes, in this case there werent any.) they called azgfd and they said that its to bad, and that they need evdiance to proove that someone stole it. my uncle had been hunting for a whole week and these were the only elk herd theyve found!! the weather has been awful. he is very furious!! has this ever happened to you? if so did you ever find your animal? to those of you who have had it happen to you before im extreamly sorry.

best reguards and hope to hear from you soon, azcoueshunter

p.s. the same thread is on the elk forum if you want to see how that is going!

brutusthebuck · Oct 10, 2005

last year my dad shot a spike elk with his rifle and as it was stoved up another hunter (who saw my dad shoot) put a second bullet in it to knock it down. my dad told him that he had shot that spike, but the guy did not seem to care he just said that it was his first elk and he was really excited, well my dad was pretty mad, but my dad was able to get another spike the next day.

bubbas · Oct 10, 2005

We ran across a hunter in another unit that had the same thing happen to him. A 380" bull also. The theft doesn't stop at elk. I had my trailer stolen on the same hunt and the hitch was pad locked. Can't anyone just go have a good experience outdoors anymore without S**t like this happening. Imagine our grandparents time. First, no one would do that back then and if they did and were caught lets just say the Game and Fish wouldn't need to be involved. Sad!

easymoney · Oct 11, 2005

Remember the golden rule? It's a matter of ethics... Some have them and some don't!!!

Cass · Oct 11, 2005

Man that's rediculous. My dad has a saying, "If somone steals from me on a hunt, it becomes a manhunt." Not literally, Never had anything stolen outa camp, but have come back to camp and had other hunters in camp. It's gettin assnine to figure that you can't even go into the hills, a place where you go to get away from all the city sh!t, and you still find this kind of stuff...

-Cass

basinboy · Oct 11, 2005

About fifteen years ago I was on a general season deer hunt in Southern Utah. My wife and I were sitting on a ridge and I scoped a nice four point buck up that was close to 300 yds a cross a canyon She put a spotting scope on him and I took a shot and he rolled about 15 yds down hill and was up against some oak brush. We watched him for about 20 minutes and saw no movement, I watched another hunter come up from the bottom of the canyon so I headed across. I was about 50 yds from the buck when I caught up with the guy. I told him I had hit a buck and he was lying in the oak next to us. He turned around and did not say a word and walked over to were the buck was. When he was within about 15ft the buck stood up and tried to move away but was hit in the front shoulder and was seconds away from death. The guy raised his gun and with a semi-auto put three rounds in him at about 15yds. The buck was falling to the ground as he shot. I asked him what the hell he was doing and he turned around and glared at me and said this is my buck. I was so shocked at this guys nerve that I was not sure what to do.It was about a 24" buck nice but not worth getting shot over. WE were about 3 miles from the road and after he pumped him full of lead I was not going to argue with this guy. I told him my partner was on the hill watching this and I was going to leave and I hoped he would at least take care of what was left of the animal. I have allways thought that hunters are a select group of peaple and never thought anything like this could happen. My dad and I were in Montana hunting elk severel years later and a cowboy road up on a horse. I expected to get some attitude from this guy because we were out of staters. He stepped down off his horse came over and shook are hands and proceeded to tell us more about the country we were in then we had learned in four days of hunting. We were allso in bear country ( the kind that kill you )and he shared some helpfull info on how to deal with them. This guy had no idea who we were but treated us with more respect and had no pre-conceived opinuens about us. I have decided that there are mostly good peaple in this world but we all have to look out for the ones who care only about themselves. I try too be a non judgementel person untill some-one does something to make me fill other-wise about them. WE all share the same mountains and faverite hunting spots. We just nead to have paitence with each other and be happy.

azcoueshunter · Oct 11, 2005

to all of you whove had it happen we know what you were going through. my uncle has about a week left of this hunt but hes just so sick he came back today. i cant see how any person can still another hunters hard work and sweat. its just to bad. weve never had this happen before and we hope it never will again.

best reguards and hope no one steals anything of yours, azcoueshunter

also check out how this fourm is going on the elk thread! 30 people have replied so far!

baldbull · Oct 12, 2005

it's sick just how many hunters will take someone else's kill just to go home and tell people they got one. I don't know what I'd do, if the person was a ways away and didn't see me shoot and I didn't down the animal I'd say good job and move on. If he came across the dead animal or dying animal he knew someone was trying to find, I'd probably try to reason with him and when that didn't work, kick the antlers off with my boot and say congrats. If he wants the meat then so be it, if he wants the antlers then he will turn and leave.

Bow6x6 · Oct 12, 2005

A few years ago a hunting buddy of mine shot a nice buck and drug it to the nearest road. He left his hat on it to make it obvious this buck belonged to him while he went to fetch his truck. When he got back to pick it up the buck was gone and his hat was laying on the ground.

Same guy, three years ago was camped by himself and had drove out one morning to hunt for the day. When he returned that evening his whole camp was gone!!! Everything. Tent and all it's contents, table, chair, cooking stuff, target, everything. That's enough to make you puke.

Bow

baldbull · Oct 12, 2005

LAST EDITED ON Oct-12-05 AT 10:37AM (MST)[p]you can't really trust anyone, I have a hard time leaving camp set up where people can break in and take what they want. Society is gearing up for major blow because of the lack of concience and ethics. maybe katrina has taught people that if you view yourself as a victim and play the race card, you can do what you want and take what you want anytime you want.

Drake · Oct 26, 2005

kinda hard to move a elk out of the woods in 1 hour unless of course it died 10 yrds off the road.

easymoney · Oct 28, 2005

Had the same thing happen to me three years ago.
Had a very nice 7x7 bull located in his wallow/bedroom, waiting for the clear shot from above in the open, when out jump three yahoos with guns blazin from below on the road, they shot this bull on the run, it sounded as if they fired two magazines a piece for a total of around 18 shots fired, hit it in the antlers as well as the gut and rolled it into their truck ungutted.
Boy, were they proud of "their trophy"...

patty12 · Nov 11, 2005

dude that suks. if someone stole my elk id go and shoot them in the spleen with my bow from 22.8 yards away. i would make him pay for his theivery by making his spleen pop like a goat chewing his cud.

Lifetimehunter · Nov 20, 2005

Being from Texas, I hunted on land leased just for hunting. The only place to camp on our lease could be seen from the road. So we always had at least one stand set up so we could see camp from the stand. I was sitting in it one morning just after daylight, waiting for that big buck to come by. Now one of our group had already popped a doe and it was hanging in a tree close to our camp. While I was sitting there some yahoo driving down the road saw it, stopped, got out of his truck, jumped a fence and proceded to walk right into our camp and cut the rope holding the deer in the tree. I figured I might as well let him know he was being watched so I fired a couple of rounds through his tailgate . Needless to say once he realized the trouble he was about to be in he hauled his butt out of there. Never saw him again.

bowhunter223 · Jan 16, 2006

That's great lifetime. I spent a couple years down there in the ole state of texas and I feel exactly the same. If someone gets into my camp at all, let alone tries to take an animal that has been harvested, he'll find himself in a helluva lot of trouble. I'd pumped rounds at him till his tires burnt up.

slider · Jan 16, 2006

I had a 5x5 stolen about 15 years ago!!! I feel his pain!!! Good Luck

SneakAttack · Jan 17, 2006

You Texas boys are nuts!

'It's all about the gut pile'

Lifetimehunter · Jan 18, 2006

Some of us Texas boys are nut's, but I would say the nutty one was the one trying to steal that deer.

rooselk · Jan 21, 2006

Anyone who would steal the game shot by someone else is no better than a poacher - and the law ought to treat them as such. And anyone that would steal from someone's camp should not only be charged with theft, but also with a felony charge of burglery.

I've never had it happen to me (*knock on wood*) but I do know a couple of guys who twice had their cars broken into while fishing a particular lake. The first time they lost some fly gear and a couple of expensive fly rods. The second time they left the car unlocked and the glovebox open with a note saying that there was nothing of value in the car, as was suggested by another fisherman. When they returned to the car they found the seats and two tires slashed. Needless to say, they no longer fish that lake.

Archer16 · Jan 21, 2006

Id say the utah boys are just as nuts also. My friend shot a pretty nice 4 point just this year. It came down a hill, about 150 yards away, he nailed it square in the vitals. The buck ran down the hill, and my friend heard 3 quick shots. By the time my friend got to HIS buck, the guy had a tag on it and was gutting it. So they talked awhile and he explained that it was HIS and that he finished it off.

What a loser.

Silentstalker · Jan 23, 2006

In one year we had 2 mule deer stolen down around Beaver Utah. The first one was my sisters first Buck Mule deer. The blood trail crossed an ATV trail and all we found was a gut pile after waiting the 30 minutes and the 2nd was a decent buck my brother shot. He shot it in the AM and came back to camp to get help to retrieve it and when we got there it too was gone. Pretty sad that people have to get a deer or elk SO BAD that they would steal 2 young hunters deer or elk. This is indeed the ugly side of hunting. Better luck to all of you in the future!

Chad

gilabulls · Feb 2, 2006

Ya its too bad this crap happens!
But its been happening much longer than most of you think. My moms cousin says the muley hay-days were in the sixties he killed some whoppers in Wyoming.I'd seen his 41" muley and his 37" muley they are huge.He also had pictures of of a heavy 39" buck he killed in Wyoming, they stopped in Reno Nv. to eat and gamble alittle. Sad to say but he lost, someone cut the head off the carcass right out of the back of his truck on a busy street, they left the other four bucks alone the smallest was about 26" 4x4. He's past away now but I really enjoyed all of his stories.
If this ever happens to me I'll smack him with my rifle butt or barrel and leave him there til he come to.I'll be sure and take his weapon and his boots too!
gilabulls.