Here's my 12-year-old son's 'lope from Wyoming. We had a great time stalking numerous groups, working to get close enough for him. Twice, we got within 20 yards of bucks, but he couldn't get shots off. He ended up taking this one at about 140 yards. He even got bragging rights on dad - mine only went about 12" and his was just over 13" (for the non-broken side).