Poached Bull Moose! HELP PLEASE!

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bckcntrybuck

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I drew the East Canyon, bull moose tag for this past season. I was contacted by the fish and game hoping that I possibly had some information on a bull moose that was poached around the weekend of 10-08-11. This bull was killed up Alexander Basin behind Little Dell Reservoir up in East Canyon, Utah. Shot with a rifle and left. The bull is a young bull and could have been mistaken for maybe and elk or a deer or just flat out killed for no good reason. Anyways the fish and game have very little to go on. I have talked with the officer on the case several times trying to help out. I asked him today if he would like me to post some pics and he said that it would be ok.

If anybody was hunting in that area and saw anything that was suspicious, please send me a PM so that I can forward to the officer.
Here are a couple of pictures of the bull that was killed.

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YOU'RE FAT!! DON'T TRY AND SUGAR COAT IT OR YOU WILL EAT THAT TOO!!
 
what a waste ! don't expect much help, most people on this site will discredit the claim and exclaim " these things happen ".
 
It is this sort of thing that has a negative impact on the rest of the honest hunting community. What a shame. I hope they find and hold those responsible for their actions.
 
>what a waste ! don't
>expect much help, most people
>on this site will discredit
>the claim and exclaim "
>these things happen ".


That's just a little bit of a stretch don't ya think beavis? I assume this is your correlation to the long range hunting threads. If it is, here is a news flash. Regardless of whether you share the same contempt for long range hunting and outright poaching of a bull moose, one is legal the other is not.

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No, Beavis is referring to some comments made on another post about a suspected poaching incident.

I'll ask the same questions I asked on the other one...How do you know it was shot? Has it been proven that it was killed by gun shot wounds. Is there no other proven cause of death?
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-03-11 AT 04:19PM (MST)[p]Bull was shot with a rifle. Fish and game was up there disecting the animal and using a metal detector after it was found by some other hunters that called it in to the fish and game.






YOU'RE FAT!! DON'T TRY AND SUGAR COAT IT OR YOU WILL EAT THAT TOO!!
 
sh!t happens....oh well,

hope DWR can put thier shurlock skills together and get to the bottom of it.

"if you want some get some...if your bad enough come take some"
 
COLORADO HAS A REAL PROBLEM.

ELK HUNTERS WARNED TO AVOID MOOSE

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. - Halfway through the fall rifle seasons, Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials are again warning elk hunters not to shoot moose during their hunting trips.

Law enforcement officers are investigating 11 cases of moose being illegally shot this fall, including a trophy bull moose discovered shot and abandoned in the White River National Forest near Red Sandstone Road on Sunday, Oct. 30 and another illegally killed near Silverthorne on Oct. 22.

Last year, officers investigated 14 cases of moose being mistakenly - or illegally shot. Eleven hunters were cited for poaching or negligence.

"If there's any question - any question at all - don't shoot," said Ron Velarde Northwest Regional Manager. "If you're not absolutely, positively certain of your target, do not pull that trigger.

While each case presents unique circumstances, wildlife managers say inadvertent moose kills invariably involve some combination of low-light conditions, an incomplete or long-distance view of the animal and poor judgment by the hunter, leading to misidentification of the target.

It is the obligation of every hunter to positively identify the target," said Bob Thompson, Colorado Parks and Wildlife's Acting Chief of Law Enforcement. "It's the first and most important thing we teach in hunter safety class. There is no excuse for shooting the wrong animal."

Moose and elk are both large members of the deer family and the two species are easy to distinguish in clear light, said Andy Holland, Colorado Parks and Wildlife's big game manager. Elk tend to be lighter, have a white rump and can be found in groups, often in hilly and open terrain. Moose tend to be uniformly dark brown, travel singly or in pairs, and can often be found in riparian areas and willow thickets.

However, moose and elk can often be found in similar terrain - in aspen stands, in oak brush, in wet or dry meadows, and even above timberline. Heavy cover can also obscure distinguishing field marks, like the moose's bulbous nose or the broad, palmated antlers of bulls.

Hunting for elk is often best at dawn and dusk, low-light conditions that can lead to the misidentification of elk and moose even by experienced hunters. The moose's habit of standing still in bottoms and wet terrain can also make it a tempting target for an inexperienced or over-anxious hunter.

"Elk don't stand around and watch you," Holland said. "If it sees you or smells you and doesn't run away, it's probably not an elk. It's the hunters' responsibility to make sure they know what they're looking at."

Funded and supported by sportsmen, Colorado's moose introduction program ranks as one of the most successful species conservation efforts in state's history. Colorado is home to a growing population of roughly 1,700 moose, which are now common in North Park, Middle Park, Steamboat Springs, Rio Grande National Forest, and Grand Mesa National Forest. Moose were recently introduced into the White River National Forest east of Meeker. In addition, moose are inveterate wanderers and are increasingly found on the Front Range.

Colorado Parks and Wildlife issued just 175 moose hunting licenses this year. The lifetime bag limit for antlered moose in Colorado is one. In contrast, wildlife managers issued elk licenses to more than 214,000 hunters in 2010.

As Colorado's moose population has grown, Colorado Parks and Wildlife managers have devoted significant resources to education and outreach programs intended to inform hunters about the differences between elk and moose. This year, some 23,000 flyers were mailed to hunters who drew elk tags in areas where moose are known to exist. Elk and moose identification lessons are a standard part of hunter safety courses. Teams of volunteers even visited hunters in their camps throughout the Northwest Region to deliver the message face-to-face.

But sometimes, even a personal conversation is not enough. In 2010, Velarde visited a camp of elk hunters near Meeker and warned the group to be on the lookout for moose. A day later, a wildlife officer returned to the camp after one of the hunters turned himself in for shooting a moose.

"We harvest about 50,000 elk every year," Velarde said. "The vast majority of hunters behave responsibly and identify their target before taking their shot. They shouldn't feel like they're getting a black eye because a very small number of people are too quick on the trigger."

Hunters that mistakenly kill the wrong animal are urged to field dress the carcass and immediately contact Colorado Parks and Wildlife. Wildlife officers will seize the erroneously killed animal and donate the meat. Hunters who mistakenly kill a moose and don't turn themselves in, like the hunter that shot and abandoned the trophy bull near Vail, face serious charges and heavy fines if caught by wildlife officers. The illegal take of a bull moose can carry fines up to $10,000 and/or surcharges, but abandonment of a carcass may be prosecuted as a felony with fines up to $20,000 and/or imprisonment and the possible lifetime loss of hunting privileges in Colorado and 35 other states that participate in the national Wildlife Violator Compact.

In the Silverthorne case, several people hiking the Gore Range and Rock Creek/Pebble Creek Trail reported that they encountered a hunter who told them he had shot a bull moose by mistake, but the individual has yet to report the incident to wildlife officers. In this case, officers have a description of the hunter and articles that he left behind, and also believe that he is a resident of Colorado.

"If you make a mistake, own up to it," Velarde said. "It's the right thing to do. Report it to us and make sure the meat doesn't go to waste. Better yet - when in doubt, don't pull the trigger."

Hunters who may see suspicious activity in the field are asked to contact the local District Wildlife Manager, enforcement agency or Operation Game Thief toll-free at 877-COLO-OGT (877-265-6648). Callers may remain totally anonymous.

A fact sheet describing the differences between moose and elk is available at: http://wildlife.state.co.us/SiteCollectionDocuments/DOW/Hunting/BigGame/elk-moose-flyer.pdf

To learn more about moose in Colorado, see: http://wildlife.state.co.us/WildlifeSpecies/LivingWithWildlife/Mammals/Pages/MooseCountry1.aspx

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Editor's note: B-roll of moose and elk is available for media use at: http://vimeo.com/16435402

For more information about Division of Wildlife go to: http://wildlife.state.co.us.



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I wonder if it was a person with a tag for moose and found this one to be a bit small after a closer look?
 
Maybe mistaken for an Elk or Deer WTF?
You mean to tell me We're in the field with Jack-Tards that may not know any better?
Get a rope & hang em high.


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Maybe we should start catch them and writting MOOSE in big red letters on them. See that once in montana on a Augus cow and it seem to work because the cow was still walking around.

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During a rifle deer hunt in the Uintas, I once watched a large pronghorn buck headin out into a sage flat. All of a sudden, I hear 3 cracks from a rifle and the buck is high-tailin it out of there. When I went over to ask the guy about how his antelope hunt was going, he immediately started in on how he missed a giant mule deer..!! He was out of state...

Some people are just plain stupid, but stupid or not- they killed an animal illegally and I hope something will come of it.

The article from CO would almost be comical if it wasn't a serious problem.


"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 
If you have ever come across a cow moose and her calf then this may not be far from the truth. I was coming down the Alpine Loop one day between Sundance and Aspen Grove and came around a corner and in the road was a cow moose and two calves. I honestly thought she was going to charge me in my little car.
 
Many years ago, we rounded a bend on a mountain road only to see several F&G officers (with guns drawn) appear; the road was blocked.

They had a report that guys in a yellow Ford P/U (as was ours) had killed a moose....and left it. They were very aggressive.

I believe, had we not actually HAD a moose tag (buddy's dad had the tag), only one rifle and had we not been able to make a very logical argument that "we would have tagged it", they may have lynched us.

It was (by Idaho standards) a very large moose and only about 100 feet off the road (no mistake by the shooter; just a jerk). We never saw a living bull that entire trip. My buddy had taken his once-in-a-lifetime moose two years earlier; at age 55, his dad finally had a tag.

His dad is gone now and never got a moose. Had someone not poached that one?????????


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