Thanks for the positive comments guys. The really odd thing about the cheaters is that they are the same on both horns, shaped the same and in the same location. They kinda make it tough to get a good mass measurement on the 3rd qtr as they fall exactly where the measurement should be taken. If my measurements are right, he is 82 3/8" gross and 81 6/8" net. I am hoping he makes awards after the 60 day drying period.