All Right !! Thanks guys for your comments.
Hardway, I like the way yer thinken on tha Tule Elk draw. I tried a couple times but just don't like the odds. Still, with max points, they are gettin better.
A a young kid, we had what would be considered great Blacktail hunting on our family ranch near Mt Diablo. I killed my share every year and usually took the best to come out of those hills. Problem was, we never saw the really big boys during the season. There weren't many to begin with but there were a few, you'd see them heavy in the rut about Thanksgiving, that might be considered world class.
Also, i hunted a lot with my best friend on their place across on the other side of the valley. There, the bucks had more what it takes to grow larger racks and they did indeed. Neither of us killed any "Book" type bucks but we saw a few...on "others" property. My friends family had a right of way thru a guy's property to get from one ranch to another. This other guy's holdings included a township, 6 sections X 6 sections and at the time they allowed no hunting. Keeping it short, you just can't believe the huge 4x4 bucks that we had to drive right by. When you're 16 years old and you see a huge buck like you always wanted, it's tougher than blazes to just look, believe me!! I hear they sell Elk hunts there now, some may be familiar, the Connolly ranch. Back in the 60's and early 70's, there were some toad Blackies in that country.
I guess the point of my asking in this thread. To me, a Toad Blacktail is just as great a trophy as a toad Muley. That's my opinion. I posted this to hear yours
the other Joey