Who freaking cares? Their are hunters(DIY and guides) and then there are the dudes that hire them. Doyle is a good hunter(his spotters are better, they actually find the animals). So mossback has spent the year watching an elk, then some dude forks out the cash to go shoot it,(and he has to cover mossbacks expenses on top of the tag), is he a hunter? NO!!! He is a shooter, I am as impressed with these guys as I am some dude at a gun range, what is the difference? Someone sets up a target(elk, deer) and it gets shot, WOW. I realize their are places that require you hire guides, nothing you can do about it, but for the others, I will never understand why. I don't blame the guides, any more than I blame Coors for drunk driving, I just don't understand why you want to hunt, then pay someone to cut out the hunting part so you can shoot. Don't tell me how hard you hunt with a guide, if this is true, why did you pay the guide? GO KILL EVERY FREAK bull/buck in the world MOSSBACK (and others) I don't care any more than I care what stockbroker, pilot, limo driver, landscaper, caddy or personal assistant some Denny(or whatever rich guy) uses. DIY is hunting, spin it, twist it, shout at the ceiling, DIY is hunting.