Thanks for everyones opinion. After several trips to Sportman Warehouse and another dealer I decided upon a pair of binoculars. I did look throgh a few pairs of Vortex, but the dealer didn't seem to interested in helping me and could not really determine how good they were and Sportman had no Vortex's to obtain an honest to goodness comparison. In my opinion in the $300 price range the Monarch's cannot be beat, they seem to match most glass in the 700 to 800 dollar price range. I really liked the Pentax DCF ED, but didn't want to spend $1100, then I found a new pair for $700, a deal I couldn't pass up so I got the, "or what", on my post? The Pentax's are extremely bright in low light their clarity is excellent, better than the Monarch's, but not as good as the Swaro EL's. Everyone wants to compare cheaper binoculars to one of the big three, but to get that kind of clarity it looks like to me you have to pay for it. Maybe one of these days, but right now the 10 X 43 DCF ED's I got, are pretty darn close.