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Wall of silence broken at state's Muslim public school
By KATHERINE KERSTEN, Star Tribune

Last update: April 9, 2008 - 12:45 PM

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Recently, I wrote about Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy (TIZA), a K-8 charter school in Inver Grove Heights. Charter schools are public schools and by law must not endorse or promote religion.

Evidence suggests, however, that TIZA is an Islamic school, funded by Minnesota taxpayers.

TIZA has many characteristics that suggest a religious school. It shares the headquarters building of the Muslim American Society of Minnesota, whose mission is "establishing Islam in Minnesota." The building also houses a mosque. TIZA's executive director, Asad Zaman, is a Muslim imam, or religious leader, and its sponsor is an organization called Islamic Relief.

Students pray daily, the cafeteria serves halal food - permissible under Islamic law -- and "Islamic Studies" is offered at the end of the school day.

Zaman maintains that TIZA is not a religious school. He declined, however, to allow me to visit the school to see for myself, "due to the hectic schedule for statewide testing." But after I e-mailed him that the Minnesota Department of Education had told me that testing would not begin for several weeks, Zaman did not respond -- even to urgent calls and e-mails seeking comment before my first column on TIZA.

Now, however, an eyewitness has stepped forward. Amanda Getz of Bloomington is a substitute teacher. She worked as a substitute in two fifth-grade classrooms at TIZA on Friday, March 14. Her experience suggests that school-sponsored religious activity plays an integral role at TIZA.

Arriving on a Friday, the Muslim holy day, she says she was told that the day's schedule included a "school assembly" in the gym after lunch.

Before the assembly, she says she was told, her duties would include taking her fifth-grade students to the bathroom, four at a time, to perform "their ritual washing."

Afterward, Getz said, "teachers led the kids into the gym, where a man dressed in white with a white cap, who had been at the school all day," was preparing to lead prayer. Beside him, another man "was prostrating himself in prayer on a carpet as the students entered."

"The prayer I saw was not voluntary," Getz said. "The kids were corralled by adults and required to go to the assembly where prayer occurred."

Islamic Studies was also incorporated into the school day. "When I arrived, I was told 'after school we have Islamic Studies,' and I might have to stay for hall duty," Getz said. "The teachers had written assignments on the blackboard for classes like math and social studies. Islamic Studies was the last one -- the board said the kids were studying the Qu'ran. The students were told to copy it into their planner, along with everything else. That gave me the impression that Islamic Studies was a subject like any other."

After school, Getz's fifth-graders stayed in their classroom and the man in white who had led prayer in the gym came in to teach Islamic Studies. TIZA has in effect extended the school day -- buses leave only after Islamic Studies is over. Getz did not see evidence of other extra-curricular activity, except for a group of small children playing outside. Significantly, 77 percent of TIZA parents say that their "main reason for choosing TIZA ... was because of after-school programs conducted by various non-profit organizations at the end of the school period in the school building," according to a TIZA report. TIZA may be the only school in Minnesota with this distinction.

Why does the Minnesota Department of Education allow this sort of religious activity at a public school? According to Zaman, the department inspects TIZA regularly -- and has done so "numerous times" -- to ensure that it is not a religious school.

But the department's records document only three site visits to TIZA in five years -- two in 2003-04 and one in 2007, according to Assistant Commissioner Morgan Brown. None of the visits focused specifically on religious practices.
 
If this was a Christian issue the ACLU would be all over this like white on rice!



"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
The ACLU will be all over it if it is true, which it sounds like. The ACLU is not the evil empire many MMers try to make it out to be. It does a lot of good reigning in groups, when one chrisitian church tries to overpower another in public education. I've watched it happen many times. Minnesota Dept. of Ed. will be all over this it is my guess, this is exactly why regulatory agencies must do what they are supposed to do. Charters schools have more freedoms and that could partially explain this although not excuse it.
 
>The ACLU will be all over
>it if it is true,
>which it sounds like.
>The ACLU is not the
>evil empire many MMers try
>to make it out to
>be. It does a
>lot of good

This may be the funniest thing you have ever posted. Are you really trying to say the ACLU is looking out for everybody, and that they have no bias'?

They have PROVEN time after time of having selective outrage over issues like this, depending on the POLITICS of it. They have yet to go after Muslims like they have Christians. Funny chit right there indeed!

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Do you know anything about the ACLU? When and why were they founded? Look up some of their recent cases? Look up their mission statement? Do some homework and then I might be willing to point out to you how and where they have stood on the conservative side of issues that went against The Constitution.
 
Pro This one will get you started there is a bunch more.

The ACLU of West Virginia (2007) sued on behalf of a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) university student who won a prestigious scholarship to West Virginia University. Although the state scholarship board provided leaves of absence for military, medical, and family reasons, it denied the ACLU's client a leave of absence to serve on a 2-year mission for his church. The ACLU filed a religious freedom claim in federal court.
www.aclu-wv.org/Newsroom/PressReleases/07_19_07.html
 
Another for you Pro.

The ACLU of New Jersey (2007) defended the right of an elementary school student who was prohibited from singing "Awesome God" in a voluntary, after-school talent show for which students selected their own material. The ACLU submitted a friend-of-the-Court brief. After a favorable settlement was reached for the student, the federal lawsuit was dismissed.
www.aclu.org/religion/schools/25799prs20060605.html
 
Are you understanding yet Pro?

The ACLU of Louisiana (2006) filed a lawsuit defending the right of a Christian who wished to exercise both religious and speech rights by protesting against homosexuality in front of a Wal-Mart store with a sign that read: "Christians: Wal-Mart Supports Gay Marriage and Gay Lifestyles. Don't Shop There."
www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/27266prs20061027.html
 
Cherry picker there Corn?
Cherry pick a case for us against muslims please.


"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
202 Cherry picking involves only choosing one there are hundreds in answer to the quote that the ACLU never protects Christians as stated by pro. As far as finding one on Muslims go ahead I'm sure you have more time than me I have to go to work.

"This may be the funniest thing you have ever posted. Are you really trying to say the ACLU is looking out for everybody, and that they have no bias'?

They have PROVEN time after time of having selective outrage over issues like this, depending on the POLITICS of it. They have yet to go after Muslims like they have Christians. Funny chit right there indeed!"

PRO
 
Cornhusker;

I am another one that does not think the ACLU is as great as you do. I am still bitter over a case here in my county where the ACLU sued the county over prisnor's rights while in jail.
As a result of that lawsuit, we had to place a color T.V. set in every cell block, not just one in the common room. Had to install payphones for them to have 24 hour access to. had to supply and maintain a complete up to date law library for their use. Build a new and larger excersise area on the roof of the jail. All this at taxpayers expense. Then the ACLU turned around and sued again for the $70,000 in court cost and the taxpayers had to pay that. As a result now, we have to replace numerous T.V's every year due to damage. The jailbirds use the phones to call their victims to make threats because they had the A-hole arrested.
I have found the ACLU attorneys to be about the most liberal, most non mainstream thinking idiots I have ever had the displeasure to meet. I feel that all federal funding, taxpayers dollars should be taken away from them and they can fund their own liberal way of life.
RELH
 
My words from an earlier post: "They have PROVEN time after time of having selective outrage over issues like this, depending on the POLITICS of it. They have yet to go after Muslims like they have Christians. Funny chit right there indeed!"

Cornhusker's response: "202 Cherry picking involves only choosing one there are hundreds in answer to the quote that the ACLU never protects Christians as stated by pro. As far as finding one on Muslims go ahead I'm sure you have more time than me I have to go to work."

Notice how I said something completely different than what Corn implied I said. I NEVER said the ACLU never protects Christians, I said they do NOT go after Muslims like they do Christians. If you can't see the BIG difference between the two, then no wonder you think Hagel is a Conservative. You're getting funnier by the post! Cherry picking from posts as badly as cherry picking ACLU cases. Classic.

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-11-08 AT 02:41PM (MST)[p]They have PROVEN time after time of having selective outrage over issues like this, depending on the POLITICS of it. They have yet to go after Muslims like they have Christians. Funny chit right there indeed!

PRO

I may have taken your post wrong. I assumed that the reference to selective outrage was leading to the fact that they generally are considered to have a liberal agenda which is not always the case.

RELH I am not necessarily a huge fan of the ACLU as I myself have had received the cease and deisist letter or else. I was simply present as a school represenative before games when players said a prayer. I was wrong, we changed how we did things so I guess I am on their watch list. They do go overboard as in the case you experienced. I am just greatfull that their is an organization willing to fight to maintain civil liberties and keep government organizations in line.

On a positive note a public school my kids went to was constantly having a group of fundalmentalist speakers who were very anti-catholic. A very strong fundamentalist group kept badgering a weak principal to have access. I didn't contact the ACLU but an angry parent did and they stopped that group of speakers from the school so it does go both ways. I believe they go overboard on many things but then so do most organization some of which I belong to.
 
"I may have taken your post wrong. I assumed that the reference to selective outrage was leading to the fact that they generally are considered to have a liberal agenda which is not always the case."

I DO indeed believe the ACLU has a liberal agenda for the most part, but that is different than what you said earlier. The ACLU does gravitate to liberal 'causes' more than conservative 'causes'. That is more plain than the obvious left leaning of the 'main stream' media. BOTH have more proof than global warming being man made, and since you seem to believe the later, you must then believe the former. Yes?

You said generally and always to describe the SAME thing. How is that possible? They DO 'generally' lean left, but not 'always' obviously. Otherwise it would be me saying, "they ALWAYS lean left". See the difference?

I'm still waiting for what you were looking for on the 4th Amendment.???

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Alright! I know you're trying to screw with me and thats fine I can hardly follow what your point is and I'm not sure I want to.
The 4th amendment is a search and seizure amendment. Please show me where I referred to it as far as how the ACLU deals with it. I realize they most often take the side of suspects in search & seizure cases but otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about. I can google up a couple hundred 4th Amendment cases but I don't know what good that will do. Have a good evening because I'm done.
 
This place is in my hometown and didn't know it existed till the Star Tribune reported it!

"Whatever you are, be a good one."
- Abraham Lincoln
 
The only reason ACLU is on it now is because of the outcry and the pointing out that the ACLU unfairly targets Christians.


"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-08 AT 11:02AM (MST)[p]>The only reason ACLU is on
>it now is because of
>the outcry and the pointing
>out that the ACLU unfairly
>targets Christians.
>
>
>"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot
> Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)

Also, what does "looking into it" mean? I see that as nothing but PR. Until the ACLU actually takes this kind of garbage head on with the same vigor as they do Christians, I am not buying this. This is NOT the first time this type of thing has happened, and yet the ACLU has strangely been AWOL.

PRO


Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) and the ACLU are actually great, great buddies. CAIR, peopled by some of Islams greatest thinkers, lawyers, politicians and a few terrorists, uses the ACLU (and thus some of your tax money) as a broadsword against anything that they "construe" to be against Islam or Arabs. I think, all in all, that the school mentioned above will be able to continue with its religous studies because, what is Islam without the teachings of the Quoran?

To counter Corns somewhat disturbing affectation to all things liberal:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005871.php

They [ACLU} really are a pathetic group of lawyers who will defend everyone, even the monsters who want to legally prey on children. To wit, their associatian with NAMBLA

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000831/aponline171914_000.htm

And finally, Roger Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU and card carrying communist said this:

?I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class? Communism is the goal.?
 
I'm guessing corn will spin this somehow. Because we all know NAMBLA is operating just as the Founding Fathers intended. Maybe corn is "looking into it".

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
NAMBLA......................ROFLMAO.............classic.


"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 

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