wow, i figured everybody would love them! i was all ready to sell my lieca 1200's, then a buddy bought the 1500 yd model, junk! i could sit with him and range out to 800 yards offhand,we had touble getting his to read at 400 yds. and the angle meter isn't all its craked up to be, unless your on a 90% grade, even then its not that useful! glad i kept the lieca's.and he is glad he sill has his bushnell's to use instead!