Not a hater at all and I've probably helped more people on this, and other sites, than you can count to, including making colored maps with waypoints on them for a few people! I was just making a general statement to the other member and not referring specifically to you! I've just found that if you get your feet wet on a BB first and try offering some advice before asking for any that it seems to work better than asking on a first post---just sayin and that's my and other's opinion, but not every-one's. And for Zeke, how about a funny one addressed to hornkiller since I made my post to him, but maybe you're on a roll, hehe! PS: None of my maps had the tree to sit behind though, LOL!