I know you are passionately against LR hunting, especially for mule deer, like a lot of members are. Since I didn't want to hijack the aerial scouting thread jm77 started I decide to start this thread regarding Robb Wiley and his business. In case you aren't aware of it, he's now catering to LR hunters with several hunts just for them the next two years and has even joined with Len Backus to sponsor a LR training school at his place next summer. Take a look at the LRH site Backus runs and there are a bunch of threads regarding Robb and all the big deer they are taking. Between possibly spotting by aerial means, he's now going to take more and more of these trophy deer at distances where they have no chance at survival if they are out during daylight hours! It looks to me like this is just one of many outfitters like jm77 and BuzzH are talking about that is only out to make money any way he can and not put anything back into the resource!