Jimmy Carter is a SKUNK

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I am sorry, but this guy has just gone way too far. I respect any man that has served this country. I rtespect Carter for his service but as of now, his actions have gone over the line. The man is a disgrace to this country. Someone needs to shake him!!!!



Jimmy Carter Lays A Wreath at Arafat's Tomb

Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:07 PM

By: Julie Stahl

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter laid a wreath of red roses at the grave of Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat during a visit to the West Bank City of Ramallah on Tuesday.

"He and Mrs. Carter and his son Jeff wanted to pay their respects to President Arafat," Carter's trip director Rick Jasculca told Cybercast News Service. But the former president didn't make any comments there, he said.

Dubbed the "godfather of terrorism," Arafat was linked to the deaths of two American diplomats in the Sudan in 1973 -- one of many terror acts laid at his feet. (See earlier story)

Twenty years later, Arafat became the first PLO leader to sign a peace agreement with an Israeli Prime Minister -- Yitzhak Rabin -- in 1993. He was considered Israel's peace partner (although many Israelis never believed it) until the beginning of the violent Palestinian uprising in September 2000. Arafat managed the terror war against Israel until his death in 2004.

U.S. officials have emphasized that Carter is visiting the Middle East as a private citizen and not as a representative of the U.S. government.

On Tuesday, the Israeli government refused Carter's request to visit Hamas-controlled Gaza. The former U.S. leader has angered the Israeli government over plans to meet Hamas's top leader, Khaled Mashaal, in Syria on Friday.

Most visiting American dignitaries -- including President Bush -- have avoided Arafat's tomb. Michaela Schweitzer-Bluhm, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem that handles Palestinian affairs, told Cybercast News Service that no active U.S. Executive Branch member had ever laid a wreath on Arafat's grave.

Carter first met Arafat in 1990, when Arafat was leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization. According to a New York Times report, Carter praised Arafat as a peacemaker.

Years later, Carter led an international team in observing the first Palestinian Authority elections that gave Arafat the presidency. (Carter also observed the 2006 elections that brought Hamas an overwhelming parliamentary majority.)

Arafat was the most frequent visitor to President Bill Clinton's White House. President Bush also dealt with Arafat at the beginning of his presidency, but after the Palestinian leader lied to Bush in early 2002 about a huge shipment of Iranian weapons bound for the P.A., he was shunned until his death in November 2004.

On Tuesday, Carter also had lunch with a dozen or so Palestinian civil society leaders and had what was described as a "wonderful round table" discussion with Palestinian youths that he and his wife enjoyed immensely, said Jasculca.

As President Carter travels around the Middle East he is "eager to hear viewpoints" about peace and the peace process. "Instead of talking, he's doing a lot of listening," said Jasculca.

"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
Jimmy Carter is no skunk.........he is a traitorous bastard that would be hung for sedition if this were still a strong and sane country.

JB
 
Good thing we have so many experts on the middle east around here.

We have things going so well over there Carter could upset the apple cart couldn't he? until someone comes up with a plan to solve the Israel-Palisine problem better than what Clinton and Bush have done I say anyone may as well take a shot at it.

We've tried nothing and it hasn't worked.
 
As usual it's a little more complicated than that. Seems the beloved Pres. Reagan opened up talks with the PLO.

Following Israel's invasion of Lebanon in early June 1982, on September 1, 1982, President Reagan outlined what came to be called the Reagan Plan. This plan upheld the goals of the Camp David Accords regarding autonomy for the Palestinians of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and disapproved of Israel's establishment of any new settlements in these areas. It further proposed that at the end of a transitional period, the best form of government for the West Bank and the Gaza Strip would be self-government by the resident Palestinian population in association with Jordan. Under the plan, Israel would be obliged to withdraw from the occupied territories in exchange for peace, and the city of Jerusalem would remain undivided; its final status would be decided through negotiations. The plan rejected the creation of an independent Palestinian state. Although Labor leader Peres expressed support for the plan, Prime Minister Menachem Begin and the Likud opposed it, as did the PLO and the Arab states. The plan was subsequently shelved.

The United States nevertheless continued its efforts to facilitate Arab-Israeli peace. In March 1987, the United States undertook intensive diplomatic negotiations with Jordan and Israel to achieve agreement on holding an international peace conference, but differences over Palestinian representation created obstacles. In Israel, Likud prime minister Shamir and Labor minister of foreign affairs Peres were at odds, with Shamir rejecting an international conference and Peres accepting it. Peres and Labor Party minister of defense Rabin reportedly held talks with Jordan's King Hussein, who wanted the conference to include the five permanent members of the UN Security Council, as well as Israel, the Arab states, and the PLO. The Reagan administration, on the other hand, was reluctant to invite the Soviet Union to participate in the diplomatic process. The administration insisted that any prospective conference adjourn speedily and then take the form of direct talks between Israel and Jordan. The administration also insisted that the conference have no power to veto any agreement between Israel and Jordan.

A major difficulty involved the nature of Palestinian representation at a conference. A Soviet-Syrian communiqu? repeated the demand for PLO participation, which Israel flatly rejected. The United States asserted that, as the basis for any PLO participation, the PLO must accept UN Resolutions 242 and 338 with their implied recognition of Israel's right to exist. Both the PLO mainstream and its radical wings were unwilling to agree to this demand. The Palestinian uprising (intifadah) in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip began in December 1987. In February 1988, Secretary of State George Shultz visited Israel, Egypt, Jordan, and Syria; in a statement issued in Jerusalem he called for Palestinian participation, as part of a Jordanian/Palestinian delegation, in an international peace conference. The PLO rejected this initiative. The United States proposal called for a comprehensive peace providing for the security of all states in the region and for fulfillment of the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people. The proposal consisted of an "integrated whole" and included the following negotiating framework: "early negotiations between Israel and each of its neighbors willing to do so," with the door "specifically open for Syrian participation"; "bilateral negotiations . . . based on United Nations Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338 in all their parts"; "the parties to each bilateral negotiation" to determine "the procedure and agenda of the negotiation"; "negotiations between an Israeli and a Jordanian/Palestinian delegation on arrangements for a transitional period for the West Bank and Gaza," with the objective of completing "these talks within six months"; and "final status negotiations" beginning "on a date certain seven months after the start of transitional talks," with the objective of completing the talks "within a year."

On March 26, 1988, Shultz met with two members of the Palestine National Council (PNC), which represents Palestinians outside Israel various political and guerrilla groups with the PLO, and associated youth, student, women's and professional bodies. According to a PLO spokesman, the PNC members, Professors Ibrahim Abu Lughod and Edward Said, both Arab Americans, were authorized by Yasir Arafat to speak to Shultz, and they later reported directly to the PLO leader about their talks. Little resulted from this meeting, however, and Shultz found no authoritative party willing to come to the conference table.

The United States once again involved itself in the peace process to break the stalemate among the Arab states, the Palestinians, and Israel following King Hussein's declaration on July 31, 1988, that he was severing most of Jordan's administrative and legal ties with the West Bank, thus throwing the future of the West Bank onto the PLO's shoulders. PLO chairman Yasir Arafat thereby gained new international status, but Shultz barred him from entering the United States to address the UN General Assembly in early December because of Arafat's and the PLO's involvement in terrorist activities. When Arafat, following his December 14 address to a special session of the UN General Assembly in Geneva, met American conditions by recognizing Israel's right to exist in "peace and security," accepted UN Resolutions 242 and 338, and renounced "all forms of terrorism, including individual, group and state terrorism," the United States reversed its thirteen-year policy of not officially speaking to the PLO.

The Israeli National Unity Government, installed in late December, denounced the PLO as an unsuitable negotiating partner. It did not accept the PLO's recognition of Israel and renunciation of terrorism as genuine.

Whether the United States-PLO talks would yield concrete results in terms of Arab-Israeli peace making remained to be seen as of the end of 1988. Notwithstanding the possibility of future progress, the new willingness of the United States to talk to the PLO demonstrated that, despite the special relationship between the United States and Israel and the many areas of mutual agreement and shared geopolitical strategic interests, substantial differences continued to exist between the United States and certain segments of the Israeli government. This was especially true with regard to the Likud and its right-wing allies.
 
You're in the right camp Mosnar. Reagan couldn't remember anything either!

RUS
 
Good read Rus. I'm not so sure there is a solution to this conflict but blind ignorance and hate is what caused it and it doesn't appear it's going to resolve it.

The Israel -Palistine conflict is ground zero in the war on terror since it 's what started our problems with the rag heads in the first place. if a former president showing respect for a popular leader of one side of the fight can help in any way go for it. it might get all the tough guys panties in a wad seeing it but considering how well their ideas have worked who cares what they think.
 
Dude, Osama is 'beloved' and respected by many in that neck of the woods. Is Carter going to 'honor' him as well?

PRO

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jimmy Carter is just doing what he does best, turning the other cheek!!! I do not think he is a traitor, but those people, and many others quit taking Carter serious even when he was in the white house. They are just using him for the good press it gives them to make everyone think they are peaceful and loving people and not the terroists as they have been though of in the past.
Carter could not make peace with Iran when he was in office, and I doublt if he has a snow ball's chance over there.

RELH
 
Jimmy Carter is on a trip to the Middle East to remind us that he was the worst President of the 20th century.
 
The guy who set up the 9/11 attacks is still free 7 years later and you tough guys are bad mouthing Carter for trying to solve the problem at it's roots. if you can't be tough don't talk tough, you haven't shown anybody anything other than Saddam and he wasn't trhe problem in the first place. funny stuff.
 
"Trying to stop the problem at it's roots"? Good grief, ikt was Carter who helped get us into this problem when he was President and started this who radical Islam mess. This has little to do with Palestine, that is just an 'excuse' for their actions.

PRO

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Lying a wreath at the grave of one of the biggest if not the biggest terrorist in modern times is INSANE!!!!!!


"Thanks climate PhD 202" - TFinalshot Feb-05-08, 02:16 PM (MST)
 
I am old enough to recal Jimmy carter campaigning for the presidency. His "I will make changes" approach reminds me of what Barack H. Obama is saying now as he campaigns for President. I am wondering if these far left Liberals will govern in a similar fashion? Carter had the least impressive Presidency of my lifetime. Clinton was a close second. We now can thank Clinton for the Chinese domination of imports into the USA and for allowing the Terrorists to feel they can do just about anything to this country without expecting a response. I guess they may have learned that is not so!

TM
 
One of the worst (if not the worst) presidents in modern times.

Jimmy Carter runs around on these so called "peace keeping" missions to try to make up for a failed presidency.
 
Here is a story on this smucks visit with Hamas: http://real-us.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_on_re_mi_ea/carter_palestinians


"Carter's meeting with Hamas chief Khaled Mashaal followed two other meetings between the former American president and the Palestinian militant group in the Middle East this week. Hamas officials say the meetings have lent their group legitimacy." Notice the last sentence. How does giving a terrorist org "legitimacy" help on the war on terror exactly?

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 

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