Is Randy Newberg consistent in fighting for NR hunting?

[vansterdam123]

Randy Newberg acquires TWO Nevada turn back Antelope buck tags for BOTH him and his son in 2022. A very generous turn back program for non-residents of Nevada and lightning strikes the Newbergs twice.

But then Randy fights against NR interests when a Montana legislator tries to expand the "Come Home to Hunt program" to include spouses.

Is Randy Newberg consistent? Or is he a NIMBY when his own state wants to do something generous for a non-resident spouse of a native Montanan?

Take huge advantage of a Nevada generosity but then fight against his own state reciprocating that generosity for others?

 

[Tristate]

 

[WapitiBob]

How many of those nr handout programs does montana need to have for fk sakes? And most are smart enough to know the difference between the addl montana nr tag handouts and a nevada tag that's been turned back.

 

[SPAZ]

Montana gives WAY WAY WAY too many non resident and resident elk licenses away. Come home to hunt program is a FARCE.

 

[mulecreek]

Your poll is F'ed up. Advocating for a system of tag distribution and taking advantage of existing systems are two very different things.

 

[Homer]

Third choice is particularly stupid......Obviously they spent the required online time per the way fcfs works to capture 2 tags.....

 

[hawkbill]

What a stupid thread, you can have Randy and the rest of them

 

[wytex]

Did you try to get one of those "tags" ?

 

[Sparks Shooter]

Don't know anything about Montana and can't blame Randy for taking full advantage of the loophole in a Nevada program that allows hundreds of tags from the Resident allocation to be redistributed to non residents.

Shame on the residents of Nevada for continuing to allow this to happen. Fortunately, I think enough of us are finally complaining to the right people and I am anticipating big changes to the FCFS program that would ensure that Resident tags are only available to Nevada residents. -----SS

 

[elks96]

He fights for public lands and public land access. NR allocation is not really his ball game and it never has been.

 

[elks96]

Randy Newberg acquires TWO Nevada turn back Antelope buck tags for BOTH him and his son in 2022. A very generous turn back program for non-residents of Nevada and lightning strikes the Newbergs twice.

But then Randy fights against NR interests when a Montana legislator tries to expand the "Come Home to Hunt program" to include spouses.

Is Randy Newberg consistent? Or is he a NIMBY when his own state wants to do something generous for a non-resident spouse of a native Montanan?

Take huge advantage of a Nevada generosity but then fight against his own state reciprocating that generosity for others?

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Sounds like your upset you can get your mail order bride a license???

 

[Homer]

Don't know anything about Montana and can't blame Randy for taking full advantage of the loophole in a Nevada program that allows hundreds of tags from the Resident allocation to be redistributed to non residents.

Shame on the residents of Nevada for continuing to allow this to happen. Fortunately, I think enough of us are finally complaining to the right people and I am anticipating big changes to the FCFS program that would ensure that Resident tags are only available to Nevada residents. -----SS

I thought that "loophole" was closed this year??.....

 

[Bux n Dux]

You’re missing the “Randy Newberg is a clown and an enemy to public land, DIY hunters and is contributing to the destruction of wildlife and hunters who live on and use public lands” option

 

[nfh]

Montana gives WAY WAY WAY too many non resident and resident elk licenses away. Come home to hunt program is a FARCE.

But on the nr nonresident general deer combo isn't there 4300 tags and 40 something percent goes to outfitters?

 

[antlerradar]

Come home to hunt program is a FARCE.

No kidding! I wish could have convinced a few more people and eliminated them from the proposal that went to the legislature.

 

[junior]

Is this Bowsite? Where am I?

 

[Largebull]

He does a good Job looking out for Himself....................BULL!

 

[Tikka]

He does a fantastic job, at taking a decent unit exploiting the sh!t out of it… Then moving to the next one to do it all over again…

 

[vansterdam123]

It’s great that Randy Newberg & son had an improbable NV (non-resident) family buck pronghorn hunt (2 tags). Maybe the first ever such Nevada NR family buck pronghorn hunt against such long odds. (Different units, same dates)

Just interesting that he would then oppose the MT legislature when they are making efforts to give a very similar family experience to the spouses of NR Native Montanans.

That is NIMBY political activity (Not In My BackYard).

Note: I do NOT have a MT native spouse.

 

[Homer]

Most here are fluent on NIMBY

 

[BuzzH]

Nothing better for me than a Republican super majority in Montana.

Waiting for the $200 lifetime big game combo license for Montana Natives.

That better pass or I'm no longer going to donate to any more Republican campaigns.

I mean they did ok with allowing me multiple $80 elk tags, $64 deer tags and lots of half price combo tags...but I bet they can do better.

 

[Keystone]

While Buzz and others were getting ready for the fight on corner crossing, Randy was MIA.

So, yeah he fights, but on perhaps the most important public land fight in recent history, it was not just crickets but he made public the fact he didn't want the fight.

Not sure about these tags, but his "contract" work for AZFG, kinda soured me on rhe selfless public land warrior narrative he's spun. Didn't mean he was the only one doing so, but none of them are "creating advocates..........", while taking a paycheck on the backside.

And before the fan boys jump in, yes he did acknowledge the "contract", but only AFTER it became public.

Just reinforced the "follow the money" advice folks give

 

[idahohuntr]

While Buzz and others were getting ready for the fight on corner crossing, Randy was MIA.

So, yeah he fights, but on perhaps the most important public land fight in recent history, it was not just crickets but he made public the fact he didn't want the fight.

Not sure about these tags, but his "contract" work for AZFG, kinda soured me on rhe selfless public land warrior narrative he's spun. Didn't mean he was the only one doing so, but none of them are "creating advocates..........", while taking a paycheck on the backside.

And before the fan boys jump in, yes he did acknowledge the "contract", but only AFTER it became public.

Just reinforced the "follow the money" advice folks give

Nobody is perfect. I was very disappointed in his engagement on corner crossing...and agree he and many others with their incessant 'content' production have not been a help to average sportsmen. On the other hand, he's done a tremendous amount of good and displayed sportsman in a much more positive light than clowns like ted nugent on outdoor tv. None of us are perfect...gotta take the good with the bad...and I think its clear Randy has done far more good than bad for sportsmen.

 

[elks96]

While Buzz and others were getting ready for the fight on corner crossing, Randy was MIA.

So, yeah he fights, but on perhaps the most important public land fight in recent history, it was not just crickets but he made public the fact he didn't want the fight.

Not sure about these tags, but his "contract" work for AZFG, kinda soured me on rhe selfless public land warrior narrative he's spun. Didn't mean he was the only one doing so, but none of them are "creating advocates..........", while taking a paycheck on the backside.

And before the fan boys jump in, yes he did acknowledge the "contract", but only AFTER it became public.

Just reinforced the "follow the money" advice folks give

HAHA.... So tell me you did not watch any of his videos on Corner Crossing... He has tackled the issue, and while he feels personally that corner crossing should be legal he also is not sure there is a legal path forward... As a result, his legal advisors (lawyers) said it is unlikely that Corner Crossing will ever be legal on a federal level and as a result why would he spend any time on the issue when there are other issues that he can have an impact on...

Oh and heaven forbid a person actually work and get a benefit from the work they have done.... Seriously, tell me with a straight face that you would not take the AZ deal? Seriously jealously is a sad look...

 

[elks96]

Nobody is perfect. I was very disappointed in his engagement on corner crossing...and agree he and many others with their incessant 'content' production have not been a help to average sportsmen. On the other hand, he's done a tremendous amount of good and displayed sportsman in a much more positive light than clowns like ted nugent on outdoor tv. None of us are perfect...gotta take the good with the bad...and I think its clear Randy has done far more good than bad for sportsmen.

I agree, but really I don't blame him at all for staying out of corner crossing. It is an issue that is not clear and from a federal/large scale level it will be almost impossible to pass. Why would you put your time and effort into an issue that is unlikely to pass or change.... Instead pick fights you can actually win.

 

[Keystone]

HAHA.... So tell me you did not watch any of his videos on Corner Crossing... He has tackled the issue, and while he feels personally that corner crossing should be legal he also is not sure there is a legal path forward... As a result, his legal advisors (lawyers) said it is unlikely that Corner Crossing will ever be legal on a federal level and as a result why would he spend any time on the issue when there are other issues that he can have an impact on...

Oh and heaven forbid a person actually work and get a benefit from the work they have done.... Seriously, tell me with a straight face that you would not take the AZ deal? Seriously jealously is a sad look...

Yet, those same voices that told Buzz, JM and others the same thing, apparently found lawyers who thought differently.

Its not personal, I don't know Randy, he seems like a delightful guy. But when(hopefully), corner crossing wins in court, Randy will be among the voices that sat quiet.

I can't speak for Buzz, but I'm guessing behind the scenes, he was livid that Randy pussed out.


As to the other, if it wasn't a big deal, then why not say so up front? It's not jealousy, hanging g with Hush and Gritty, seems like torture.

Sorry I didn't worship your hero

 

[hossblur]

I agree, but really I don't blame him at all for staying out of corner crossing. It is an issue that is not clear and from a federal/large scale level it will be almost impossible to pass. Why would you put your time and effort into an issue that is unlikely to pass or change.... Instead pick fights you can actually win.

He has a pretty large platform. Would take nothing to pimp out support, even if just voicing it.

Buzz, JM, and those boys from Wyoming, along with Wyoming BHA did a lot of heavy lifting. Meat eater jumped in.

An advocate for public land, should advocate, regardless. Part of being an equal opportunity offender. We are talking about a guy who helicoptered in to hunt a piece, so he violated this magical airspace that is being fought over. I'll assume that vid monetized?

Randy is a hell of a good dude, but in this one he missed the mark, BADLY.

 

[Keystone]

HAHA.... So tell me you did not watch any of his videos on Corner Crossing... He has tackled the issue, and while he feels personally that corner crossing should be legal he also is not sure there is a legal path forward... As a result, his legal advisors (lawyers) said it is unlikely that Corner Crossing will ever be legal on a federal level and as a result why would he spend any time on the issue when there are other issues that he can have an impact on...

Oh and heaven forbid a person actually work and get a benefit from the work they have done.... Seriously, tell me with a straight face that you would not take the AZ deal? Seriously jealously is a sad look...

Like hoss pointed out. I did watch him helicopter in to hunt elk. So did he, does he often film himself breaking the law? Or does he not agree with that whole airspace deal?

Or did he, does he just like the Grey area?

As to the other, I missed the "the following video is a paid advertisement for AZGF". So is he REALLY just enamored with a 20hour drive to shoot ducks and jackrabbit, or does he make infomercials? Why hide the fact that your there under contract if it's not a big deal?

 

[El Gringo]

Is there a “Get a life” option? I choose that one

 

[Gator]

People win the lotto draw all the time BUT THEY DON'T win it everytime.

 

[elks96]

He has a pretty large platform. Would take nothing to pimp out support, even if just voicing it.

Buzz, JM, and those boys from Wyoming, along with Wyoming BHA did a lot of heavy lifting. Meat eater jumped in.

An advocate for public land, should advocate, regardless. Part of being an equal opportunity offender. We are talking about a guy who helicoptered in to hunt a piece, so he violated this magical airspace that is being fought over. I'll assume that vid monetized?

Randy is a hell of a good dude, but in this one he missed the mark, BADLY.

Again flying in was not a violation as the law is written because there is a set am well defined amount of air space.

What exactly would he have done? Oh am I do ask this, what has Buzz, JM77 Meat Eater all done that has changed the result of the case?

I agree that it is an important topic to have settled, but I really don’t understand where all this has gotten us. Right now the standing was/is exactly as it was before the most recent case. It certainly has not changed the federal laws or policy, it has not even changed the WY laws/policy.

So I am wondering what the end result of this stepping up has been?

Can you explain what exactly he should have been doing? After all this is just one small court case in WY. This is not a major case on a national scale. It certainly is important, but what exactly did BHA, and other do that settled this issue. I get the funding to fight the case was important, but I have not seen a draft legislation in WY to clarify the issue, I have not seen any movement on the federal level?

Is there something I am missing?

I watched his videos and I understood what he was saying. I understand why he chose not to jump in the middle of it. Doesn’t make him a bad guy…

 

[andrew12gauge]

The amount of FCFS tags Randy and his crew have gotten the last couple of years kinda makes a guy wonder if maybe he has a deal with NDOW to promote their products

I always wondered why he pimped Arizona so hard before his deal down their came to light

 

[Sparks Shooter]

The amount of FCFS tags Randy and his crew have gotten the last couple of years kinda makes a guy wonder if maybe he has a deal with NDOW to promote their products

I always wondered why he pimped Arizona so hard before his deal down their came to light

Anyone that really thinks Randy or his kid hit the ‘ Add to Cart’ button on those tags needs to wake up.

Rich people don’t play by the same rules, not even people that got rich ‘fighting’ for the little guy.

I know some guys that run a bigger business with lots of admin staff in UT. Thanks to their secretaries, accountants, clerks, etc they have enjoyed 4 deer tags, 2 antelope tags, and a bull elk tag through the NV FCFS in the past 2 years.

It’s just reality and not even worth bothering about. Randy is a rich dude that acts like a rich dude. Can’t blame him for that.

What we can do is make sure that Randy and all other NR hunters aren’t allowed to continue taking tags from NV residents each year. ——SS

 

[hossblur]

Again flying in was not a violation as the law is written because there is a set am well defined amount of air space.

What exactly would he have done? Oh am I do ask this, what has Buzz, JM77 Meat Eater all done that has changed the result of the case?

I agree that it is an important topic to have settled, but I really don’t understand where all this has gotten us. Right now the standing was/is exactly as it was before the most recent case. It certainly has not changed the federal laws or policy, it has not even changed the WY laws/policy.

So I am wondering what the end result of this stepping up has been?

Can you explain what exactly he should have been doing? After all this is just one small court case in WY. This is not a major case on a national scale. It certainly is important, but what exactly did BHA, and other do that settled this issue. I get the funding to fight the case was important, but I have not seen a draft legislation in WY to clarify the issue, I have not seen any movement on the federal level?

Is there something I am missing?

I watched his videos and I understood what he was saying. I understand why he chose not to jump in the middle of it. Doesn’t make him a bad guy…

You seriously jump to conclusions.

I don't think Randy is a bad guy. I've had disagreement with him, and he's always answered me with his point of view in a stand up way.

He should of been doing what Rinella and crew did. Raise awareness. Raise money, etc.

Buzz has me blocked, and I have been very public about my split from BHA. So I'm not a homer for either. But this case, was the best case I've seen for corner crossing. The best chance we as sportsmen have had.

If we lose we lose. Most likely we will win in court, then the deep pockets will buy a law in legislation. But at least, very least, the issue will be solved. As it stands now, it's dependent on a county, or prosecutor.

I happen to know the Wyoming guys are pissed as hell Randy sat on his ass on this one.

He made a choice, a bad one in my view. He's made others, including showing up at the expo, and doing infomercials for AZGF.

But in a "career" as long as he's had, doing public land advocacy, he done a TON more good than bad.

And, dude has balls. I'm betting eventually he surfaces on this thread. Compare that to Gritty, Hush, MTN Ops, Born and Raised, Cory Jacobsen, and the rest of the Instafamous, DIY public land dudes, and there is no comparison.

 

[WapitiBob]

and the clowns have surfaced

 

[BuzzH]

Again flying in was not a violation as the law is written because there is a set am well defined amount of air space.

What exactly would he have done? Oh am I do ask this, what has Buzz, JM77 Meat Eater all done that has changed the result of the case?

I agree that it is an important topic to have settled, but I really don’t understand where all this has gotten us. Right now the standing was/is exactly as it was before the most recent case. It certainly has not changed the federal laws or policy, it has not even changed the WY laws/policy.

So I am wondering what the end result of this stepping up has been?

Can you explain what exactly he should have been doing? After all this is just one small court case in WY. This is not a major case on a national scale. It certainly is important, but what exactly did BHA, and other do that settled this issue. I get the funding to fight the case was important, but I have not seen a draft legislation in WY to clarify the issue, I have not seen any movement on the federal level?

Is there something I am missing?

I watched his videos and I understood what he was saying. I understand why he chose not to jump in the middle of it. Doesn’t make him a bad guy…

You really are a dense one...ask yourself what happens by not fighting the criminal case in Wyoming.

Plus, you don't know what's going on with the issue enough to be making the statements you are.

 

[Pokes]

Your poll doesn’t have ‘who fxcking cares’ listed.

 

[Tikka]

Your poll doesn’t have ‘who fxcking cares’ listed.

Pokes, you have the best avatar so far!

 

[elks96]

You really are a dense one...ask yourself what happens by not fighting the criminal case in Wyoming.

Plus, you don't know what's going on with the issue enough to be making the statements you are.

Oh no buzz is here to talk down to everyone…

Yes I know what is going on. But instead of answering any questions I proposed. Even if this case is settled here in WY. Will it settle the issue on a national level? No it is a baby step, and ultimately it will not magically create the solution.
If this ever ends up at the Supreme Court, which is likely at some point, I am not optimistic about the outcome.

So again, tell me what difference it would have made either way? Randy took a neutral position. He did not oppose or support corner crossing… So either way what would have done?

It’s ok though we all know that the Biden Hunter Association is on it…

 

[jm77]

Randy took a neutral position. He did not oppose or support corner crossing…

I beg to differ. Randy initially took the position that corner crossing was a violation of private property rights. Randy hired lawyers to look into it. One of their conclusions was this case should be in Federal court and looked into as a violation of the UIA. To criticise any one person or group at this stage in this process seems far too premature and honestly very misinformed.

You think this case in question should have already been decided in total? If you believe that, you clearly have lack of understanding as to how the process works.

But, no doubt, if public land users were to get a victory and corner crossing was legal "on the books" after this, I see you plastered all over social media doing it.

 

[elks96]

I beg to differ. Randy initially took the position that corner crossing was a violation of private property rights. Randy hired lawyers to look into it. One of their conclusions was this case should be in Federal court and looked into as a violation of the UIA. To criticise any one person or group at this stage in this process seems far too premature and honestly very misinformed.

You think this case in question should have already been decided in total? If you believe that, you clearly have lack of understanding as to how the process works.

But, no doubt, if public land users were to get a victory and corner crossing was legal "on the books" after this, I see you plastered all over social media doing it.

And a year and half ago almost everyone would have said it is illegal on some level. Even if not a violation of WY law, there was still an overwhelming majority of people who felt that this was illegal.

Now as the process continues, we are seeing a hope of that no longer being the case, but for anyone with Randy’s following and his influence to come out on either side there is huge risk. I am not sure about you, but I am not ready at this time to go jump a corner and test it…. So why would he be expected to come out and tell people that corner crossing is legal? He can offer his opinion. Which is what he did, initially he suggested it was illegal, now he is more neutral on it… Where it ends up is up to the court. It is not up to you or me or any social media influencer…

 

[hossblur]

And a year and half ago almost everyone would have said it is illegal on some level. Even if not a violation of WY law, there was still an overwhelming majority of people who felt that this was illegal.

Now as the process continues, we are seeing a hope of that no longer being the case, but for anyone with Randy’s following and his influence to come out on either side there is huge risk. I am not sure about you, but I am not ready at this time to go jump a corner and test it…. So why would he be expected to come out and tell people that corner crossing is legal? He can offer his opinion. Which is what he did, initially he suggested it was illegal, now he is more neutral on it… Where it ends up is up to the court. It is not up to you or me or any social media influencer…

What's his risk?

He's a DIY, public land hunting content producer, what risk did his platform face?

Randy Newberg private citizen can and should have whatever opinion he wants.


Randy Newberg Hunter, who has created tons of public land advocates(myself included), could have helped raise a chunk of money, and brought media attention.

And what's the downside? We lose, we get no access. That's true now.

 

[Tristate]

What's his risk?

He's a DIY, public land hunting content producer, what risk did his platform face?

Randy Newberg private citizen can and should have whatever opinion he wants.


Randy Newberg Hunter, who has created tons of public land advocates(myself included), could have helped raise a chunk of money, and brought media attention.

And what's the downside? We lose, we get no access. That's true now.

What do you need the money for?

 

[Gator]

Pokes you need to post everyday

 

[hossblur]

What do you need the money for?

Lawyers. Seems they like to be paid

 

[jm77]

And a year and half ago almost everyone would have said it is illegal on some level. Even if not a violation of WY law, there was still an overwhelming majority of people who felt that this was illegal.

That is not remotely true. My best take on what people thought before was over half thought it wasn't illegal.

Now as the process continues, we are seeing a hope of that no longer being the case, but for anyone with Randy’s following and his influence to come out on either side there is huge risk.

What? Just exactly what part of "Randy's following" is against access to public land. That comment is quite laughable. Randy's biggest risk was doing what he did and his following going against him. Which many did.

So why would he be expected to come out and tell people that corner crossing is legal?

No one expected this. Most expected him to support the cause of the hunters. In other words that it's not illegal.

I am not sure about you, but I am not ready at this time to go jump a corner and test it….

Oct 2022 ask this young man about that.

 

[elkassassin]

Is That a Folding Ladder Hid In The Pack?

That is not remotely true. My best take on what people thought before was over half thought it wasn't illegal.

What? Just exactly what part of "Randy's following" is against access to public land. That comment is quite laughable. Randy's biggest risk was doing what he did and his following going against him. Which many did.

No one expected this. Most expected him to support the cause of the hunters. In other words that it's not illegal.

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[Bluehair]

Your poll doesn’t have ‘who fxcking cares’ listed.

Dude, I need the coordinates of that trailcam spot

 

[Tristate]

Lawyers. Seems they like to be paid

We got told the lawyers were pro-bono. Does that mean we were being lied to?

I think we need independent accounting on what yall are spending money on? Not only is it not transparent, but it is starting to sound fraudulent.

 

[BuzzH]

We got told the lawyers were pro-bono. Does that mean we were being lied to?

I think we need independent accounting on what yall are spending money on? Not only is it not transparent, but it is starting to sound fraudulent.

I have the accounting for every penny...reconciled by a professional.

You didn't donate a penny and are entitled to nothing.

None of your business.

You weren't told anything from those handling this deal.

 

[Vanilla]

“Pro bono” does not mean “free.” Even if lawyers take a case pro bono there are still costs associated.

Except if it’s a dinner that never happened with 3 fake lawyers that don’t exist. That probably wouldn’t cost anything but one’s integrity…

 

[Muley_73]

I hear so many individuals hammer outfitters and guides and organizations for making money off of public resource. Randy is one of the top dogs in making money and a reputation off of a public resource. Yet those same people try and put Randy and others on some sort of pedestal. It makes me chuckle that he has duped so many into thinking he's a voice or the champion of the common hunter.

 

[Tristate]

I have the accounting for every penny...reconciled by a professional.

You didn't donate a penny and are entitled to nothing.

None of your business.

You weren't told anything from those handling this deal.

So now you admit it's costing money.

You lied in that other thread then. I was told that by YOU.

Like I said, it's starting to look like fraud.

 

[Tristate]

“Pro bono” does not mean “free.” Even if lawyers take a case pro bono there are still costs associated.

Except if it’s a dinner that never happened with 3 fake lawyers that don’t exist. That probably wouldn’t cost anything but one’s integrity…

Why does dinner with lawyers cost "integrity"? Are you saying lawyers are that dirty? Or just the one you can answer for?

 

[bojangles]

I am more upset at azgfd than Randy, but not thrilled with Randy either. Between him, Brian Call, and the hushin group they’ve invited the whole world to further decimate AZ’s already precarious deer herds, and that, at the behest of AZGFD.

Now, what was a true otc opportunity is fading fast.

 

[Rie bread]

anyone in montana notice the change in wording in the regs on corner crossing?
2021 use to slightly ambiguous now 2022 clearly says corner crossing is illegal.

 

[Vanilla]

Why does dinner with lawyers cost "integrity"?

It doesn’t. Read again and try again.

 

[Tristate]

It doesn’t. Read again and try again.

How does something that never happened cost anyone anything?

You don't know how logic actually works, do you.

That's why I have to assume you must be accusing lawyers of being integrity killers.

 

[JB1975]

How does something that never happened cost anyone anything?

You don't know how logic actually works, do you.

That's why I have to assume you must be accusing lawyers of being integrity killers.

Logical people don’t assume. Stew on that one a while.

 

[jm77]

So now you admit it's costing money.

You lied in that other thread then. I was told that by YOU.

Like I said, it's starting to look like fraud.

I'm not sure what you have read about this, the defense of the four hunters in the criminal case was not pro bono. The lawyer in the civil case has offered pro bono if funds don't hold up. Other lawyers also have offered pro bono for related services to this case.

You're talking about things you are poorly informed on or just don't take the time to read or find out about.

 

[Tristate]

Logical people don’t assume. Stew on that one a while.

Incorrect. Logical people don't treat assumptions as fact.

 

[Tristate]

I'm not sure what you have read about this, the defense of the four hunters in the criminal case was not pro bono. The lawyer in the civil case has offered pro bono if funds don't hold up. Other lawyers also have offered pro bono for related services to this case.

You're talking about things you are poorly informed on or just don't take the time to read or find out about.

I had a specific conversation on another thread with Buzzh in regards to blowing money, that could be used more effectively, on the lawsuit in an effort to set precedent on conversation crossing. Buzzh claimed it didn't cost anything because it was pro-bono.

I know exactly what I am talking about because I was half of the people in the conversation.

Now other people are talking about Randy should be raising funds for that fight.

 

[jm77]

I had a specific conversation on another thread with Buzzh in regards to blowing money, that could be used more effectively, on the lawsuit in an effort to set precedent on conversation crossing. Buzzh claimed it didn't cost anything because it was pro-bono.

I know exactly what I am talking about because I was half of the people in the conversation.

Now other people are talking about Randy should be raising funds for that fight.

The other thread please?

 

[Vanilla]

Incorrect. Logical people don't treat assumptions as fact.

Yet you do it here every day! It all now makes sense and we appreciate your honesty that you are not logical.

 

[Tristate]

The other thread please?

Go find it.

 

[Tristate]

Yet you do it here every day! It all now makes sense and we appreciate your honesty that you are not logical.

I don't treat anything here as fact. Absolutely nothing.

 

[jm77]

I don't treat anything here as fact. Absolutely nothing.

Yeah you do: everything you say.

You just don't back it up.

 

[Tristate]

Yeah you do: everything you say.

You just don't back it up.

Nobody backs anything up here. Not you. Not me. Nobody.

It's gossip and you choose to believe whatever you want.

 

[jm77]

Nobody backs anything up here. Not you. Not me. Nobody.

It's gossip and you choose to believe whatever you want.

Glad to see you finally admit you're a gossip.

 

[BuzzH]

I had a specific conversation on another thread with Buzzh in regards to blowing money, that could be used more effectively, on the lawsuit in an effort to set precedent on conversation crossing. Buzzh claimed it didn't cost anything because it was pro-bono.

I know exactly what I am talking about because I was half of the people in the conversation.

Now other people are talking about Randy should be raising funds for that fight.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Why if there were no costs associated with the criminal and civil cases would there be a need to raise funds?

You should try hooked on phonics...you're comprehension is as poor as your understanding of the corner crossing case.

 

[Tristate]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Why if there were no costs associated with the criminal and civil cases would there be a need to raise funds?

You should try hooked on phonics...you're comprehension is as poor as your understanding of the corner crossing case.

My reading comprehension is fine. But you and your boys need to get your stories straight before your crusade starts looking like a fraudulent money grab.

 

[Tristate]

Glad to see you finally admit you're a gossip.

I never stated anything different. You seemed shocked to meet the kettle.

 

[BuzzH]

My reading comprehension is fine. But you and your boys need to get your stories straight before your crusade starts looking like a fraudulent money grab.

Hey Cromeens, you might want to start considering and comprehending the definition of libel...

 

[Tristate]

You might want to consider the definition of libel...

I know what the definition is. You might want to start getting your story straight with the keyboard warriors around here.

Go talk to the guys saying you needed Randy's funds.

 

[BuzzH]

I know what the definition is. You might want to start getting your story straight with the keyboard warriors around here.

Go talk to the guys saying you needed Randy's funds.

My story has been straight from the start and with the appropriate folks involved in the corner crossing case.

That's all you need to know.

 

[JB1975]

I know what the definition is. You might want to start getting your story straight with the keyboard warriors around here.

Go talk to the guys saying you needed Randy's funds.

Says the biggest keyboard warrior here. Your Napoleon syndrome is flaring up again lil guy.

 

[Bookhead]

I know what the definition is. You might want to start getting your story straight with the keyboard warriors around here.

Go talk to the guys saying you needed Randy's funds.

You're literally the only one on here that's confused about the fundraising for this case

 

[Tristate]

My story has been straight from the start and with the appropriate folks involved in the corner crossing case.

That's all you need to know.

Good then go threaten the guys that are saying you need Randy's money with libel.

 

[jm77]

Good then go threaten the guys that are saying you need Randy's money with libel.

Gossip.

Keep trying to make the narrative fit your gossip. You're looking more brilliant by the minute!

 

[Tristate]

You're literally the only one on here that's confused about the fundraising for this case

What fundraising?

We need an open audit so we can alllllllll see it.

Are they being transparent?

 

[Tristate]

Gossip.

Keep trying to make the narrative fit your gossip. You're looking more brilliant by the minute!

Yall don't even have a narrative. It's 5 dudes with 5 different stories all acting like they know everything. It's all totally worthless gossip.

 

[lex]

Randy Newberg acquires TWO Nevada turn back Antelope buck tags for BOTH him and his son in 2022. A very generous turn back program for non-residents of Nevada and lightning strikes the Newbergs twice.

It's hardly "lightning striking" twice. I cleared my calendar, deprived myself of sleep, and put my life on hold so I could also get my turn back tags. If you're a persistent SOB, your have decent chances.

 

[BuzzH]

Good then go threaten the guys that are saying you need Randy's money with libel.

We currently have all the money we need from over 2100 generous donations from individuals and businesses.

That is something that myself, WYBHA, the 4 hunters from MO, and several others that have access to the funding are very thankful for.

We've also promised accounting for all of it and we have a professional accountant that has reconciled all the income, expenses, and bank statements.

What you've stated in writing is that somehow there is fraud with the fundraising.

That's an insult to those involved with the case, all of whom have not only donated their money, but thousands of hours of volunteer hours to same. They are all accountable, honest, and have access to all the books.

Time to grow up Cromeens...you can disagree with the cause/case but libeling those involved with fraud is crossing the line.

 

[jm77]

It's all totally worthless gossip.

Yeah you got that down pretty good.

Note to me: Stop feeding the troll!

 

[Tristate]

We currently have all the money we need from over 2100 generous donations from individuals and businesses.

That is something that myself, WYBHA, the 4 hunters from MO, and several others that have access to the funding are very thankful for.

We've also promised accounting for all of it and we have a professional accountant that has reconciled all the income, expenses, and bank statements.

What you've stated in writing is that somehow there is fraud with the fundraising.

That's an insult to those involved with the case, all of whom have not only donated their money, but thousands of hours of volunteer hours to same. They are all accountable, honest, and have access to all the books.

Time to grow up Cromeens...you can disagree with the cause/case but libeling those involved with fraud is crossing the line.

Now that is libel because I never did say it was fraud.

I said other people on here were saying things that contradicted what you had stated on a different thread. I told you to get your story straight with them or it starts to look like fraud.

If anything they libeled your cause but you don't seem to care because it was an attack at me.

 

[Tristate]

I'll cut you a deal Buzzh. You post right here where I said you engaged in fraud and I leave MM for good.

 

[BuzzH]

I'll cut you a deal Buzzh. You post right here where I said you engaged in fraud and I leave MM for good.

When you find yourself in hole, quit digging...or as my late Grandfather used to say, "don't let your alligator mouth over-ride your canary a$$".

Everyone is well aware of what you wrote.

 

[Vanilla]

Nobody backs anything up here. Not you. Not me. Nobody.

(emphasis added)

Followed by this.

My reading comprehension is fine.

I’m starting to really believe tristate is honest when he says he posts things on here that are not facts and he can’t back them up.

 

[Tristate]

When you find yourself in hole, quit digging...or as my late Grandfather used to say, "don't let your alligator mouth over-ride your canary a$$".

Everyone is well aware of what you wrote.

Post it.

Here's your chance.

Did you actually lie and accuse me of something I didn't do?

Do everyone a favor and get rid of me.

 

[BuzzH]

Post it.

Here's your chance.

Did you actually lie and accuse me of something I didn't do?

Do everyone a favor and get rid of me.

I'm disinclined to insult the good folks on MM by reposting what you wrote...they can read.

Its not my desire to get rid of anyone, my desire is to inform the hunting/fishing/ and public land recreationists, with the facts of what's transpiring on the most significant public land access issue in at least the past 40-50 years.

That simple.

If you disagree with the way its being handled fine.

If you don't agree that public land access is important fine.

A vast majority do approve of our efforts, they do think public land access is important, and frankly, those are the folks we're doing this for.

It's not about you Cromeens...as much as you would like it be.

 

[Tristate]

I'm disinclined to insult the good folks on MM by reposting what you wrote...they can read.

Its not my desire to get rid of anyone, my desire is to inform the hunting public with the facts of what's transpiring on the most significant public land access issue in at least the past 40-50 years.

That simple.

That's what I thought.

It never happened. You can't post it. That simple.

It's like the time you came after me for killing too many coyotes on a weekend line that wasn't a weekend. You sir need to quit being so anxious to attack me.

Go attack the guys for libel that said you needed Randy's money.

 

[BuzzH]

That's what I thought.

It never happened. You can't post it. That simple.

It's like the time you came after me for killing too many coyotes on a weekend line that wasn't a weekend. You sir need to quit being so anxious to attack me.

Go attack the guys for libel that said you needed Randy's money.

You don't "think" and that's your problem.

I'm strongly encouraging you to let this one go, you're in over your head.

 

[heartshot]

BuzzH engaged in fraud when it comes to funding the WY corner crossing fight

Don't let the door hit you to hard on your way out.
Good-Bye Tristate!!!

 

[heartshot]

I'll cut you a deal Buzzh. You post right here where I said you engaged in fraud and I leave MM for good.

 

[Tristate]

You don't "think" and that's your problem.

I'm strongly encouraging you to let this one go, you're in over your head.

"There are law professors and a few dozen attorneys working this case pro bono on behalf of the Missouri-4 and public access."


That's what you said. You said it. On the other thread. No editing. Then other people said Randy should have contributed his clout and funds to the cause.

 

[BuzzH]

"There are law professors and a few dozen attorneys working this case pro bono on behalf of the Missouri-4 and public access."

Which absolutely is true.

 

[Tristate]

Which absolutely is true.

Okay. So go deal with the guys that claim you need Randy's money for your crusade.

Or do you need Randy's money for your crusade?

 

[BuzzH]

Okay. So go deal with the guys that claim you need Randy's money for your crusade.

Or do you need Randy's money for your crusade?

Currently, over 2100 individuals/businesses have contributed money for the legal fees of the Missouri-4 to defend them on criminal (successfully) and civil charges.

Those contributions are adequate at this time to cover the expenses/legal fees of both cases. All of which was fully explained on the gofundme.

Not complicated.

 

[Tristate]

Currently, over 2100 individuals/businesses have contributed money for the legal fees of the Missouri-4 to defend them on criminal (successfully) and civil charges.

Those contributions are adequate at this time to cover the expenses/legal fees of both cases. All of which was fully explained on the gofundme.

Not complicated.

So where does the money go if a dozen lawyers are working on it pro-bono?

Who set up the fund and can access it?

 

[Rie bread]

how do all the hush bro’s get a tag in new mexico ever damn year?