Idaho Wolf Pack picture
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bucklover
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Holy Crap!! I hate to even think about how many critters it takes to feed that many wolves, and that's just one pack!? If we don't get a handle on this situation soon there won't be any point of even looking for a handle. Sickening!!
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dreaminbouthuntin
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Its not Idaho. Its a pack from Russia, at least thats what Animal Planet said.
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Elk_Nuts
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>Its not Idaho. Its a pack
>from Russia, at least thats
>what Animal Planet said.
Whatever you want to believe. All I know is that it went up on the Trophy Hunter Magazines Facebook page this morning and they said it was in Idaho. Not saying they couldn't be wrong but that's what it said.
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>from Russia, at least thats
>what Animal Planet said.
Whatever you want to believe. All I know is that it went up on the Trophy Hunter Magazines Facebook page this morning and they said it was in Idaho. Not saying they couldn't be wrong but that's what it said.
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tufcntry
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i don't know about that pic but i know there are packs that big when i lived in mt there was a pic in the local paper and number one they can't photoshop that good and i asked the trapper if he has ever seen wolf packs like that when he was flying and he said yes.
DeerMadness
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Well all the know-it-alls on MM can jump right in.
travishunter3006
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>Holy Crap!! I hate to even
>think about how many critters
>it takes to feed that
>many wolves, and that's just
>one pack!? If we don't
>get a handle on this
>situation soon there won't be
>any point of even looking
>for a handle. Sickening!!
Dummest question ever! LOL
everybody knows that wolves don't eat deer or elk or any other animal for that reason!
wolves like to eat young children on their way to grandma's house. they eat grandma then try to eat the grandaughter..
It was a big bodied 2 point. (this is my signature)
>think about how many critters
>it takes to feed that
>many wolves, and that's just
>one pack!? If we don't
>get a handle on this
>situation soon there won't be
>any point of even looking
>for a handle. Sickening!!
Dummest question ever! LOL
everybody knows that wolves don't eat deer or elk or any other animal for that reason!
wolves like to eat young children on their way to grandma's house. they eat grandma then try to eat the grandaughter..
It was a big bodied 2 point. (this is my signature)
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>Looks like a target rich environment
>to me, a good time
>for a semi with a
>few extra clips.
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>Jody
Now that's what I was thinking !
By the way, wolves don't eat deer or elk, and they don't eat grandma.
They all hop in a red Cadillac convertible and hit the Burger King drive through.
>to me, a good time
>for a semi with a
>few extra clips.
>
>Jody
Now that's what I was thinking !
By the way, wolves don't eat deer or elk, and they don't eat grandma.
They all hop in a red Cadillac convertible and hit the Burger King drive through.
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drahthaar
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Shotgun,
Two years ago, MT FWP killed the entire Hog Heaven pack, 27 animals.
http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_6c8bed8b-2a1b-5263-a8aa-bfa64cd13873.html
Two years ago, MT FWP killed the entire Hog Heaven pack, 27 animals.
http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_6c8bed8b-2a1b-5263-a8aa-bfa64cd13873.html
MMers come in second in BSing contest with the Russians.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-horses-just-days-remote-Russian-village.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-horses-just-days-remote-Russian-village.html
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MTSHEDHEDZ
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>Shotgun,
>
>Two years ago, MT FWP killed
>the entire Hog Heaven pack,
>27 animals.
>
>http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_6c8bed8b-2a1b-5263-a8aa-bfa64cd13873.html
LOL I guess Mr "Not a wolf expert" just proved himself correct.
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>Two years ago, MT FWP killed
>the entire Hog Heaven pack,
>27 animals.
>
>http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_6c8bed8b-2a1b-5263-a8aa-bfa64cd13873.html
LOL I guess Mr "Not a wolf expert" just proved himself correct.
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two8E
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Here is another possibility;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environme...anet-in-pictures#/?picture=380602923&index=11
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environme...anet-in-pictures#/?picture=380602923&index=11
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dreaminbouthuntin
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My apologies. It was Canada not Russia. Still, not Idaho.
A Large wolf pack, Wood Buffalo National Park, Canada, photo by Chadden Hunter
(www.chaddenhunter.blogspot.com)
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chubchub
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click on drahthaar link and look at the one coment!!!! That is a G0d d@m joke seriously those r the people that r ruining our hunting and our nation!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005139659&var_Year=2011&var_Month=11&var_Day=30
Another widely circulated wolf photo that seems just wild enough to be true has proven false, say state wildlife officials.
The photo shows 25 wolves traveling in a line, with a label identifying it as having been taken in Soda Springs, Idaho, outside of Pocatello. The Idaho Department of Fish and Game said the photo has been circulating on the Internet for three weeks, claiming to have been taken in other areas of the state such as Weippe.
John Gaither, president of the Idaho County Sportsmen Club in Grangeville, Idaho, forwarded the photo to the Idaho Mountain Express last week, with a note calling the exceptionally large group of wolves a "super pack."
Gaither said in an interview Monday that his club has received several calls from hunters who have seen wolves in the Soda Springs area. However, he added, it doesn't much matter where the photo was taken?it's still a cause for concern.
"I don't know where [the photo] is from," he said. "It could be from Mars. But that's still a big pack of wolves."
Department Big Game Manager John Rachael said in an email that the location of the photo was eventually traced to Wood Buffalo National Park in Alberta, Canada. Chadden Hunter, a BBC photographer, said in an e-mail that he took the shot while filming the company's "Frozen Planet" series in Feb 2010.
Even if the original source had not been found, there are a few holes in the validity of the photo and the "super pack" label, said Neils Nokkentved, spokesman for Fish and Game. What caught officials' attention is that the photo's stated location, Soda Springs, is in a part of Idaho where wolves are uncommon.
"I don't think anyone has ever seen a wolf over there," Nokkentved said.
A 2010 report on wolf activity conducted by the Nez Perce tribe, which monitored and managed gray wolves through much of the year when the state pulled out of wolf management, states that there are no documented packs in the Southern Idaho Region, which includes Soda Springs.
"There aren't any wolves in Soda Springs that I'm aware of," John Rachael, big game manager of the Idaho Department of Fish and Game, said in an email. "This is getting beyond laughable. Soda Springs? You're making that up, right?"
Rachael said the first email he saw containing the photo claimed the pack was located in Weippe, Idaho?more than 560 miles from Soda Springs, in the Dworshak-Elk City region.
In 2010, there were about 32 wolves in 11 packs in that region, leaving an average of roughly three wolves per pack. Even if there were one pack that large, that 25-wolf pack would leave seven wolves in the entire region to be dispersed over the remaining documented 10 packs in the region?and lone wolves are not counted as packs.
The average wolf pack in Idaho contains eight to 10 wolves, said Garrick Dutcher, spokesman for wolf advocacy group Living with Wolves. As for the term "super pack," Dutcher said the term is in fact not used by "real wolf experts" as Gaither claimed in an email to the Idaho Mountain Express. Dutcher added that it is unlikely the group was made of several packs traveling together.
Dutcher said there have been packs, such as the Druid Peak Pack in Yellowstone National Park, that have reached up to 35 wolves.
"Usually packs this large are the result of multiple litters being born within the same pack in one year and a very large, accessible prey base," Rachael said.
However, he added, it's very rare for a pack this size to have wolves that are all the same color, further casting doubt on the photo being located in the United States.
Gaither said that no matter where the photo was taken, it calls attention to the danger of having wolves in Idaho, which is why he forwarded the photo.
"What a lot of people don't understand about wolves is that even though no one has been killed in this state is because there just weren't that many," he said. "Everywhere there are wolves, people get killed by wolves. The reason for the big-bad-wolf stories is because wolves kill people."
However, Dutcher said a pack this large, even if it was in Idaho, is not cause for alarm. In fact, Dutcher said large packs are more effective at pulling down larger prey, reducing the number of livestock depredations.
"There's nothing to fear about a large pack," he said. "They can live together in large social units. That's not something that should strike fear in people, rather amazement."
Another widely circulated wolf photo that seems just wild enough to be true has proven false, say state wildlife officials.
The photo shows 25 wolves traveling in a line, with a label identifying it as having been taken in Soda Springs, Idaho, outside of Pocatello. The Idaho Department of Fish and Game said the photo has been circulating on the Internet for three weeks, claiming to have been taken in other areas of the state such as Weippe.
John Gaither, president of the Idaho County Sportsmen Club in Grangeville, Idaho, forwarded the photo to the Idaho Mountain Express last week, with a note calling the exceptionally large group of wolves a "super pack."
Gaither said in an interview Monday that his club has received several calls from hunters who have seen wolves in the Soda Springs area. However, he added, it doesn't much matter where the photo was taken?it's still a cause for concern.
"I don't know where [the photo] is from," he said. "It could be from Mars. But that's still a big pack of wolves."
Department Big Game Manager John Rachael said in an email that the location of the photo was eventually traced to Wood Buffalo National Park in Alberta, Canada. Chadden Hunter, a BBC photographer, said in an e-mail that he took the shot while filming the company's "Frozen Planet" series in Feb 2010.
Even if the original source had not been found, there are a few holes in the validity of the photo and the "super pack" label, said Neils Nokkentved, spokesman for Fish and Game. What caught officials' attention is that the photo's stated location, Soda Springs, is in a part of Idaho where wolves are uncommon.
"I don't think anyone has ever seen a wolf over there," Nokkentved said.
A 2010 report on wolf activity conducted by the Nez Perce tribe, which monitored and managed gray wolves through much of the year when the state pulled out of wolf management, states that there are no documented packs in the Southern Idaho Region, which includes Soda Springs.
"There aren't any wolves in Soda Springs that I'm aware of," John Rachael, big game manager of the Idaho Department of Fish and Game, said in an email. "This is getting beyond laughable. Soda Springs? You're making that up, right?"
Rachael said the first email he saw containing the photo claimed the pack was located in Weippe, Idaho?more than 560 miles from Soda Springs, in the Dworshak-Elk City region.
In 2010, there were about 32 wolves in 11 packs in that region, leaving an average of roughly three wolves per pack. Even if there were one pack that large, that 25-wolf pack would leave seven wolves in the entire region to be dispersed over the remaining documented 10 packs in the region?and lone wolves are not counted as packs.
The average wolf pack in Idaho contains eight to 10 wolves, said Garrick Dutcher, spokesman for wolf advocacy group Living with Wolves. As for the term "super pack," Dutcher said the term is in fact not used by "real wolf experts" as Gaither claimed in an email to the Idaho Mountain Express. Dutcher added that it is unlikely the group was made of several packs traveling together.
Dutcher said there have been packs, such as the Druid Peak Pack in Yellowstone National Park, that have reached up to 35 wolves.
"Usually packs this large are the result of multiple litters being born within the same pack in one year and a very large, accessible prey base," Rachael said.
However, he added, it's very rare for a pack this size to have wolves that are all the same color, further casting doubt on the photo being located in the United States.
Gaither said that no matter where the photo was taken, it calls attention to the danger of having wolves in Idaho, which is why he forwarded the photo.
"What a lot of people don't understand about wolves is that even though no one has been killed in this state is because there just weren't that many," he said. "Everywhere there are wolves, people get killed by wolves. The reason for the big-bad-wolf stories is because wolves kill people."
However, Dutcher said a pack this large, even if it was in Idaho, is not cause for alarm. In fact, Dutcher said large packs are more effective at pulling down larger prey, reducing the number of livestock depredations.
"There's nothing to fear about a large pack," he said. "They can live together in large social units. That's not something that should strike fear in people, rather amazement."
I don't expect packs are usually nearly that large, but it can happen for short time. We had a pack on the ridge above our valley about four or five years ago of 19. They were pretty mangy: a common problem in canines when the population density is too high.
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>Even if the original source had
>not been found, there are
>a few holes in the
>validity of the photo and
>the "super pack" label, said
>Neils Nokkentved, spokesman for Fish
>and Game. What caught officials'
>attention is that the photo's
>stated location, Soda Springs, is
>in a part of Idaho
>where wolves are uncommon.
>
>"I don't think anyone has ever
>seen a wolf over there,"
>Nokkentved said.
>
>
I'm positive that picture isn't from Soda, but the spin doctor Nokkentved doesn't score many points with that comment. Heck I reported a wolf over there (Soda Springs) 5 years ago and saw the IDFG map with a bunch of sightings in Caribou & Bear Lake County. There are wolves all over that country around Soda Springs and the IDFG knows it. Why does the Idaho Fish and Game say such silly things? I guess there are just a couple of big black coyotes just passing thru, right?
>Even if the original source had
>not been found, there are
>a few holes in the
>validity of the photo and
>the "super pack" label, said
>Neils Nokkentved, spokesman for Fish
>and Game. What caught officials'
>attention is that the photo's
>stated location, Soda Springs, is
>in a part of Idaho
>where wolves are uncommon.
>
>"I don't think anyone has ever
>seen a wolf over there,"
>Nokkentved said.
>
>
I'm positive that picture isn't from Soda, but the spin doctor Nokkentved doesn't score many points with that comment. Heck I reported a wolf over there (Soda Springs) 5 years ago and saw the IDFG map with a bunch of sightings in Caribou & Bear Lake County. There are wolves all over that country around Soda Springs and the IDFG knows it. Why does the Idaho Fish and Game say such silly things? I guess there are just a couple of big black coyotes just passing thru, right?
