Thats what Lisa thought! We proved her wrong. After our little jaunt through the nasty stuff, she said she was going to make it her goal to find a road into the area my brother killed his bull. She never did find a road. If you are familiar with Magone lake, the Nipple butte trail, Beech creek road and hwy 395, draw a square around that area and put a dot in the middle, that will get you close.