He went to jail. That isn't just a night screwed up. It took 2 months to get the charges dropped. More than likely he had 5-10k in attorney fees. If that's the best thing that ever happened to a kid, that was a complete gentleman to an officer, I would never ever ever want to see a cop ever again. That kid did everything by the book and got **** on for it. And there's one more blood line that will never trust police again. Damn all around shame.Well the cop definitely made a bad judgment call and it sucks the kid got his night screwed up but 62 in a 35. He didn’t get beat up or anything. Should’ve been a ticket and on his way. Probably the best thing that will happen to him, now he has a poor me song.
That's why I never speed and keep both hands on the wheel at the 10 and 2 position and always use my turn signals when changing lanes or entering or exiting the freeway.
Having said that, if that cop did that to me, I would take it personal and I would make him pay at some point down the road. He wouldn't even see it coming or even know what happened.!!!
One of the sure ways to detect cannabis use is speeding? You bettcha. He might have been speeding but I highly doubt it was 62 in a 35. The cop lied about everything else.
I doubt it took much in attorney fees. What prosecutor would charge with 2 confirmed negative tests?He went to jail. That isn't just a night screwed up. It took 2 months to get the charges dropped. More than likely he had 5-10k in attorney fees. If that's the best thing that ever happened to a kid, that was a complete gentleman to an officer, I would never ever ever want to see a cop ever again. That kid did everything by the book and got **** on for it. And there's one more blood line that will never trust police again. Damn all around shame.
Are you that stupid? Vast majority of people respect the blue. Sure there are some POS police, hopefully this DB is flipping burgers.Does anyone wonder anymore why very few people back the blue anymore?
Get out of your bubble. Not many people support police anymore. Your inner circle isn't the majority anymore.Are you that stupid? Vast majority of people respect the blue. Sure there are some POS police, hopefully this DB is flipping burgers.
#tribabyisamoron.
Sarcasm and mockery really make people like police more. Keep it up. You don't need public support.Tri, can you point out on the dolly, exactly where the bad policeman touched you?
I don’t need public support, I’m not a cop. The vast majority are good guys and I can respect that. I just refuse to hate ‘em all because a few are bad, but you do you.Sarcasm and mockery really make people like police more. Keep it up. You don't need public support.
Funny. You are the only one here bringing up "hate". As usual you didn't read. It's not about hate. Well maybe for you it is.I don’t need public support, I’m not a cop. The vast majority are good guys and I can respect that. I just refuse to hate ‘em all because a few are bad, but you do you.
There are probably hundreds of these videos out there of bad cops being like this. Hundreds out of hundreds of thousands of encounters.
I'm not sure the circles that the op runs in, but if he's of the mind that very few people back the police, he's definitely the one in a bubble.
This is actually the best counterpoint to my post yet. You are correct. There is a lot of fake junk on the internet.There is also a chance this entire video was made for entertainment purposes and youtube views. Quite possible other people send him fake videos. How does he have over 600 videos of bad cops with great detail? Who sends them to him?
Then make sure they aren't cops anymore instead of attacking the people who shine the light on them.Not just hundreds of thousands, more like millions. Yes, there are people that are cops that suck, just like there are people that are taxidermists that suck too.
And sometimes even decent folk make bad choices. But if anyone watches this video and laps it up, I’ve got some property in Arizona with a beautiful view of the ocean right from the porch!
Then make sure they aren't cops anymore instead of attacking the people who shine the light on them.
No hate here, Tri. I just don’t overreact and cut down the whole tree because one cherry had a worm. I realize a lot of what you post is for shock value, so I won’t chase you down your rabbit hole.Funny. You are the only one here bringing up "hate". As usual you didn't read. It's not about hate. Well maybe for you it is.
Sweeping things under the rug by calling it fake never fixed anything.Mud slinging fake news isn’t light.
There is a difference.
Nobody here tried to cut down the whole tree. Calm down and read. Life will be more pleasantNo hate here, Tri. I just don’t overreact and cut down the whole tree because one cherry had a worm. I realize a lot of what you post is for shock value, so I won’t chase you down your rabbit hole.
Carry on.
You got a cop fired????? It's clear you hate all cops. Quit using drugs.Tri it is apparent that you are a cop hater. Why, we do not know and most of us do not care.
Your statement that the majority of people do not like or trust cops is full of holes that I doubt you can back your mouth up on that one.
I spent 30 years in law enforcement and 20 of those years were as a patrol deputy and patrol Sgt. 10 years as a Det. Sgt. and narcotics officer. The 410 square mile area I and my deputies patrolled we had tremendous support from the citizens in the 5 communities in the beat. I can recall at least 5 incidents where citizens came to the aid of the officers in that beat. a couple of those incidents the citizen did so at the risk of their safety or life.
i and my deputies had numerous places to stop at a citizen's home and have coffee with them and get information as to what was going on in their area that we should be concerned with.
Yes there is bad cops out there, but they are a small minority compared to the honest hard working cops. As a Det. Sgt. I even told one bad cop that I would have his badge and was able to back that up by getting him fired because he was dishonest and badge heavy.
I also agree with Eel that it is harder now to get good people to become a cop due to people like you with your feelings that promote de-funding of law enforcement. Because of that problem alot of departments have lowered standards for hiring which I hate to see as it may lead to lower quality officers being hired.
You need to grow up and stick with your taxidermy work and do not drink alcohol or smoke dope prior to driving.
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I am not surprised.I had a taxidermist steal my horns and leave the state. They are all horrible bastards. All the people I hang out with hate taxidermists. I can Google bad taxidermists and get all kinds of hits so that proves I’m right.
I’ll play. There is a very good chance my 3 kids can run into this specific cop as this occurred very close to home. Florence is the next town up from us. The cop made a bad judgment call but never once put the young man in harm’s way. So if he were to pull over one of my kids, I wouldn’t be worried. He has probably taken a lot of drunk drivers off the road making it safer for my family.I am not surprised.
Now if I was a cop I would start beating treating you like crap so you would begin respecting me again.
Honest question. You want your children meeting the cop in this video alone on a dark highway?????
You are willing to sacrifice your kids safety in a county jail so someone can every now and then catch an extra drunk driver?????I’ll play. There is a very good chance my 3 kids can run into this specific cop as this occurred very close to home. Florence is the next town up from us. The cop made a bad judgment call but never once put the young man in harm’s way. So if he were to pull over one of my kids, I wouldn’t be worried. He has probably taken a lot of drunk drivers off the road making it safer for my family.
Hell no. I’m not willing to sacrifice my kids to anything. THE COP MADE A BAD CALL! Don’t forget that kid was excessively speeding, he’s not 100% innocent in that video. Everyone WANTS to be outraged about something these days and clearly this triggered you. I have seen this lawyers videos before and I think you could have picked a better one to post here.You are willing to sacrifice your kids safety in a county jail so someone can every now and then catch an extra drunk driver?????
Everyone in your patrol beat knew you carried a gallon can of kerosene in your car. No wonder they were so cooperative.I spent 30 years in law enforcement and 20 of those years were as a patrol deputy and patrol Sgt. 10 years as a Det. Sgt. and narcotics officer. The 410 square mile area I and my deputies patrolled we had tremendous support from the citizens in the 5 communities in the beat
Tri, give me your definition of a positive toxicology report and a negative toxicology report
A bad call??? He put an 18 year old kid in jail for bloodshot eyes after said kid did everything he was asked and was totally respectful. HE WILL DO THE EXACT SAME TO YOUR KID. So a speeding kid needs a night or two in jail???? That's your justification. A cop gets to excessively torment a kid that totally respects him for speeding? Last time I checked that's a $250 ticket, not an excuse to screw a kid as much as possible.Hell no. I’m not willing to sacrifice my kids to anything. THE COP MADE A BAD CALL! Don’t forget that kid was excessively speeding, he’s not 100% innocent in that video. Everyone WANTS to be outraged about something these days and clearly this triggered you. I have seen this lawyers videos before and I think you could have picked a better one to post here.
What are you arguing for Vanilla? A few posts ago you said this was fake. Are you saying it's real now. I don't have a problem with you changing your mind.Ha! No chance he understands what that report showed in the video means. Particularly when it comes to Delta-9.
Because I can't read the report.maybe my power will be turned on Monday and I can put it on a large enough screen to read. Patience grasshopper some things are more important than your questions.You didn’t answer my question tri?
I actually had to get up in the middle of the night and drive 4 hours.Wow, someone must of stuck a nerve with old Tri, since he was the only one posting replies in the middle of the night.
Yep. So I can explain it to you.. you seem to think it's a cut and dry definition and there's only one type of toxicology report.You have to read the report to know what a positive or negative test is?
I didn’t miss your point, I know what you’re driving at. I guess the point I’m trying to make is cops have a very thin line to walk these days with cameras everywhere. They are human and make bad calls sometimes. Doesn’t mean this cop always acts like that.A bad call??? He put an 18 year old kid in jail for bloodshot eyes after said kid did everything he was asked and was totally respectful. HE WILL DO THE EXACT SAME TO YOUR KID. So a speeding kid needs a night or two in jail???? That's your justification. A cop gets to excessively torment a kid that totally respects him for speeding? Last time I checked that's a $250 ticket, not an excuse to screw a kid as much as possible.
You have missed my point.
Cops have a PR problem right now. Do you think malicious and stupid behavior towards a good citizen helps that in any way?
Contrary to what the kids around here think, I WANT GOOD COPS. I want smart cops. I want cops that are smart enough not to step on their own D!ck and loose the trust of good people.
Certain things you do once and we go ahead and find you a different job to do.I didn’t miss your point, I know what you’re driving at. I guess the point I’m trying to make is cops have a very thin line to walk these days with cameras everywhere. They are human and make bad calls sometimes. Doesn’t mean this cop always acts like that.
What are you arguing for Vanilla? A few posts ago you said this was fake. Are you saying it's real now. I don't have a problem with you changing your mind.
The turd never answering questions he just asks them of everyone else.Nice attempt at spin, but you aren’t getting out of this one.
The toxicology report is shown in your own BS video. You were asked a direct question. I’m betting you won’t (and can’t) answer it!
That's not spin. You actually said this was fake. Why are you arguing something you say is fake. Do you want to change your mind now? We're you lying then or now?Nice attempt at spin, but you aren’t getting out of this one.
The toxicology report is shown in your own BS video. You were asked a direct question. I’m betting you won’t (and can’t) answer it!
"Most"The turd never answering questions he just asks them of everyone else.
Most drug screens for law enforcement are usually 8, 10, or 16 panel screenings, but a lot of time on the lower end of the panel testing. Spice, inhalents, and delta-8 rarely show up in the results. There are plenty more. Just think of all the different pills out there. It's impossible to test for everything at the crime lab. They just test for the common types of drugs/alcohol.
They call that doubling down and it's a really bad "look".
Because it's a rigged question. Just like Oregon confirmed.You certainly would know!
And how did I know you couldn’t answer the simple question, even with mega hints?
Totally rigged question and I never said anything about a "voodoo test".Far from a rigged question. You seem to be the expert on policing issues and talk about voodoo tests and bad arrests. I also like the YouTube constitutional lawyer. He reeks credibility
Tri,Yep. So I can explain it to you.. you seem to think it's a cut and dry definition and there's only one type of toxicology report.
Yes drug use invented blood shot eyes.Tri,
You don’t have to “splain” anything to me. Here is an article I co authored that was published in the Journal of American Optometric Association way back in 1998 on the topic. I’m sure you have read plenty of toxicology reports in your work as a taxidermist.
The NIDA standard for marijuana is 50 nano grams. If it is 49 nano grams the test is negative even though it is present. The only drug that has a presumptive level of intoxication is alcohol. If you want to debate any of this stuff let’s have it.
Cop bashing is so Obama era. It has backfired on the dems and you see that crimes rates are up in liberal cities and places like Portland are voting out the DAs supported by Soros because they are tired of the crime rate.
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"Quit being a giant chicken poop and tell us what you know about the tox results tri."
Nothing. If you would read you would understand I can't read it.
"You posted this video, not anyone else. You cited it as gospel for what everyone hates the police these days. You used it as authority."
Actually i didn't. But reading really isn't your thang.
"Now you should explain something very simple for those in the know. I know you won’t. You’ve always been a pansy"
You really are hoping no one noticed this cop treated a good kid like dirt and he won't trust the government anymore. Don't worry I'll remind everyone.
No that's reminding people what this thread was about and yes it's a really bad look for police. They might want to treat their allies like equal citizens before they have no friends left at all.They call that doubling down and it is a really bad “look.”
Never said it invented blood shot eyes. It’s apparent you lost this argument.Yes drug use invented blood shot eyes.
"And other signs", is kind of important.
Just so people don't forget this isn't about your problems understanding toxicology. It's about a cop treating good people like spit and cops need to treat good people well.
That's funny I didn't realize there was an argument to lose.Never said it invented blood shot eyes. It’s apparent you lost this argument.
yes, been out of it since 2016. Unfortunately it never changes. Always something new.Lost, it’s good to put your credentials behind the name. I’ve actually read your study in the past.
I assume you’re out of the game these days? Chuck recently retired from IACP, as you probably know. Lots going on these days with the impaired driving world. It never ends.
Why are you still crying about it. You decided it was fake. Almost seems like you are afraid of this guy.So this guy is saying the cop was asking questions trying to elicit incriminating responses without reading the person his Miranda rights during a traffic stop and subsequent DUI investigation.
Tri’s YouTube civil rights attorney must be as up to speed on the law as his three fake attorney friends he goes to dinner with and staffs Utah criminal cases.
Free advice to this YouTuber, do some case research. Let us know when Miranda (which is not in the constitution) kicks in.
I’ve listened to two portions, about 3 minutes a piece. Both times this clown says something so dumb it’s impossible to get to the actual parts about the officer being mean.
Lusten to what the officer says on the video.The officer tested the kid for more then blood shot eyes. Using the flashlight he tested the kid's pupils for reaction to a strong light. Pupils should have constricted under strong light. Will not with most drugs. He was also testing for the pupils being dilated which happens with most drug use.
Also by moving the flashlight and having the kid follow the light with his eyes only is a test to see if the pupils bounce when the pupils get to the edge of the eye opening. If they do it is a indication of being under influence of drugs or alcohol.
Tri you need to stick to your work as you have no idea what it takes to preform one small aspect of police work. None of us know if that officer did observe any of the items listed above that would indicate being under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving. Also I did not observe any thing that the officer did that would indicate he was heavy handed with the kid or be considered "badge happy" and pushing his authority with the citizen.
I would not be surprised that the attorney who posted that video may be a shyster that chases ambulances for his blood money.
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If you do see those signs and you administer a breathalyzer and it comes back 0.0 then you can rule out alcohol? He passed all the other coordination tests too. He even closed his eyes and guessed 30 seconds within 1 second. I personally don't know one person who smokes weed who could do that. He didn't even start laughing which tells me he was clean. I've never seen a stoner drive 60+ in a 35 either. 15 in a 35 is more typical.The officer tested the kid for more then blood shot eyes. Using the flashlight he tested the kid's pupils for reaction to a strong light. Pupils should have constricted under strong light. Will not with most drugs. He was also testing for the pupils being dilated which happens with most drug use.
Also by moving the flashlight and having the kid follow the light with his eyes only is a test to see if the pupils bounce when the pupils get to the edge of the eye opening. If they do it is a indication of being under influence of drugs or alcohol.
Tri you need to stick to your work as you have no idea what it takes to preform one small aspect of police work. None of us know if that officer did observe any of the items listed above that would indicate being under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving. Also I did not observe any thing that the officer did that would indicate he was heavy handed with the kid or be considered "badge happy" and pushing his authority with the citizen.
I would not be surprised that the attorney who posted that video may be a shyster that chases ambulances for his blood money.
As for being advised of his "Miranda" rights. That does not kick in until the suspect is arrested or the suspect has a REASONABLE right to feel he is under arrest, and the officer wishes to question him further.
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According to this cop everyone is a stoner if they have broken a speed law or have bloodshot eyes.Eel,
How many stoners have you stopped for speeding…….
I never have stopped anyone for any reason. I just live in the Emerald Triangle.Eel,
How many stoners have you stopped for speeding…….
You are defending crap. Total crap. The DA threw it out because even he knows it's STOOOOOPID. Defending this is STOOOOOOOPID. There are 2 things that make cops look STOOOOOOPID. You and this copTri, you never answer the questions and just drone on. Not going to debate with a taxidermist from texas that is an expert on everything.
I've never seen a stoner drive 60+ in a 35 either. 15 in a 35 is more typical.
Tri, when you told a 30 year retired LE “I am not interested in what you think it takes to do police work”, you totally lost what little credibility you had in your anti cop argument.
I seriously doubt a cop could school a retired taxidermist on what it takes to mount animals either.
I didn't come here for cop credibility. I don't want or need cop credibility. I came here to share this video that shows a cop making cops look bad to the last people on earth they should be looking bad to.Tri, when you told a 30 year retired LE “I am not interested in what you think it takes to do police work”, you totally lost what little credibility you had in your anti cop argument.
I seriously doubt a cop could school a retired taxidermist on what it takes to mount animals either.
Pretty much every single person I know speeds. I know one person that smokes weed. Speeding doesn't mean you are a stoner and you don't know squat about statistics.A important nationwide study on cannabis impairment showed the single highest reason for a stop in confirmed** cannabis impaired arrests was speeding. So that whole popular narrative is kind of BS.
**(DRE eval calling cannabis impairment supported by toxicology result)
He's more than a blow hard. He wins cases. I know you hate it but he knows something about people's rights and he shares that info.Especially one at the top of the impaired driving game who is a published researcher on the topic.
But then again, there is a blow hard making crap up on YouTube, so that’s right up Tri’s alley. He is a blowhard that loves making crap up on the internet.
If you would learn how to read I didn't come here to convince you all cops are bad.I’m not sure what it is here that you think worked, tri. You failed miserably at convincing us that all cops are bad.
I’m no cop but I damn sure respect their work, for all the BS and hatred they contend with daily.
Damn lucky you didn't have blood shot eyes. He would have thrown your stoner a55 in the can.I got a speeding ticket 2 weeks ago. The cop was a complete horses a$$ to me. Cocky, confrontational and super agressive.
I havnt had a speeding ticket in 20 years and 875,000 miles of Driving. I was driving my mother-in-law’s car and was going 11 mph over the posted speed limit. I tried explaining to him that I wasn't used to driving the vehicle but he had his mind made up.
It’s cops like him that make people hate the police.
$170 later here I sit.
He wrote on the ticket that I was “Friendly and respectful” lol
You mean it's Lost's fault cops can screw over and abuse kids like this????Especially one at the top of the impaired driving game who is a published researcher on the topic.