LAST EDITED ON Aug-15-09 AT 12:20PM (MST)[p]After staring at him through the spotting scope, I figured his height at 17, gave 7, 8, 3, 2, for mass measurements and 7 for cutters (he curves a bit) which puts him at 88, minus 3 in round up factor 85. Hopefully I get to tape him this year as a friend has the early rifle tag. Althouh he has gone into hiding every year by rifle season. Not bad for a public land buck in a mid tier unit in OR.