Gross score vs net score which do you use?

[JakeH]

Have been having a discussion with an official measurer, and would like everyone's feedback.

Which do you prefer, gross or net? And why? if you care to elaborate. If you are an official measurer let us know.

 

[elkassassin]

I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT SCORE!

UNIQUE BEATS SCORE ANY-DAY!

Amazing How Many People are in to the Score!

 

[elks96]

Nets are for fish!!!

 

[elkassassin]

Would That be an MM Score?

Or a B&C Score?

 

[Hawkeye]

Gross score. I could care less about net!

 

[AZGuy]

SCI scores only. Why would we discount what the animal truly is?

 

[SS!]

Nets are for dead hookers

 

[Muleyaddict06]

I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT SCORE!

UNIQUE BEATS SCORE ANY-DAY!

Amazing How Many People are in to the Score!

Exactly. Ill take a character every day of the week.

 

[hawkbill]

I am an official scorer for B and C. I go buy gross score unless sitting one on one with the person entering a trophy in the book and explaining the deductions to come up with the net score. The score is just away we as hunters can communicate about the size of an animal. When I was in my early hunting career nobody talked about a 200” Deer, the goal then was to kill a 30” Buck. I like hunting the largest animal in the unit or I usually end up eating my tag. I score everything I can get my hands on, it helps me become a better judge in the field for what I’m looking for in my hunts. I love putting my hands on the biggest animals coming out of Idaho every year. I to have seen the Score get into to many hunters heads without really having a lot of hunting experience. If you are a meat hunter great, If you like freaks, cactus bucks that’s great. I think we all like hearing the score on an animal and dreaming about what could actually happen to a regular guy out in the field. The score, the age, the genetics is all about the animal and keeping track of where it falls in line.

 

[DoubleDropMuley]

Don’t really care about scores Big is Big but it’s always nice just to see what one scores but should be no such thing as net on scores!! As mentioned above unique or other character is pretty cool, if ya like the looks take your best shot

 

[buckspotter7]

I’ve always used score as a reference for describing general size. Probably go to spread and points more than score. Never had anything officially scored. Use net score when talking typical symmetrical bucks and gross score on funky non-typicals.

 

[sticksender]

Gross is for egos and outfitters.

 

[DoubleDropMuley]

Gross is for egos and outfitters.

Gross is what they are!! ??‍

 

[Butts]

Gross, but big is big. I have never understood the reason for B&C and P&Y giving credit for “air”. Inside spread measurement.
Having a water displacement type system would be awesome. Giving credit for total bone on any given animal.

 

[elkassassin]

So?

Would That Be Known As CUBIC Inches?

Gross, but big is big. I have never understood the reason for B&C and P&Y giving credit for “air”. Inside spread measurement.
Having a water displacement type system would be awesome. Giving credit for total bone on any given animal.

 

[Sallaberry]

Big non typs are cool but I love symmetry nothing cooler to me than a clean typical 4x4.

 

[slamdunk]

Only net if it will "net", otherwise gross.
Many great bucks won't net, but that shouldn't be a reflection on how great the "trophy" actually is.

 

[Butts]

So?

Would That Be Known As CUBIC Inches?

Volume??

 

[coloradoman]

Only net if it will "net", otherwise gross.
Many great bucks won't net, but that shouldn't be a reflection on how great the "trophy" actually is.

Yep I agree Doug

 

[roadrunner]

If it matters, gross. That's what the animal is.

Net is irrelevant.

 

[DH56]

Heavy, Tall and Wide. Enjoy Character and Unique. As you get older, score is just a number.

 

[Sparks Shooter]

I use gross score to describe or quantify how 'big' a buck is because most people understand it. Most on this forum would know exactly what a 160" framed typical with cheaters on his G3s would look like.

As far as net, I find it only useful for those wanting to participate in trophy record books. I have nothing against this but have no personal interest at all.-----SS

 

[roadrunner]

I use gross score to describe or quantify how 'big' a buck is because most people understand it. Most on this forum would know exactly what a 160" framed typical with cheaters on his G3s would look like.

As far as net, I find it only useful for those wanting to participate in trophy record books. I have nothing against this but have no personal interest at all.-----SS

LOL - I don't know what the "G3's" are!!

 

[hawkbill]

Maybe you should try the Burkett system

 

[jims]

Whether gross or net a lot of guys don’t even score correctly. As an example, for mule deer I’d say the majority of hunters use the widest outside spread rather than the widest spread of the main beam to come up with a score. This can easily add 5 to 10+ additional pts to a gross or net score.

 

[BLooDTRaCKeR]

I’ve never scored anything I’ve shot because I guess I’ve never shot anything that I felt was worth putting a tape measure to.

But I score all the meat 10 out of 10!!!

 

[BrowningRage]

Gross, but big is big. I have never understood the reason for B&C and P&Y giving credit for “air”. Inside spread measurement.
Having a water displacement type system would be awesome. Giving credit for total bone on any given animal.

I agree Butts. I like the idea of the water displacement as a score.

 

[BrowningRage]

I like Gross because it accounts for all the bone that is there. Tracking 'net' scores is weird to me, really they're just tracking larger Gross score deer with similar deductions to lesser Gross score deer.

If NET score was the goal, shouldn't they actually be looking for most symmetrical, in which case the 'record' should be any deer with "0" deductions..? Anybody know of any such bucks.?

 

[roadrunner]

If NET score was the goal, shouldn't they actually be looking for most symmetrical, in which case the 'record' should be any deer with "0" deductions..? Anybody know of any such bucks.?

Net score is the participation trophy of the hunting world...

 

[nontypical]

Why would you deduct what he grew?? He grew it; give him credit for it!

 

[elkhunterUT]

I love the idea of water displacement, or some method of scoring that gives complete credit to ALL the bone the animal grew.

Gross score even misses the boat to some degree - not that it matters at all to me, but my bull from last year does not get full credit for all of his mass. The mass measurements are the smallest circumferences at the various points. For his H3 (between 3rd and 4th points) measurement, he was like 7 2/8" at the smallest spot if I remember correctly, but that mass pushes up to 9-10" as you get closer to the 4th point. He doesn't get credit for that, and that kinda sucks

 

[roadrunner]

I love the idea of water displacement, or some method of scoring that gives complete credit to ALL the bone the animal grew.

Gross score even misses the boat to some degree - not that it matters at all to me, but my bull from last year does not get full credit for all of his mass. The mass measurements are the smallest circumferences at the various points. For his H3 (between 3rd and 4th points) measurement, he was like 7 2/8" at the smallest spot if I remember correctly, but that mass pushes up to 9-10" as you get closer to the 4th point. He doesn't get credit for that, and that kinda sucks

Like I said, net is the participation trophy. It makes those who shoot "smaller" animals look better to a mega-toad that deserves the WOW factor.

 

[MT_55]

Some people like Peperoni pizza and others like sausage. I say to each their own with all of the comments. No one person will ever be right or wrong with their point of view because it's exactly that, what THEY like in a deer. And yes, scores are a way of describing the size of the antlers. I ask guys what their deer scored because I find it fascinating how some animals are bigger than they look (usually due to mass).

 

[roadrunner]

Some people like Peperoni pizza and others like sausage. I say to each their own with all of the comments. No one person will ever be right or wrong with their point of view because it's exactly that, what THEY like in a deer. And yes, scores are a way of describing the size of the antlers. I ask guys what their deer scored because I find it fascinating how some animals are bigger than they look (usually due to mass).

Or, we could just change the classification of size based on carcass weight, and to even things out, just slice off a front leg or something and toss it into the garbage so it aligns with the "perfect" hanging carcass weight from a farmed animal...

 

[JakeH]

Or, we could just change the classification of size based on carcass weight, and to even things out, just slice off a front leg or something and toss it into the garbage so it aligns with the "perfect" hanging carcass weight from a farmed animal...

I see what you did there. ?

 

[MT_55]

Explain what he did there Jake and how that relates to my post..

 

[JakeH]

Explain what he did there Jake and how that relates to my post..

I don't know exactly what it has to do with your post. But he's saying using a net score is like cutting off large chunks of antler to make the buck "perfect" by someone else's standards.

 

[roadrunner]

I don't know exactly what it has to do with your post. But he's saying using a net score is like cutting off large chunks of antler to make the buck "perfect" by someone else's standards.

It was just an opinion anyway...

 

[Hunter53]

I have always been more of a gross score guy. It was solidified after shooting this guy and seeing the difference between gross and net score.

 

[MT_55]

My god that is a brute!

 

[bigmoose]

This buck has been officially measured and nets 171. I'm not sure that tells the whole story. His gross score is 186 with a 180 main frame. I think most of you guys have bucks that fall into this bracket. It's just extremely rare to net 190 and over, even then the buck will have scored more. Isn't more better ? LOL

 

[Captain_coues]

Score doesn’t really matter except in a few cases. If I have an official record animal, I go by the net score since that’s what qualifies it. Unless I’m next to someone I’m trying to impress, then I go by gross since it’s a bigger number and it does something to the person listening when it hits their ears.