Gregg Ritz charged in Missouri

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Gregg Ritz, who comes out west to wound a few mule deer each year with his bow has been charged in Missouri for illegally killing a deer over bait and then letting it rot instead of harvesting the meat. There are two charges, the waste charge is below.

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Killing a whitetail just to take pictures of it and let it rot is everything that's wrong with these hunting "celebrities" today.

The only way to stop this crap is to let his sponsors and shows know you won't tolerate it.

He represents the following TV shows:

Hunt Masters
The Crush with Lee and Tiffany
Addicted to the Outdoors
Whitetail Freaks
The lindsey Way
Drop Zone

He is paid by:

Mathews
Mission
Hornady
Yamaha
BigTine
Reconyx
Midway
DNZ products
Realtree
Black Eagle Arrows
Zero Trace
Leopold
Outdoor Edge Knives
Marathon Seat Covers
WASP broadheads
Shadow Hunter Blinds
MTN Ops
Garmin
Bobcat
Rinehart
Caldwell
Nose Jammer
Kasco
Hi Mountain Seasonings
B&W Trailer Hitches
BOG
Traeger
QuietKat
HuntStand
Kolpin
HuntVault
Hooyman


Description: 4110009:No Persn Who Takeor Poss Any Wldlfe Shall Wantnly Leave/Abndn Any Portin Or Wldlfe Used As Human Food { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 252.040 }
Date: 01/03/2020 Code: 252.040-004N201962.0
Ticket Number: 000460150 Arresting Agency: MO DEPT OF CONV-PROTECTION DV
 
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That is awful. Thanks TruthSeeker. I sure hope whoever pays him - drops him quick so he can't pay for his lovely little private properties. Surprised his Facebook account is still active?
 
Another value added post from Tristate. At least he did not openly support the poacher. Maybe he learned from the last 20 times he did and got called out for it. Or that famous guide he worships finally got the restraining order signed.
 
Never have openly supported a poacher here. No need to lie to folks Treedagain. I'll make you the same deal I have made everyone here. If you can quote where I have "openly supported a poacher" I will leave these forums. I imagine you will be like the rest and just keep lying.

I openly support our judicial system and the rule of law.
 
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Ritz is just like the majority of the hunting Hollywood elite. A disgrace to the shooting sports and outdoor persons for the sake of sponsorships, ratings, and the almighty dollar. Greedy ungrateful SOB... Sets a prime example for his followers and tomorrows hunters.
 
Focoelkman said:
That is awful. Thanks TruthSeeker. I sure hope whoever pays him - drops him quick so he can't pay for his lovely little private properties. Surprised his Facebook account is still active?
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i'm sure those FB posts will be deleted soon. This just hit a nerve with me. I saw a child on their first hunt pass up a buck because it wasn't big enough for instagram and guys like this perpetuate that trash and get paid for it. He has no business hunting and surely no business being an ambassador.
Tristate said:
Nope. I will do what I always do and tell yall let the judicial system do its deal. No need to try and lynch him here.
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this is about more than the judicial system. The judicial system doesn’t care about the future of hunting or the kind of damage this does to our community. It simply enforces laws. Those laws don’t reach the sponsors, the television network, the next generation of hunters. Those laws just say you can’t hunt here for a couple years which has no impact on guys like Gregg who can hunt anywhere. if the community is unaware or doesn’t discuss it forums like these it just happens all over again. It’s up the hunting community to decide whether this is acceptable. So while you just sit back let the judicial system slap a man on the wrist for spitting in the face of the hunting community I say if he is guilty the network should drop his show, his sponsors should walk and the community who gave him this privilege should take it away.
 
Looks like whether you like it or not he does have business hunting.

This isn't about more than the judicial system. This thread is about people who think justice is an internet lynching. If you think it's just a slap on the wrist go pay for his defense. And if he is convicted pay his fines. After all according to you it's no big deal.

The judicial system isn't supposed to care about the future of hunting and lynching folks on the internet doesn't fix any problems.


Ask yourself an honest question. How long has social media existed now? Since social media began has ANYTHING IN HUNTING BECOME BETTER WITH INTERNET LYNCHINGS? People still break wildlife laws. Your hunting isn't any better. Your kids hunting isn't going to be brighter. You would think by now all your internet ranting would have changed the world. But it doesn't.

Truthseeker,

Please let us know what you do for a living.
 
Tristate said:
Looks like whether you like it or not he does have business hunting.

This isn't about more than the judicial system. This thread is about people who think justice is an internet lynching. If you think it's just a slap on the wrist go pay for his defense. And if he is convicted pay his fines. After all according to you it's no big deal.

The judicial system isn't supposed to care about the future of hunting and lynching folks on the internet doesn't fix any problems.


Ask yourself an honest question. How long has social media existed now? Since social media began has ANYTHING IN HUNTING BECOME BETTER WITH INTERNET LYNCHINGS? People still break wildlife laws. Your hunting isn't any better. Your kids hunting isn't going to be brighter. You would think by now all your internet ranting would have changed the world. But it doesn't.

Truthseeker,

Please let us know what you do for a living.
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Just like any other business operation, or celebs doing or saying dumb thing....there most certainly is a public relations reality backlash. There is no constitutional provision to prevent morons from torpedoing their own ship in addition to their legal woes. Agree or disagree, it's a fact of life. Public opinion and Branding aren't constrained by any prerequisites.
 
I'm sorry 1911. Just as these posters have a higher expectation of behavior from their celebrities, I have always had a higher expectation of hunters. I was raised believing hunters tend to be ladies and gentlemen. They are fundamentally strong. Christianity runs heavy within our circle. Wishing corporate failure and loss of property on a person for presumed legal infraction seems perpendicular to those beliefs.

1911,

If you failed to yield right of way and caused a fender bender do you believe since you are in law enforcement and know better should you be stripped of your ability to make money and loose your home???? I don't.
 
Treedagain,

Do you have a life without me?

Can you explain what this person is accused of poaching. Sounds like he legally harvested an animal. Sounds like he is accused of wasting a legal kill. That ain't poaching. Details matter. You can't even say he stole from anyone this time.
 
Tri, if 1911 intentionally failed to yield the right of way and caused a wreck, yes he should lose his job.

Wanton waste is no different.
 
Why should he loose his job Eelgrass?

"And Tri, you're the only one on this thread who used the term poaching."


Nope. That's incorrect but I wouldn't blame you if you have Treedagain on ignore and just missed his posts. ;)
 
Tristate, it's strange you are argumentative about this as we are fundamentally in agreement. I too believe hunters to be of a general higher ilk. I also think a man is innocent until proven guilty. However, I know what went down here and can assure you this is legit.
This not a lynching. This is a raising of awareness about a recurring issue in the hunting community. Gregg Ritz has made millions off hunters from his days in marketing at thompson center to the sale of Thompson Center to S&W to his agency representation of other hunting shows and his own show. He has profited mightily from his efforts. The guy is in no danger of losing of his home.
He also chose to kill a whitetail illegally, take pictures with it to line his pockets with sponsor dollars and left it to rot. That's not an accident, it's not a "fender bender" it's intentionally breaking the law and breaking the moral code of hunters to pump his ego and make money. The judicial system will handle the law, the community will decide whether or not he is allowed to continue to represent us.
 
Okay, you're right Tri, treedagain did use #poachers unite....lol

There is a slim chance that a poacher has some redeeming qualities.
There is zero chance that someone who intentionally causes wanton waste should continue pretending to be a hunter, IMO.

Why should 1911 lose his job if he intentionally causes wrecks as a highway patrolman? Gee, I don't know. Maybe I'm just not Christian enough. :)
 
I had to look him up. I recognized the name but couldn't picture him.

His hunt masters show had Ben O brien as a guest.

Is that the same Ben O Brien from The Hunting Collective podcast that is devoted to hunter ethics?
 
" However, I know what went down here and can assure you this is legit."

I never said it wasn't "legit" and you don't know everything unless you were there on sight.

"This not a lynching."

Yes it is. Saying it isn't doesn't make it so. Plenty of people stood next to dead men hanging from a tree limb and called it justice. It wasn't.

" This is a raising of awareness about a recurring issue in the hunting community. Gregg Ritz has made millions off hunters from his days in marketing at thompson center to the sale of Thompson Center to S&W to his agency representation of other hunting shows and his own show."

The money that people make or don't make has zero relevence to whether or not they commit a crime or the punishment which they receive unless the money was the crime itself or ill gotten.

" He has profited mightily from his efforts. The guy is in no danger of losing of his home."

How do you know? You have absolutely no idea of his money nor do you have any control over the damage that follows after you lynch him here. In fact another poster here has already stated what he wants to see happen to him. " I sure hope whoever pays him - drops him quick so he can't pay for his lovely little private properties. " Sounds like that guy wants more than just a pound of flesh.


"He also chose to kill a whitetail illegally,"

How is he accused of illegally killing the deer? Please elaborate.

" take pictures with it to line his pockets with sponsor dollars and left it to rot."

That is what he is accused of. Guess what? If he did, or didn't do it, he gets to face justice now. I can accept that.


" That's not an accident, it's not a "fender bender" it's intentionally breaking the law and breaking the moral code of hunters to pump his ego and make money."

My example was an intentional crime that lead to a "fender bender" so it makes sense. Can you point to this "moral code" you speak of and who wrote it. Don't confuse your ethics as morality.

" The judicial system will handle the law, the community will decide whether or not he is allowed to continue to represent us. "

That's great. He never did represent me. I don't have a problem if you decide he doesn't represent you. I have a problem with you attacking him, people that work for him, people who sponsor him, and people who do business with him.
 
"There is a slim chance that a poacher has some redeeming qualities.
There is zero chance that someone who intentionally causes wanton waste should continue pretending to be a hunter, IMO."

Sounds like there are farmers, ranchers, and wildlife biologists can no longer be hunters then. Welcome to the real world Eelgrass. Millions and millions of animals are killed every year and left to rot. I'm not saying people who do it illegally should get off but be careful how you group people.

"Why should 1911 lose his job if he intentionally causes wrecks as a highway patrolman? "

I never said he intentionally causes wrecks in the example. People who don't yield right of way do that intentionally. The wreck is the result.


Eelgrass,

Have you ever been ticketed for a wildlife violation?
 
Cool. Keep defending this guy. Here is the police report.

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Eelgrass,

Do you feel you deserve to loose your job and any real estate you may own because of that violation? How about family members and friends of yours or people you do business with? Should their names be dragged into your violation also?


Truthseeker,

I am not defending the guy from the law. I am defending the guy, sponsors, and employees from people who think an internet lynching is justice.

The interesting part of the story is it seems Ritz didn't know baiting was illegal. Heck he tells everyone in his own facebook post he did it. This actually brings up a really interesting topic but we will get there soon.
 
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Guys I thought this was another ho-hum wildlife case. This is actually the most interesting wildlife case I have ever seen on these forums.

Follow along.

1. Why do you admit to baiting a field for deer with the kill pic?

2. Why do you gut a deer you plan are going to leave to rot?

3. Why do you leave the deer to rot?


These are actually very important questions yall should be asking. Maybe there is more than one conclusion but the most logical is absolutely amazing. Yall need to know some wildlife law here.
 
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

If a person makes their living as a hunter, it might make sense to read the damn regulation booklet, don't you think?
 
BuzzH said:
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

If a person makes their living as a hunter, it might make sense to read the damn regulation booklet, don't you think?
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True true.....but in this case didn’t this report list phone call evidence the he arranged the baiting?....hard to claim ignorance of it.
 
Trust me, he knew exactly what he was doing. It’s why you don’t see the buck eating the bait in the video he posted. Regardless it’s not the baiting... it’s letting the thing rot after he got what he wanted, a few pics and a th show. And Lied about it to the officer. It’s pretty clear guys.
 
"Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. "

Nobody here is saying it is. But people have accused him of intentionally doing something and it looks like on the first charge he didn't know he was breaking the law. On the second charge he may very well have no choice but to break the law.

Actually whether he told some one to do it for him or not doesn't show whether he knew the law or not. I have asked people to fill feeders for me before.
 
Come on MuleCreek. You can do better than that. Do you really think Ritz is dumb???

Put some thought to it because this one is amazing.
 
Tristate said:
"Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. "

Nobody here is saying it is. But people have accused him of intentionally doing something and it looks like on the first charge he didn't know he was breaking the law. On the second charge he may very well have no choice but to break the law.

Actually whether he told some one to do it for him or not doesn't show whether he knew the law or not. I have asked people to fill feeders for me before.
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How does one "unintentionally" dump a bunch of bait on the ground to attract deer?

Just curious.
 
BuzzH said:
How does one "unintentionally" dump a bunch of bait on the ground to attract deer?

Just curious.
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You know exactly what I am saying buzzh. It's no different than going 65 and missing the sign saying the speed limit dropped to 55. Yes. You intended to go 65. That still doesn't show you intend to speed. Yes you still get the ticket.

As for reading the regulation book. You bet it makes sense. However you don't have to read 40 different ones a year. Then keep it straight.
 
"Tri, do you have any fish and wildlife violations? Past or present?"

No I do not. I will keep trying to keep it that way. Please forgive me if I fail.

"I was self employed at the time of mine so I didn't fire myself."

Well I'm sure glad you stayed employed.(y)
 
Don't try and make this about me now hornkiller. I am the number one advocate of justice.

Doesn't anybody see the bigger picture here? It really is quite amazing. It's the first time I have ever seen it work out like this and I bet the feds are pissed.
 
Fellers, do continue the dog fight, but for the love of the gods it is "lose" not "loose". I swear if I keep seeing "loosing" your rights or something along that vein, I am going to "lose" my $h!T or "loosen" my bowels.

Continue on with the regularly scheduled pissing contest. I am grading papers tomorrow! ;)
 
Tri, correct me if I am wrong here. You stated that he needs to keep up with 40 different reg. books throughout the year. Do you think any of those states will allow a hunter to leave an animal to waste?
 
Don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. Haven't got a clue.
Not important. Come on guys. I gave yall a clue. This is like something off a law and order episode.
 
Tristate said:
Don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. Haven't got a clue.
Not important. Come on guys. I gave yall a clue. This is like something off a law and order episode.
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He didn’t take the deer across state lines so it isn’t a lacy act violation giving jurisdiction to the federal government. And if that is why he left it to rot then he also knew he killed it illegally.
 
Somebody give hunt the west a loly pop! He is pretty dang close.

So imagine you go hunt in another state. You kill an animal. Right after you gut the animal someone in your party notifies you that you have broken a wildlife law. Maybe it isn't even someone in your hunting party. Maybe you texted your buddy and he told you. What do you do?
 
And the saga continues. Sounds innocent to me, just a simple honest mistake. That's the delusional Texan talking.

#poacherforpresident
 
Tristate said:
Somebody give hunt the west a loly pop! He is pretty dang close.

So imagine you go hunt in another state. You kill an animal. Right after you gut the animal someone in your party notifies you that you have broken a wildlife law. Maybe it isn't even someone in your hunting party. Maybe you texted your buddy and he told you. What do you do?
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What if he knew from the beginning he was doing something illegal and then someone called him out on it after he shot the buck?
 
What would I do? Face the music and learn from it. If I got caught stealing from my workplace I'd lose my job too. I'd expect that. There are other jobs.
 
Surprise eelgrass! You are getting charged with a federal felony now. You will never get to handle a fire arm again. You will loose your job and probably find it extremely hard to find employment. Since you have a previous conviction you may actually serve some time behind bars. Hossblur and Treedagain are going to ruin you on the internet. ?The music kind of sucks.

There is one way out. What do you think the one way out is?
 
I got no dog in this one.

That ignore button sure is nice.

But. I saw the OP this morning.

I looked the dude up because I recognized name but couldn't put a face to it.

2 things.

1. If I'm a hunting "celebrity" making money from sponsors, I would have been out in front of this on every social media platform. Not some 30 min video like antler trader, but a real short video, acknowkedging what was out there, a strongly worded denial, and end it with "because I am 100% INNOCENT(not guilty and innocent are 2 different things), I put this out before any rumors started"

Waiting until later, then having your lawyer write a statement after I guessing he started having sponsor issues, doesn't look good.

Neither does "not guilty"

2. On CSI or Law and Order, having a body is a big deal. Seems like from the charges, they have a body. That one will be hard to get away from.

Ignore buttons shorten these poaching threads to useable info, and intelligent posts.
 
I say his name and poof he's here. Ignore means something totally different in the dimension which Hossblur operates.?
 
A felony rap? I'd work a deal with the DA. I'd plead guilty to the baiting charge with probation in exchange for information on a cartel marijuana grow on my buddies ranch. :(
 
this thread sucks... i could only read about 50 % before i threw up in my mouth at all this BS . everyone knows letting a deer lay after you kill it is wrong (ILLEGAL).
 
So self adsorbed in his picture taking for his special TV show, after he illegally baited. Leaving the deer to rot, because the a-hole only cared about how he looks on film, but his buddies new it was wrong that’s why he’s in this mess. Another one gone and I never watched his show
 
He knew he was screwed with the baiting charge so he didn’t take it across state lines. Probably knew he was being watched by the warden or his cameraman informant told him he was busted. If he had taken it home, boom—lacy act violation and felony charges. So he chose the lesser crime which was morally worse to most guys because he not only baited, he also wasted that deer. And if he “comes clean”, maybe he is still able to be charged with conspiracy to commit or something like that.

I’m sure this guy will lose his hunting privileges for several years which is probably fair if he did the crime. But that Lacy act crap is bullshiz. It’s being misused from its original purpose to stop market hunting and gets used to go after guys committing run of the mills violations who happen to be hunting out of state. I don’t think many are actually convicted of a felony in the end, but it’s a ridiculous amount of leverage for the prosecutor to use when plea bargaining. To be clear this guy needs punishing, but our screwed up legal system encouraged him to waste that animal for fear that his life would be ruined by a felony charge. At least that’s what I speculate.
 
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Hawkbill and Highcountryman,

You have two choices. A federal Felony Charge or a state misdemeanor ticket. Which do yall take? Answer the question.
 
eelgrass said:
A felony rap? I'd work a deal with the DA. I'd plead guilty to the baiting charge with probation in exchange for information on a cartel marijuana grow on my buddies ranch. :(
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Truthseeker would decide you got off to easy and notify the Cartels. They would skin you and your entire family alive and post it on their blog. Then Truthseeker would be happy. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 
Tristate said:
Willfrye207,

You can see the bigger picture. I agree with most of what you said.
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A friend went through some crap for a very minor violation a few years back. Took him through hell and back. Without his experience I would be with the rest of these guys, no hunting for life, send him to prison, blah blah blah.
 
The only thing you are a little off on Willfrye is the fact that he doesn't even have to take any part across state lines. The Feds just have to establish intent. Because of that he basically has to make sure he gets the wanton waste ticket also. That's the only way he can establish intent not to move any part across a state line.

It really is amazing. When the Feds stick a gun in your face you can do some decisions you never thought you would make.

Hell at this point of the game I don't think he could even state, "I would have taken the deer but I was scared of breaking the law". Just by making that statement he is up for federal prosecution again.

As for coming clean the state game warden will set him up. He can turn himself in to the state game warden on the baiting charge. The state warden can give him a ticket and say I'm not seizing the deer. Offender goes home with the deer and the ticket thinking he did the right thing. Meanwhile the state game warden has turned his info over to the Feds and he is TOTALLY SCREWED. I have actually seen this happen before.
 
Another bunch of quality posts by liestate. What a tool! Internet know it all, our own Cliff Klavin.
Kinda like if he ever played basket ball...nothing but air

#poachersrock
 
I will say if this guy knew about lacy act and wasted his deer because of it...he is an idiot for baiting in the first place. Personally I think lacy used to get guys crossing state lines for average violations is wrong. but for me it makes me hyper vigilant about any gray areas and really making sure to understand all the regs and not walk the line. So maybe he has it coming.
 
TruthSeeker said:
Gregg Ritz, who comes out west to wound a few mule deer each year with his bow has been charged in Missouri for illegally killing a deer over bait and then letting it rot instead of harvesting the meat. There are two charges, the waste charge is below.

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Case 460150

Killing a whitetail just to take pictures of it and let it rot is everything that's wrong with these hunting "celebrities" today.

The only way to stop this crap is to let his sponsors and shows know you won't tolerate it.

He represents the following TV shows:

Hunt Masters
The Crush with Lee and Tiffany
Addicted to the Outdoors
Whitetail Freaks
The lindsey Way
Drop Zone

He is paid by:

Mathews
Mission
Hornady
Yamaha
BigTine
Reconyx
Midway
DNZ products
Realtree
Black Eagle Arrows
Zero Trace
Leopold
Outdoor Edge Knives
Marathon Seat Covers
WASP broadheads
Shadow Hunter Blinds
MTN Ops
Garmin
Bobcat
Rinehart
Caldwell
Nose Jammer
Kasco
Hi Mountain Seasonings
B&W Trailer Hitches
BOG
Traeger
QuietKat
HuntStand
Kolpin
HuntVault
Hooyman


Description: 4110009:No Persn Who Takeor Poss Any Wldlfe Shall Wantnly Leave/Abndn Any Portin Or Wldlfe Used As Human Food { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 252.040 }
Date: 01/03/2020 Code: 252.040-004N201962.0
Ticket Number: 000460150 Arresting Agency: MO DEPT OF CONV-PROTECTION DV
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What is the ticket for exactly? Leaving the whole animal or not taking taking enough of it ?
 
Option 3 would be to take the deer to a processor and donate it. Would have made for a week's worth of Instagram posts about donating meat and helping others. The guy could have been patting himself on the back to 10,000 more likes.

I'm just surprised there isn't more outrage that baiting is illegal in Missouri. How those Missourians could have passed a law that infringes on the hunter's right to do what they want......

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Packout said:
Option 3 would be to take the deer to a processor and donate it. Would have made for a week's worth of Instagram posts about donating meat and helping others. The guy could have been patting himself on the back to 10,000 more likes.

I'm just surprised there isn't more outrage that baiting is illegal in Missouri. How those Missourians could have passed a law that infringes on the hunter's right to do what they want......

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You don't understand. Option 3 means he has to wait for weeks to prove his intent. If at any point the game warden picks up the deer before he can get it to the person he is donating it to he gets ticketed and the assumption is that his intent is to transport it across state lines.
 
"Why are these the only two choices? Should there not be a choice to just obey hunting laws?"

Vanilla,

You have broken hunting laws. Doesn't mean you are a bad guy. Just means you are a hunter. There is no one that can keep track of all of them. Especially when traveling to hunt.


I told you guys a couple of weeks ago I almost ended up in trouble for not holding onto my tag stub when I killed my LE Cougar. When I went to do the mandatory harvest check in I had my skull with skin and proof of sex. I had my hunting license, signed. I had my tag date cut and signed. The warden asked to see the stub to my tag. My eyes got as big as saucers. After a few minutes of digging I found it wadded up in the bottom of my pack. I want to obey the law. I TRY LIKE HELL TO OBEY THE LAW. My job depends on me obeying the law. At that moment I was one tiny little slip up from a federal felony. Do yall know any other group that stays that close to a felony as hunters do? I don't.

It "just" ain't as simple as everyone would like to think.
 
Packout said:
Option 3 would be to take the deer to a processor and donate it. Would have made for a week's worth of Instagram posts about donating meat and helping others. The guy could have been patting himself on the back to 10,000 more likes.

I'm just surprised there isn't more outrage that baiting is illegal in Missouri. How those Missourians could have passed a law that infringes on the hunter's right to do what they want......

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This is exactly what I was thinking Packout. Donate the meat. Great minds think alike.:)
 
“At that moment I was one tiny little slip up from a federal felony”

A federal felony? Over losing your state issued tag stub? No. Warning at best. Unless you have had past issues with these same types of infractions

What part of a lion killed in Utah and being checked in, in Utah, has anything to do with federal law?
 
"What part of a lion killed in Utah and being checked in, in Utah, has anything to do with federal law?'

Its called the Lacey act. You break one tiny wildlife law that is a misdemeanor and all they have to say is that you have intent to travel across a state or national boundary with any part of the animal and you are now going to be prosecuted for a federal felony. It can be a $25 ticket. Doesn't matter.
 
Tristate said:
"What part of a lion killed in Utah and being checked in, in Utah, has anything to do with federal law?'

Its called the Lacey act. You break one tiny wildlife law that is a misdemeanor and all they have to say is that you have intent to travel across a state or national boundary with any part of the animal and you are now going to be prosecuted for a federal felony. It can be a $25 ticket. Doesn't matter.
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What law did you break? The animal is tagged with the appropriate notches made in it. You’ve satisfied their legal tagging requirements. Where does it say you need to be in possession of the tag stub at all times after the tag is cut from it?
 
"What law did you break? The animal is tagged with the appropriate notches made in it. You’ve satisfied their legal tagging requirements. Where does it say you need to be in possession of the tag stub at all times after the tag is cut from it? "

Hell if I know. I'm just trying to comply with game wardens.

Here in Texas we have game wardens that can't agree on the rules. They aren't bad game wardens but there are so many dam rules NOBODY can keep track of it all. Not even Vanilla.
 
"This is exactly what I was thinking Packout. Donate the meat. Great minds think alike. "

I think this is a great idea. To bad you still probably get charged with a federal crime.
 
“Hell if I know. I'm just trying to comply with game wardens.“

you seem a little paranoid and over dramatic. There isn’t any laws stating you must have your stub with you after the harvest. And here you are saying you’re potentially gonna get whacked with a federal felony
 
Gamble all you want deerkiller. If I don't take it seriously I loose my livelyhood. It's a little different for guys who are in my business and do a lot of business across state lines.
 
Tristate said:
Vanilla,

You have broken hunting laws. Doesn't mean you are a bad guy. Just means you are a hunter. There is no one that can keep track of all of them. Especially when traveling to hunt.
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I got a citation fishing at Pyramid Lake just last year for a minor infraction I was not aware I was violating. (I left my ladder in the water for too long while taking a break out of the water and not fishing.) The difference between you and I is I just immediately accepted responsibility for my own oversight and paid the ticket. You would sit and argue with people on the internet about nothing in particular for weeks on end only to get someone to quit talking about it.
 

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