>LAST EDITED ON Mar-11-11
>AT 10:02?PM (MST)
>
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>>ALL "college / university professors" are
>>OVERPAID
>
>I beg to differ - I
>am currently teaching 4 classes
>in 3 different locations for
>3 different College/Universities commuting on
>the average 1 1/2 hours
>a day between locations and
>I guarantee you I am
>not making enough to feed
>my family. Mind you I
>am only currently an Adjunct
>Assistant Professor of Spanish -
>I don't have a tenure-track
>position yet, but I don't
>get any benefits, I am
>not guaranteed any classes from
>one semester to the next
>and to tell you the
>truth, I represent the majority
>(by sheer numbers) of college
>professors. Even when I
>do get a tenure-track position
>I doubt I will make
>more than $60K/year for the
>first 7 years while I
>am in a "probationary status".
>If that is overpaid, then
>I guess you are right.
>
>
>The tenure system is currently under
>attack by a lot of
>conservative media pundits because they
>don't like the fact that
>they perceive they have competition
>for control of the weak
>minded of this nation. Just
>like in the classroom -
>don't believe everything you hear
>on the radio or see
>on TV even if it
>appears to follow along with
>what you are comfortable believing.
>These media pundits would have
>you believe that all college/university
>professors are just rich fat
>cats working in cush jobs
>because they can't hack the
>real world. That is a
>load of bullcrap - and
>if you are as intelligent
>as you are claiming to
>be then you should no
>more believe it than the
>liberal rhetoric you are being
>fed and refuse to believe
>from your wolf-loving professors. The
>tenure process is a legitimate
>prescribed promotion process that weeds
>out the lazy and poor
>professors from the dilligent, hard
>working, committed academic professionals. Yes
>there is always a fair
>amount of politics invloved in
>the process, but no more
>than exists in a corporate
>environment. I guarantee you that
>if you were to take
>away the prescribed promotion process
>away from these talking heads
>they would raise holy hell
>over the airwaves about how
>unfairly they are being treated.
>The bottom line is -
>don't believe everything you hear
>on the radio or on
>TV and expect everyone to
>have an agenda other than
>what they are saying. Which
>brings me to my next
>point...
>
>and they seem to
>>think it their personal calling
>>to LIBERALIZE all of us,
>>while on the job OR
>>OFF -
>
>I will admit that there are
>many liberal professors who don't
>have a clue as to
>what is happening in the
>real world. BUT it is
>always the students responsibility to
>filter the information as useful
>or not. This is not
>High School any more -
>you can now choose what
>to think and how to
>react to it. In fact,
>this is the great purpose
>of a Universiy education -
>you get out of it
>what you put into it.
>YOU are the central factor
>in your education. Your professor
>is only a guide along
>the path of your educational/career
>goals. The same thing applies
>to the textbook - use
>it as a resource -
>not the end all /
>be all of your higher
>education experience. YOU take control
>of what you learn and
>how you assimilate it -
>the purpose of a university
>education is to teach you
>HOW to think, not WHAT
>to think.
>
>Believe me, I have been fed
>a lot of educational garbage
>that I don't care to
>follow or believe in. However,
>I have carefully picked through
>this garbage to form my
>own opinions and you can
>bet your ass that I
>am as well versed in
>these contrary opinions as I
>am in my own area
>of focus. If you are
>going to get into an
>academic argument - you better
>understand both sides thoroughly before
>you spout off or you
>will just sound immature and
>narrow minded and from then
>on your opinions will be
>regarded as a copy cat
>version of a part of
>a greater argument you don't
>fully understand.
>
>
>
> By all means,
>>DISAGREE WITH THEM, it is
>>illegal to hold your grade
>>hostage for the sake of
>>an opinion as long as
>>rules are abided by and
>>you are not "disruptive"
>
>Yes - disagree and challenge their
>positions - but do so
>intelligently. Cross your t's and
>dot your i's -don't come
>to these arguments half-cocked with
>some information you haven't fully
>and carefully researched. It has
>been my experience that it
>is far more important that
>you argue your position well
>and back it up with
>fact and data than to
>rely on a contrary opinion.
>Even if you agree with
>the professor, don't just toe
>his or her line and
>expect it all to turn
>out in your favor becuase
>you agree. BRING IT. If
>you are going to write
>a paper - write it
>well. I can almost guarantee
>you that most professors don't
>care what you believe or
>what you write, just as
>long as they can't poke
>holes in your argument and
>if your paper isn't poorly
>written (which is most likely
>the problem) they are not
>going to "hold your grade
>hostage". And, if they do
>and you feel your work
>is solid, you can always
>appeal your grade to the
>department chair, supervisor or dean.
>Their job is to make
>sure that the students are
>treated fairly.
>
>>"Life is tough, It's alot tougher
>>if you're stupid"
>
>Couldn't have said it much better
>myself!
>
>UTROY
>Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
First, in an open market how much do you think a Spanish professor is worth, compared to say a microbiology, chemistry, accounting professor? Second, why is a botany professor yapping about wolves? Or for that matter a Spanish professor yapping about deer? Do your job. My mechanic doesn't paint my house. My painter doesn't do my taxes. My spanish professor shouldn't waste my time talking about anything other than spanish, that is what I PAID FOR, I am the customer, I AM RIGHT!!!
Argue with the dumb bastards, its fun. I had a english professor who decided to discuss women as front line combat troops. We fought about it, me vs. the class and professor. As ususal these academic pinheads have all sorts of theory and stats. I went with what happens when bad guy takes women prisoner, rape??? Then just to make my point I laid on the floor and challenged any woman in the class to pick me up and carry me to the door. My point, if I get shot sure would be nice if someone picked me up and got me out of there. Needless to say no one could. The problem, I PAID for that day and we did NO english related activities.
No disrespect but you went to school 4 yrs as an undergrad, then grad school? Then PhD? You spent 7+yrs and how many tens of thousands of dollars to get a job that paid 60k? "What were you thinking" You were thinking that once you got tenure, you were set for life, just like other professors.
