FOR YEARS I SHOT A FIXED BLADE BROADHEAD AND HAD GOOD RESULTS.IN JAN OF 2007 I STARTED SHOOTING SONORAN TWO BLADE MECHANICALS AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING,I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.IVE SHOT 9 BIG GAME ANIMALS THIS YEAR AND THE RESULTS WERE ALL THE SAME. FAST RECOVERY.DOES IT REALLY MATTER WHAT BROADHEAD YOU SHOOT? I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO SHOT PLACEMENT.
FIXED OR MECHANICAL BROADHEADS
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Shot placement with a sharp broadhead is where its at. I've always used fixed blades and have tried many heads but all had to pass my sharpness test before seeing hunting action, most don't. So I shoot a head that I can sharpen to my standards. When I put that coc head were it belongs most animals have no idea they are shot as the arrow passes thru. They also don't go very far, usually within 10ft to 50yds or less.
RabidRattleSnake1
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Can't beat the Monotec. I shot muzzy for years, but now I just don't see any other broadhead that will match the G5. just my two cents. Go with what you feel comfortable with.
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AZWALKER
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9 big game animals this year with a bow... you da man... I'd love to see some pics man! Congrats on a great year. I shoot Montecs, usually. I shot my Sep buck with a Grim Reaper. Head was fine except for the fact that it broke at the insert.
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ClarkW
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I just don't know what to think on this subject. I shot a big bull elk with a 125gr. Vortex on aluminum arrows a long time ago and it did a great job, but a few years after I switched to carbons and 100 gr, Vortex and had bad results. I killed a bull at 22 yards, but as soon as the arrow hit it went straight up and only got a few inches of penetration. The bull died, but if the shot had not been exact there is no way. Also lost a bull at 10 yards that the arrow did the same thing. This time not so lucky as I hot a bit high. I swore off of mechanicals after that but I know several people who swear by them and have killed several animals with them. I just don't know what is the best to use.
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AZWALKER
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LAST EDITED ON Dec-27-07 AT 07:12PM (MST)[p]The only thing mechanicals have over fixed is that they're supposed to fly better, well.... if your bow is tuned right, fixed should fly just as good. The only differance will be more of a pin gap with fixed, but not much. Like I said in my last post, I used Grim Reapers for the early hunt, well what I didn't tell you is that after shooting them into targets not more than 20 times, 2 of the blades on 1 of the heads snapped. One blade on another one. Grim Reapers are supposed to be the toughest mechanicals out there. Sorry, that won't cut it in my book. It just isn't worth taking a chance. If you can't get fixed blades to fly right 99% of the time your bow is out of tune or you're torqueing the bow in some way when you shoot.
Donnie
P.S. I edited this post because I said something I shouldn't have,
Donnie
P.S. I edited this post because I said something I shouldn't have,
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canhunter
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Fixed...how many fixed compared to expandables do you see making minimal penetration on hunting video's?
completesportsman
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Like a post above said, if your bow is tuned the fixed fly perfect. I use only fixed, I feel like generally they are more durable and penetrate better.
ironhead
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I understand the confidence you have in your mech. broadheads but, the newer lines of fixed BH's Wac'ems, Montec, Shuttle T locks, Slickticks and so on fly just like a feild point but don't have the moving parts, so in my eyes a fixed is less inclined to fail. (this is my reasoning for using fixed blades I am not saying fixed are better than mechs.)
LAST EDITED ON Dec-28-07 AT 01:11PM (MST)[p]Last year I switched to the G5 Tekan II, which IMO is a cross between fixed and mechanical. It has a cut on contact head, which is what everyone wants in a fixed blade broadhead. It also has rearward deploying blades. It seems to me that there are two main negative things that I hear about mechanicals.
1 Deflection, as stated above with Grim Reapers, because most mechanical heads do not have a cut on contact head. 2 The loss of KE required to open the blades. The Tekan II solves both of these problems. The blades require only 3 pounds of pressure to deploy. I have killed elk with this head and a couple of my buddies have killed elk with this head and it has performed flawlessly each and every time.
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1 Deflection, as stated above with Grim Reapers, because most mechanical heads do not have a cut on contact head. 2 The loss of KE required to open the blades. The Tekan II solves both of these problems. The blades require only 3 pounds of pressure to deploy. I have killed elk with this head and a couple of my buddies have killed elk with this head and it has performed flawlessly each and every time.
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deserteagle500
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now i thought that the tekans were great until i saw the tiny hole it put in the animal. guess the buck still died, but just a tiny almost bullet hole. i like 4 bladed muzzys. good arrow, goos broad head, criticaly good shot placement and you're in business. if i had to shoot an expandable i'd go with the grim reaper. puts the nastiest hole i've ever seen in a deer. blood trail thicker than peanut butter.
the only eagle with enough power and speed to kill and gut you with one shot
the only eagle with enough power and speed to kill and gut you with one shot
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AZWALKER
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I guess my question would be... why risk it??? Why risk having a blade break or for some odd reason the blades don't deploy or have a deflection??? Its just not worth it in my mind. Besides, I'd rather my bow be tuned perfectly and be able to shoot any broadhead than to be forced to use a mechanical because I can't get a fixed blade to group. Thats the reason I used Grim Reapers on my last hunt, because I was having trouble getting Montecs to group. Well, I learned a thing or 5 about bow tuning because I wanted to know how to do it myself and found out that my bow was waaaaaayyyy out of tune. Now, my Grim Reapers, Montecs and fields hit the same spot at 20 yds. The Montecs start dropping a little more after 40 but thats only because of the drag on the blades, no big deal and... I have no doubt in my mind that I'm gonna get good penetration and a good blood trail. Confidence in your equipment goes a long way when you've got fur in your peep!!!
Donnie
Donnie
>now i thought that the tekans
>were great until i saw
>the tiny hole it put
>in the animal. guess the
>buck still died, but just
>a tiny almost bullet hole.
>i like 4 bladed muzzys.
>good arrow, goos broad head,
>criticaly good shot placement and
>you're in business. if i
>had to shoot an expandable
>i'd go with the grim
>reaper. puts the nastiest hole
>i've ever seen in a
>deer. blood trail thicker than
>peanut butter.
>
Both of the elk that i've killed with the Tekan II have had exit holes in them compareable to my 300 WSM. That's no lie.
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>were great until i saw
>the tiny hole it put
>in the animal. guess the
>buck still died, but just
>a tiny almost bullet hole.
>i like 4 bladed muzzys.
>good arrow, goos broad head,
>criticaly good shot placement and
>you're in business. if i
>had to shoot an expandable
>i'd go with the grim
>reaper. puts the nastiest hole
>i've ever seen in a
>deer. blood trail thicker than
>peanut butter.
>
Both of the elk that i've killed with the Tekan II have had exit holes in them compareable to my 300 WSM. That's no lie.
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creamofthecrop
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i have never had any problem with grim reapers. all my buddies have switched to them and still have not heard anything bad. they are almost too good to be true if your switching from a fixed
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AZWALKER
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If I could only shoot one mechanical and nothing else... I'd choose Reapers but, they'll never be as reliable as a fixed like a Montec. Again... why shoot a mechanical if you can get a fixed to fly as good as your feild tips????
Donnie
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desertbucks
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I have always been one who said I would never shoot a mechanical, but tried the sonoran mechanical and killed (8) animals in 07 and after seeing animals only going short distances after they were shot I am stuck on mechanicals. If you are going to shoot fixed broadheads try a helical fletch on your arrows, makes a huge difference from straight fletch.
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elk_horn
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the group I hunt with all use rocket steel heads(mechanical)
weve killed 5 elk with this head and never had a problem...shots were anywhere from 20 yards to 70 yards...each elk never went more than 40 yards and droped.. all complete pass through,
weve killed 5 elk with this head and never had a problem...shots were anywhere from 20 yards to 70 yards...each elk never went more than 40 yards and droped.. all complete pass through,
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Wapato
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I have heard of to many instances of mechanical heads failing so why shoot them and take the risk of them failing. The COC's that you can buy now are so accurate out the box that why not use the fixed head which has a much less chance of failing. Try the Magnus Snuffers and you will be very happy.
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hunter1
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i also use the sonoran heads and have never bloodtrailed an animal yet as you can see by the muley i posted in the mule deer and arizona sections. i have taken well over 40 big game animals with it and wont use anything else.
I can be paranoid at times and try to simplify things as much as possible with the fewest chances at mistakes/errors. So I use fixed and only for that reason. Never tried mech. but don't want to take a chance. I'm sure they cut just as well if not better and only malfunction 1/1000 shots or less but when will that one shot come which it probably will eventually...
Mntman
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Mntman
"Hunting is where you prove yourself"
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deserteagle500
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your tekan might put a hole the size of a 300 wsm, but the four bladed muzzys put a 20mm hole through my buddy cody's deer. and same with the grim reapers.
i just like huge cutting diameters
the only eagle with enough power and speed to kill and gut you with one shot
i just like huge cutting diameters
the only eagle with enough power and speed to kill and gut you with one shot
Muzzy 4 blade 100 gr. = 1" cutting dia.
Grim reaper 100 gr. =. 1 3/8" cutting dia.
G5 Tekan II 100 gr = 1 1/2" cutting dia.
Ya I like big cutting diameters too, and the Tekan II has a bigger cutting diameter than both of the heads that you have listed.
One of the many reasons that I switched from Grim Reapers and Muzzy to G5. Much better head IMO.
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Grim reaper 100 gr. =. 1 3/8" cutting dia.
G5 Tekan II 100 gr = 1 1/2" cutting dia.
Ya I like big cutting diameters too, and the Tekan II has a bigger cutting diameter than both of the heads that you have listed.
One of the many reasons that I switched from Grim Reapers and Muzzy to G5. Much better head IMO.
G5 for life!
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redelkarcher
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I'll tell ya'll that I am now a big fan of the G5 Strikers. I have shot Rocket steelheads for the past 3 yrs prior to 07'. This past year I switched to the Striker and first shot did the job on my elk. The head busted through one of the shoulders and was still in good enough condition to shoot again. Great heads IMO.
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desertbucks
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The sonoran broaheads are 1" cutting diameter close and 1 3/4" cutting diameter opened. They are awesome broadheads but again its all up to the individual.
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I have shot 4 elk with my 100 grain spitfires. Anyone that says that you don't get as much penetration with a mechanical vs. a fixed blade is full of it. All 4 elk were shot between 20 and 45 yards and I have yet to keep an arrow in one. Tell me now...if the arrow is passing completely through in all 4 situations, how much more penetration are you looking for?
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AZWALKER
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To each his own. I only know what I've had happen and thats what I go by. I have heard some great things about Sonorans and I may have to give them a try someday, but for now I'll stick to fixed.
Donnie
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MY SONORAN DOES THE JOB AGAIN WITH MY RECENT KILL OF A JAVELINA WHICH I SHOT AT 50 YARDS STRAIGHT UP HILL.THE PIG WENT TEN YARDS AND FELL OVER,AND THE ARROW BLEW RIGHT THREW HIM LIKE HE WASN'T THERE.BOTH FIXED AND MECHANICALS DO THERE JOB ITS ALL ON THE INDIVIDUAL PREFERENCE.
