i aint' the cook at my camp. my wife is. and she is a dern good one too. a real artist with cast iron. she has several smaller dutch ovens that don't have legs or a rimmed lid (for holding coals) that she uses in the oven and on the stove. work real well. most sundays we have a roast, with taters and carrots, cooked in a dutch oven. and some homemade bread, from a dutch over. mmm-mmm good. ya don't see em very often, but sometimes you can find cast iron that has a copper plated bottom, on the outside. they heat up a lot more evenly, especially when using em over coals. dang, you guys are makin' me hungry. i need some sour dough biscuits with quail and quail gravy in a bad way now........