Buying new Bow

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muleycrazy1

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I am thinking of up grading to a new bow. The four I am looking at are the Blackmax2, swithback, swithcback xt and the Drenalin. Which one do you guys out there recomend and why. It would be strickly for hunting. Any advise would be extremely helpful.
 
They'll all do the job just fine. I also wouldn't just limit yourself to those models. Shoot each one personally and decide what feels best to YOU. That is the only way to buy a bow.

http://www.wildernessathlete.org/ because the most important piece of equipment you own is YOU!
 
I shoot a Mathews Switchback and I love it! Going from a lower end PSE to the Mathews was amazing! I think it is the same with optics....you get what you pay for and you should spend as much as you can afford....don't skimp.


Steve
 
Depends on what you want out of a hunting bow. I would suggest
shooting some of the top of the line bows from several different
companies such as hoyt, pse, bowtech, and mathews, see which one
best fits your needs, speed, weight, smoothness, grip,
forgiveness. Pick the one that you like best, everyone makes a
pretty darn good bow now.
 
Blackmax2 is an old bow short brace height tricky to shoot.
Switchback is a good bow. Cant say any thing bad about it.
Switchback xt is a short bow for long draw archers. It is slow

My pick would be for the Drenalin it is short, light, fast, and accurate it would make a heck of a hunting bow.
 
Out of the bows you listed, I would choose the Drenalin. It is a very light hunting bow that will really pay off when fully rigged out with accessories. No vibration and a smooth draw as well.
I shoot a Hoyt Vulcan and I really like it as well.
 
Why only those bows? I think you are really limiting yourself only shooting mathews lineup. They are good bows, but you might be suprised after you shoot a few of the other brands. I know my buddy was blown away after he shot my bow. He was in the same mind set as you. Mathews mathews mathews. His eyses have been opened up. This experience don't mean that another bow will feel better to YOU, but it might.
 
>Why only those bows? I
>think you are really limiting
>yourself only shooting mathews lineup.
> They are good bows,
>but you might be suprised
>after you shoot a few
>of the other brands.
>I know my buddy was
>blown away after he shot
>my bow. He was
>in the same mind set
>as you. Mathews mathews
>mathews. His eyses have
>been opened up. This
>experience don't mean that another
>bow will feel better to
>YOU, but it might.

That is blasphemy! Leave the boy alone, he knows what he wants. (Get the Drenalin)
 
Interesting test on the Drenalin vs. X Force. I personally shoot Bowtech, but PSE sure is making a fine bow:


Cheers,

Weatherby
 
The video says it all.

X-Force Owner and breakin hearts and 12 spots @ 348 FPS!


Timberline
 
Another bow not even mentioned here...


The Bowtech lineup for 2008. The 82nd Airborne is a bow that equals the speed of 348 fps. Of the PSE X Force. Just something to consider, and be aware of, I personally shoot a Bowtech, and know that they do not produce lemons at the Bowtech factory.


Check it out before you buy another, as I am sure that they are all equivalent in price tag, it comes down to the nitty gritty details.
Scott
 
"and know that they do not produce lemons at the Bowtech factory."

Bro, can you say for a fact that Bowtech has never had a manufacturing defect??? Come on. PSE has really cleaned up thier act and I haven't heard of ANY problems in the last 5 years.

Donnie
 
> I personally
>shoot a Bowtech, and know
>that they do not produce
>lemons at the Bowtech factory.

> Scott
>


How many limb defects have they had in teh past three years alone? There is a reason they are referred to as Blowtec!
I owned a Tribute and had nothing but trouble, sold it after six months. Thank goodness I never had a limb problem though!
 
Having been in the archery world for many years I can honestly tell you EVERY major manufacturer has had some type of problem with one of their bows at some point. Just the way it is when mass production occurs.

My advice would be shoot several makes/models and choose the one that feels good to YOU. Almost every major manufacturer makes a quality bow somewhere in their line-up. One other word of advice.....don't get too hung up on the "speed" craze.....it's not as crucial as some may think.

BOHNTR )))---------->
 
I would also add that the most improtant things will be fit and comfort during the draw. If you need to give up some speed to get this, then do it.
In a lot of circumstances going for a speed bow just gets you a bow that is harder to shoot accurately.

I agree that every manufacturer has problems, but the last three years I have heard more about Bowtech limb problems than any other problems in the archery industry. That being said, I haven't heard of any major problems with the new center pivot design and the new limbs. Everyone I know of who has one, Guardian or Commander, is happy with it. (Right BOHNTR?)

I recently shot the Bowtech General and liked it, the draw felt better than the Guardian, no shock or vibration, and quiet but I am not a fan of short bows and it is 31" ATA.

Don't get hung up on price either, there are a lot of bows available for under $500 that will hang with the big boys and do everything you will ever need. Decide what you really want to spend, then go after the bow that you feel makes it a joy to shoot archery.
 
Ive owned a tribute for two years and this is my 3rd Bowtech bow
all three of my sons shoot Bowtech Tributes and we have not had any problems....I have been told not to leave the bow inside the truck in the heat... so I dont know if this would be the cause of the limb problems for people.
 
Elkhorn, interesting theory...
I think a lot of the problems with the limbs were superficial, the camo covering was splintering but it wasn't the actual limb coming apart in most situations.
I never noticed anything with mine, but I had bought it used and was tired of worrying about it, combine that with the fact that I couldn't get it to shoot for me. Went back to Hoyt and haven't found something better for me yet, but I am always looking!
 
I've shot thousands of shots through my bowtech without any problems. Actually don't know anyone that has had trouble with a newer binary model. I think a lot of people read what happens on the internet so much they actually mold that into their own lives like it really happened to someone they know. You didn't see it. It didn't happen.

I'm suprised you couldn't get that tribute to shoot. Not sure of your archery background, but I'd think with the right adjustments it should shoot. At least your happy now.
 
the only thing that video shows is how important shaft and tip selection are.
 
I'm fairly confident that the same arrow/broadhead setup was used for both the Drenalin and the X-Force. Otherwise, why try to prove anything in a test? While shaft and tip selection are extremely important, it appears as if Mathews has fallen short from an arrow velocity perspective, with the Drenalin, thus creating less kinetic energy. But then again, Bowtech, Hoyt, and others may also be hard pressed to compete with the PSE, unless you're shooting a Black Knight or Pro-40. I'm personally sticking with Bowtech. I've owned 7-8 different Bowtech's, and have never had any issues, with any of them. Having said that, the PSE is sure intrigueing!

Cheers,

Weatherby
 
>
>I'm suprised you couldn't get that
>tribute to shoot. Not
>sure of your archery background,
>but I'd think with the
>right adjustments it should shoot.
> At least your happy
>now.


I have bowhunted for 17 years and started doing all my own work on my bows several years ago.
The bow was easy to tune and shot great at 20 yards, shooting spots was good but not great, where I suffered was when I started shooting past 40 yards. It was obvious to me that I was having form issues with the bow, but I spent some time on it and couldn't get it figured out. I took the factory grip off and went with a custom sideplates which really helped with a more consistent grip. Somehow when shooting that bow I had more problems with canting than any other bow and had to really pay atention to the bubble.
I know a lot of people who absolutely love that bow, I liked it enough to get one after spending days of going to the archery shop and shooting it. I knew it was problems I was having with the bow, but I finally grew tired of wondering what was going on and bought an 05 Ultratec (which I knew I could shoot) and traded the Tribute for the 07' Hoyt Vulcan and I shot it better than the Ultratec in most situations.
I don't think anyone was as surprised as me when I couldn't shoot well with the Tribby. I lost several hundred on that bow, even put new custom strings on it to make sure that wasn't even an issue.

Just goes to show that you may really like the feel of something, but it may not be the best bow for you!
 
Elite just released a new one, the GTO.

heres the post from archery talk:

Hey,, check these numbers out all you Kenetic Energy Monsters / Speed Freaks,,, THese are from a few arrows that were slung out of the new GTO;SPECS

ATA - 33 1/8"
BH - 7"
Mass Weight 3lbs 15.5oz
IBO @ 70# 30" 80% letoff - 340-350
Draw Lengths 26-30
Draw Weights 50-90#
MSRP - $799.00

70# 29" draw
350 gr= 337 fps
400 gr= 318 fps
450 gr= 301 fps
848 gr= 223 fps

70# 30" draw
350 gr= 352 fps
400 gr= 332 fps
450 gr= 313 fps
848 gr= 235 fps

New Elite GTO,,,


Might be time to upgrade from my Bowtech Extreme.
 
Wow. That's crazy about the feel of the tribute. I hear that more often with the mathews bows than any other. I personally shoot bowtech, but will say that I do like the grip on the hoyt bows better than any other that I've shot. So I can understand how they would shoot better for you. Glad you got something that shoots for ya.
 
I am a Mathews lover & have shot the Switchback for 3 years & at this point would not consider anything else. That being said; go to the proshop & shoot as many top end bows that you can. Chances are one will stand out above the rest.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-29-07 AT 01:22AM (MST)[p]i think that vid is kinda funny look how smooth and straight that arrow comes out of the drenalin and he hits that gell stuff dead center. then look at how the arrow comes off of that pse its all over the place and the arrow only passes through the upper left hand corner and the rest is un touched no wonder it came out the other side it barely hit the stuff

Just Living The Dream
 
I just shot a 101st airborne yesterday it felt really good. I shot it about 10 times; I would have liked to taken it home. It felt much better than my 06 alli or my 05 old glory. The best bow that I have shot to date was a Diamond marquise, it felt like it didn't even fire it was so smooth. I think I'm going to get a string suppressor and try on my old bows and see if it helps.
 
Bowtech has had limb problems. They produce lemons and several of them. Four of my friends shot bowtech and all of them had limb problems. They are now proud owners of Switchback, Drenalin and 2 Switchback XT which is what I shoot. The XT in my mind is the best of the bows you have mentioned. Slow is not the word for the XT I am getting better than 300 out of my setup, and that is not slow.
 
The first thing that came to mind when you said 4 buddies had limb problems. Was someone needs to learn how to operate a bow press. If bowtech had that much trouble they wouldn't be in business. I guess the other explanation would be that this happened over a long period of time, but I doubt it.

As for the switchback. A guy at our elk camp had one this year. I wasn't impressed. It felt like my old hoyt magnatec from 2001. Kinda twangy at the release. Very smooth draw. Probably one of the smoothest draws I've ever felt. Definetly not the best bow I've ever shot. Not even in the top 5. I won't say they are a bad bow from that one experience though. Lots of guys rave about them, but I usually attribute that to drinking the mathews "kool-aid". Your not cool unless you shoot one. I reckon his bow may of been not tuned to 100%, but even so it didn't feel good at the shot.
 
Guess I got into the koolaid because I really like my Switchback. The original Switchback is a great hunting bow. If it gets "twangy" it needs a little attention as most bows do I imagine. The Switchback needs to be kept into spec( ata , Bh and cam rotation) . In spec it is really smooth , really quiet and fast enough. Its also work horse dependable.It is a popular enough bow that Mathews just reintroduced it back into production again as the S2. That said the new bow that tempts me is the Bowtec Equalizer. Speed from a short draw low poundage bow is interesting to my old bones.
 
I am 6ft 3in and have never been comfortable with a 33ATA bow.Many fast short bows give up shootability for speed.I have shot competion and bow hunted for 30 plus years.I have guided for 20 years with bowhunters,most are not the expert shots they think they are under less than perfect conditions.All the speed in the world is usless you can hit the spot in a crunch.And most western hunts are just that crunch shoting.While most shorter dwar guys may be able to shot a shorter ATA bow most longer draw guys like my self do much better with a longer ATA bow.All companies make a very good bow and all of them have problems from time to time.Shoot every bow you can to find the one best for you,and try to shoot it in less than just a flat floor at 20 yards.I have never found a deer or elk in a shooting range?
 

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